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[Rafael Thundercat]

Thanks Leo for this one. The ideia of Junk History and its consequences is one among many insigths i got from this video.

So, if before internet we have so much junk History, imagine now After Internet and X and AI ? The Enshitification will make Doing Deep History a hard work for future Historians.

[Miguel1]

Objective vs biased mind / Beautiful vs ugly mind:

You can literally see in the eyes and behaviour of people in this situation. Open-minded, objective people move gracefully, they have calm and love in their eyes.

Biased people are full of knee-jeek reactions, defenses and triggers. The more biased, the worst this is.

[Leo Gura]

On 12/23/2025 at 0:01 PM, How to be wise said:

Look at how many gays (including Douglas Murray) and lesbians (including Bari Weiss) are cheering on Israel’s genocide and barbarism.

Those two are more Orange than Green.

Gays are not automatically Green. Many Orange and Blue gays around.

Those two are both conservatives and anti-wokes. They are the Europeans who happily genocided the Natives.

Edited December 25, 2025 by Leo Gura

[Xonas Pitfall]

How very biased of Leo, saying a biased mind is uglier than a beautiful one… tsk, tsk, tsk! 😌😌😌

[Xonas Pitfall]

Quote

You can burn all the books in the world but you cannot burn fire itself.

 

Edited December 25, 2025 by Xonas Pitfall

[Adrian colby]

Blog #334

this has been a sentiment of mine for a while.

in the argument of sex v gender that endlessly echoes about the net at the moment, I’ve not always responded with explanations of dimorphism but as someone who is both trans with a DSD and gone through awakenings, the first being a natural god realisation, I wanted to get my bias out of the way to find out exactly what my condition was or was doing. 
 
people claiming male and female are exclusive don’t see the unity and it is a huge stick in the spiritual and medicine communities ( not spiritual at all but somewhere in the middle of a transrational fallacy). it really gets in the way of awakening or at least the integration and understanding of what was deconstructed to see what lies beneath. They can’t get their heads around the sex thing ( probably from the agenda conspiracy they got indoctrinated with or cognitive dissonance.)
 

the penis and clitoris are the same organ ( the genital tubicle). It changes form depending on genetic triggers, hormone profiles, enzymes, timing etc. it is named and mistaken as two exclusive objects at birth when it is really one. We know it is one because of intersex cases stopping development somewhere along the spectrum between the two forms pointing to the form morphing.

testicles and ovaries

prostate and skenes gland

chest and breast

Masculinised and feminised bone structure

m & f muscle mass, protein and fat distrobution

m&f neuroendocrine pathway develooment

( you notice how the later 3 don’t have specific names as they become more complex and unseable)

each one of these are mistaken as exclusively different when they are all the same organ and the same body. Sometimes the development means one form of an organ is masculinised and another organ is feminised showing up two sex categories in the same body. Combining all the components of the body creates a mosaic or polymorphic organism… all with the potential of the other forms and capability to change to the other forms ( to a limited extent in some cases) but they are all one. 
 

like play dough smooshed into a shape and a photo taken then smooshed to another shape and a photo taken. You get two photos of seemingly different forms that by appearance would be exclusive and named as two independent and seperate entities and yet it is all the same piece of play dough.

 

the level of diversity that you could get out of this one form capable of dimorphism or even polymorphism is so humanly incomprehensible, while you are dealing with a finite range, to human comprehension it is infinite. 
 

the diversity of humanity is infinity expressing itself, not a deterioration of society. Those that embrace diversity and understand the limits or illusory nature of constructs have not become delusional but rather have expanded the capacity of their minds to hold more awareness of infinite complexity. 

Philosophically seeing identity collapse, I’ve seen both male and female within me collapse into one and that it is a unity.

the body is one with multiple bi-potential components that together can express an infinity of unique variations ( mosaics or polymorphisms)

and I know this is true because the entire universe works the same way. 
 

each part is the other and can become the other as it’s always moving and changing

 

we categorise to make things manageable. To crush infinity down into manageable packages of information. The minds attempt at making distinctions and solidifying infinity into an object that is stiff and immutable so we can navigate and relate to everything which is good but daft because we mistake the difference of appearance as different things when they are actually the same thing fundamentally. 
 

it was through the dissolution of my identity that I understood my condition and had a direct experience with ‘unity’ and so I can now see it everywhere. 
 

 

[Anton Rogachevski]

@Leo Gura Leo, what do you mean by burning "human" ideas, there's no such thing, they are all God's ideas. Unconscious parts of God trying to understand itself. You want to force God to wake up by blunt force, but you can't make a flower grow by pulling it upwards.

[Yimpa]

On 12/23/2025 at 5:40 AM, UnbornTao said:

That's the joke 

“It’s not about me. It’s about the real world.”

 

[Leo Gura]

@Yimpa Thanks for sharing that clip.

