Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Davino]

I've just had an obvious insight. This war is the classic: Bring X to its former Glory.

Make America great again... And many others.

This war at the core is fueled by the most common conservative wet dream.

[Nemra]

32 minutes ago, Davino said:

This war is the classic: Bring X to its former Glory.

It's quite disheartening, as people are easily manipulated by that. Those types of people think that a specific land is literally imprinted in their DNA.

I hear till this day a lot of people loving a mountain that doesn't belong to them, which at a certain period it did, and have been indoctrinated that it literally belongs to them.

[Leo Gura]

Make America Great Again

Make Russia Great Agian

Make China Great Again

Make India Great Again

Make Persia Great Again

Make Islam Great Again

Make Men Great Again

Make Isrealites Great Again

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[Heaven]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

They do and have.

Hardcore Zionists believe part of southern Lebanon belongs to Israel. Their plan is to ethnically cleanse that region and eventually take it over. This has always been their plan from the 1940s. They also plan to take parts of Jordan.

Watch the documentaries I posted on my blog and you will see their real plans.

Their “real plans” sounds like a conspiracy/cherry picking from some extremist which every country has.

If Israel wanted to occupy Jordan/Lebanon you would see it happen a long time ago. 
 

In every single war with Lebanon, Israel could occupy those territories and gave it up. 
 

The story that if Israel will give up some land and all Muslims in the world would suddenly calm down is a lie and the risk is too high to try it.

The West supports Israel and if you disagree with Israel you basically disagree with democracy. You are all welcome to try living in Iran/Russia for some time to taste your own medicine.

Criticizing is healthy but for almost a year to only highlight the bad is just pitiful. 

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[Leo Gura]

This is the land they regard as given to them by God:

Do you really think they are going to surrender land given to them by God? Just because some UN guy told them to?

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[Leo Gura]

39 minutes ago, Heaven said:

Their “real plans” sounds like a conspiracy

It's just part of the historical record. And some of them admit it openly today.

They have a slow and patient expansion strategy. Grow slowly and grab whenever an opportunity arises. They will grab whatever the world lets them get away with.

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if you disagree with Israel you basically disagree with democracy.

Hogwash.

Democracy is not a license to abuse others.

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[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, I think those people can't handle development, so they rather go back to what they have been or think their elders were used to as a quick fix.

But I don't understand how they don't get that making great again could always be said. How could they not realize that their elders could have said the same thing.

[Raze]

11 minutes ago, Heaven said:

if you disagree with Israel basically disagree with democracy.

Israel keeps millions of Palestinians occupied who have no vote for the government that controls them, it isn’t disagreeing with democracy to disagree with Israel’s lack of democracy. 

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Nemra said:

But I don't understand how they don't get that making great again could always be said. How could they not realize that their elders could have said the same thing.

Because they live with a fantasy of the past. These fantasies define who they are so they defend them irrationally.

[aurum]

There are zionists who even apparently believe in Greater Israel.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, aurum said:

There are zionists who even apparently believe in Greater Israel.

Haha! That's epic levels of delusion.

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[Nemra]

Maybe in the future they would take other places where Jews live.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Maybe in the future they would take other places where Jews live.

They don't need nor want that. They want their Biblical fantasy land.

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They don't need nor want that. They want their Biblical fantasy land.

So much for the Middle East being more civilized and developed than ever before.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So much for the Middle East being more civilized and developed than ever before.

The Middle East is still rapidly developing. There's plenty of unreported progress. The news just focuses on the drama.

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[Hardkill]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

The Middle East is still rapidly developing. There's plenty of unreported progress. The news just focuses on the drama.

Where else besides Saudi Arabia and the UAE has been there any real progress in the Middle East?

Israel is going backwards in its development. 

The other countries in the region seem to be stuck in primitive stages.

[Nemra]

23 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So much for the Middle East being more civilized and developed than ever before.

You would be amazed at how quickly modern construction is happening in Egypt, especially in or near Cairo. The workers are like ants there.

But the downside is that everything costs double or more. You can't easily buy sugar for whatever reason. Tourists aren't that welcomed there right now.

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[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Where else besides Saudi Arabia and the UAE has been there any real progress in the Middle East?

Israel is going backwards in its development. 

The other countries in the region seem to be stuck in primitive stages.

All the civil infrastructure is growing. The technology is growing. Economic development is growing. Culture is slowly advancing up the Spiral. Education. Healthcare. Housing. Oil. Tourism. Trade. Tech jobs.

This is what really matters, not the petty wars nor terrorism.

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[PurpleTree]

48 minutes ago, aurum said:

There are zionists who even apparently believe in Greater Israel.

That’s fire though.

But why wouldn’t they want Baghdad, Alexandria and Cairo? The lines are very close but don’t include them.

[Lyubov]

the Israel delusion is wild. And to think I actually was taught this was true. It’s so blatantly colonialism and the wild thing is this belief system breaks the moment you tinker with any of their constants. Switch out any country for any ethnic group. It doesn’t make any sense.