Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Nemra]

Wasn't baptism the cause of Jesus's awakening?

To me, it's plausible that being out of breath under water might cause awakening.

However, people made a stupid ritual out of that, thinking if it worked for Jesus, it would work for themselves too.

There's a whole culture around Christian parents baptizing their children. People build identity around being baptized. For Christians, being baptized means sprinkling or pouring water over your face with some special water.

Edited 10 hours ago by Nemra

[Miguel1]

11 minutes ago, Davino said:

I think you're being too reductionistic here. The reason I was pointing this out is because you can make a career about Truth-seeking, you can create the ecosystem for that to happen.

Please go ahead and elaborate on your thoughts.

It is easy to say such things if one is not proactively trying to make it happen, and to be engaging with people (and their core drive: survival).

 

[Leo Gura]

@Davino If only you knew how much money I lost pursuing truth.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

Please go ahead and elaborate on your thoughts.

I mean actualized.org has been able to be financially self-sustaining while publishing the deepest truth seeking videos on the internet. The niche of Truth seekers is absurdly low, but in the global economy and with the internet, it is doable. I find it an irony to advocate for the impossibility of such a career path when Actualized.org is a living proof of it's feasibility. You can make your life purpose about Truth and monetize it. It's just not gonna be a prefabricated path.

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

It is easy to say such things if one is not proactively trying to make it happen, and to be engaging with people (and their core drive: survival).

Besides my regular job, I'm making decent money being a trip facilitator. People pay me hundreds of dollars precisely because nobody is offering them the possibility to contact truth and have an Awakening. 

We all know how difficult it is to monetize truth. And yet, for anyone who genuinely values truth, a person that can deliver it offers tremendous value and therefore is willing to pay for it. See the twist?

If you trip with me and I guide you towards an Awakening and become infinite, they all come back and say it was a bargain.

Edited 9 hours ago by Davino

[Davino]

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If only you knew how much money I lost pursuing truth.

Why you look at the loses?

I look at your gains!

You're able to be a fucking full time philosopher and mystic in your own payed house. This is like a dream for so many people; I have a 15 year plan just to reach a similar position adapted to my needs. Don't overlook how precious your position is, nor discourage others from making Truth-seeking their life purpose.

This was just a subtle point, I get the value of the blog post.

Edited 9 hours ago by Davino

[Leo Gura]

@Davino As I said, no one will pay you for seeking truth.

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura thanks for not charging money for your content - YouTube / blog.

It’s already hard enough for common folk to see the value in the teachings, just imagine if they had to pay for it 

It would be like paying money to get slapped across the face with a plank of wood- extremely inconvenient.

Money can’t buy a human’s desire for Truth

Edited 8 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[Human Mint]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

When you are sick you can not do it.

You will still get benefits.

But if you are not sick you should do it every day. It is an issue of priorities. You have the wrong priorities in life.

Could you make an episode on kriya yoga practice?

[Rafael Thundercat]

In the Jesus and 12 apostles picture all apostles have halos, only Judas with his bag of coins have no Halo. Looks like traitors cant be Awake.

[Alexop]

@Leo Gura you posted long ago on your blog about a life purpose opportunity. Something like philosophical counselling or some kind of life mentor/counselor. I don't find it anymore! 😭 

[Yimpa]

@Alexop It is right here:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/philosophical-counseling

[AerisVahnEphelia]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Davino If only you knew how much money I lost pursuing truth.

Money isn’t an accurate metric for anything. You’re showing a very strong American bias.

Honestly, one of the funniest things about Americans is how obsessed their mindset is with money. You measure almost everything through it.

I guess Europeans have it too good.

Money feels kind of gross here. Not that we don’t care about it, but it genuinely feels taboo, and people don’t center their identity around it. We do care, but when someone asks what success is, it’s usually about love, mastery, or a simple question: are you happy?

There are almost zero social metrics for money. Money exists only as a tool to support happiness.

Sure, you might lose money, but the real question is: how much joy and love did you miss by pursuing “truth” or status instead?

The answer is usually none. In fact, you avoided a massive amount of suffering and pointless stress. Many people would gladly pay one million dollars a year if it guaranteed peace of mind.

So how valuable are mental health and sovereignty? Obviously, it’s a net gain and an enormous profit, maybe a billion-dollar profit. True love or peace of mind do not even seem to be buyable for Elon Musk.

I literally consider my presence around people to be worth up to $1,000,000 a month.

If I talk to you, you’re getting $100 per second of value just by absorbing my presence and vibe and receiving my attention. You’re effectively consulting with an enlightened master whose intelligence is in the top 0.0000000001%.

And the worst part is that most people read me for free. You're so lucky.

Most people aren't highly cognitively minded enough to even grasp my value.

All selling is bullshit. Nothing has intrinsic value. You can grasp money or attract love purely through vibe.

All meaning is relative, and if you’re a master of meaning, you’re a master of everything.

I could walk into a party, seduce the highest earner, get backstage access, land a contract, sleep with his wife, and end up invited to his pool party while being a literal street wanderer. This is what it means to be God, not some metaphysical Dunning-Kruger, cuck Advaita Vedanta self delusion.

Nothing stops me from doing anything or getting anything. Money does not exist at all. But you will never grasp what I’ve grasped, because a lifetime of understanding reality cannot be downloaded into your mind. This is also why nothing can be sold.

No psychedelic and no teaching can enlighten you into awakening to God. You might just need to will it hard enough and take it seriously.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Terell Kirby]

5 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Money exists only as a tool to support happiness.

Money exists as a tool for survival.

Humans are survival zombies so money (or any other form of currency) holds tremendous value for humans across multiple cultures.

Why do you even want to be happy in the first place? Our notions of happiness are culturally programmed for the most part (ie. avoidance of pain, pursuit of pleasure).

Society is already starting to see the limits of culturally programmed definitions of happiness.

Edited 5 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[Davino]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

As I said, no one will pay you for seeking truth.

Every serious product, service or innovation, necessitates a gear of truth seeking, whether it is niche or more holistic. That work is then included in the price and payed.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

23 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Money exists as a tool for survival.

Humans are survival zombies so money (or any other form of currency) holds tremendous value for humans across multiple cultures.

Why do you even want to be happy in the first place? Our notions of happiness are culturally programmed for the most part (ie. avoidance of pain, pursuit of pleasure).

Society is already starting to see the limits of culturally programmed definitions of happiness.

Survival do not exist, you don't need to survive.

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Survival do not exist, you don't need to survive.

Lol 

[Alexop]

@Yimpa 🙏

[Miguel1]

When I first got into Leo’s content, there’s no way I would have paid money for him to completely shatter all my survival fantasies.

Keep in mind that being a trip faciliator isn’t necessarily faciliating hard core truth-seeking.

You can awaken to God but remain a pervert. Just look at our spiritual teachers, and a certain podcaster! 

[Miguel1]

31 minutes ago, Davino said:

Every serious product, service or innovation, necessitates a gear of truth seeking, whether it is niche or more holistic. That work is then included in the price and payed.

You are talking of a ”more conscious business”, not ripping yourself off of all fantasies and illusions (that directly affects your survival).

There’s levels to this game. Obviously.

Edited 4 hours ago by Miguel1

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

When I first got into Leo’s content, there’s no way I would have paid money for him to completely shatter all my survival fantasies.

+1

what “rational” human would? These teachings are liable to get the teacher killed in certain places. Did Jesus make a career off of spreading Truth? Not even close, they crucified him instead.

This is the reality of human survival.