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

@Leo Gura Leo, what do you mean by burning "human" ideas, there's no such thing, they are all God's ideas.

There is no God for you until you burn down human ideas.

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

@Yimpa Thanks for sharing that clip.

[Davino]

4 hours ago, Yimpa said:

“It’s not about me. It’s about the real world.”

 

They don't understand God's Love and God's goodness. The avoidance of pain and suffering is a human bias. Reality is equally open to everything. Reality is literally everything. That is the highest love, to welcome in your heart equally Jesus than Hitler, that is the Love of pure consciousness. Consciousness is aware of everything and is everything. Imagine a love so infinite it does not discriminate, that is Universal Love. This is the ever-present beingness, everywhere, every time, every state.

[Anton Rogachevski]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There is no God for you until you burn down human ideas.

There can't be such a state as "No God" they are all God's states, even if he's not conscious of it right now. 

[Wilhelm44]

15 hours ago, Yimpa said:

“It’s not about me. It’s about the real world.”

 

Sure, from our thin slice of perception it appears that way. But from the highest big picture perspective, it can only be Goodness. The fires in nature appear to be tragic in the moment, and it is, but it always makes way for new growth and beauty. Our vision simply isn't long term enough. 

If we lived in a world where everything stayed perfectly in it's lane, and not an ant was ever harmed, it would not be Goodness. It would be Robotic.

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Yimpa Thanks for sharing that clip.

Are you agreeing with that clip in some way ?

[r0ckyreed]

@Wilhelm44 No. Read his recent blog post on the topic.

@Leo Gura On your quote about consciousness does not age and the color red exists forever: how do you explain that some people cannot see colors or may become blind? I can’t help but anticipate a materialist to come up with objections like this. Our senses change over time and Consciousness doesn’t “age” but I would argue that it can mature since it is capable of growth and change.

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

how do you explain that some people cannot see colors or may become blind?

That is irrelevant.

Red is just one quality out of infinite. You can replace red with any other quality and the quality does not age.

No quality ages.

All experiences of reality are made of qualities.

It doesn't matter that your senses change over time. Red is always red. But you may not have the ability to experience it. Just as you don't experience most of the possible qualities at all times.

Salty is still salty even if you aren't experiencing salty right now.

The contents of your mind can mature, sure. That is not the aging of qualities.

Even if you are blind, red is still red, just as cold is still cold even if you aren't cold right now.

Edited December 27, 2025 by Leo Gura

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

@Wilhelm44 No. Read his recent blog post on the topic.

@Leo Gura 

Aha, thank you.

Yes, the real tragedy for anyone, including Dr Tyson, is being stuck in a position of thinking that we know.

I recently came across the work of Dr Ellen Langer.

One of the practices is to make it a daily habit of noticing something new about someone or something that you think you know.

This is actually a practice that gives one more energy.

She also did an interesting experiment where she put 8 old men in a cabin for a couple of months, where they lived as if 

it was 30 years ago, ie they watched tv from that time, read newspapers from that time, and speaking about those past events in the present tense. The results were astounding, vision/hearing improved, they lived longer than the other controlled group etc.

Interesting tip: Don't tell urself you are getting older, simply say you are changing.

Very simple ideas, but very powerful, here's her Ted talk.

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by Wilhelm44

[AION]

Consciousness and matter are one though. So if matter (the body) ages, it has an effect on the consciousness of that person. It is wrong to make a distinction between matter and consciousness. They are literally the same thing. The consciousness of a person can age, but it will die too through physical or/and spiritual death (consciousness de-identification) and following rebirth of the consciousness.

 

Edited December 27, 2025 by AION

[r0ckyreed]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That is irrelevant.

Red is just one quality out of infinite. You can replace red with any other quality and the quality does not age.

No quality ages.

All experiences of reality are made of qualities.

It doesn't matter that your senses change over time. Red is always red. But you may not have the ability to experience it. Just as you don't experience most of the possible qualities at all times.

Salty is still salty even if you aren't experiencing salty right now.

The contents of your mind can mature, sure. That is not the aging of qualities.

Even if you are blind, red is still red, just as cold is still cold even if you aren't cold right now.

Ah, very nice insight. It reminds me of a book I read from your booklist where a disciple realizes that Self cannot die and is not the body, prana, or mind because those are all changing. Pure Consciousness is Unchanging which is another way of saying it cannot die, as it is that which witnesses and imagines everything in existence. Consciousness couldn’t be changing because then it couldn’t witness change because it would be changing with everything else. 

I realized on a trip that death and birth, dreaming and waking is something Consciousness is constructing. That which is constructed will never be “infinite enough” to overtake the Infinite. There is nothing outside of Infinity to kill it and Infinity would have nowhere to go since it is already all that is. 

Brilliant Quote!