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For me I can only speak for myself. Because I barely stand to be here as it is I got some bad news for ya: ego death will not actually free up your consciousness to reach the highest levels. Ego isn't the only issue here, and far from the most important factor. Your human life places the most severe limits on Consciousness. Even if you removed 100% of the ego, as a human your consciousness will still be very low. Egoless humans are not that conscious. The point of physical death is that it eliminates the restrictions of being human. You can't be as conscious as an alien when you're stuck in a human meat suit.

@Leo Gura Can you elaborate on the entire universe being a molecule within an alien God-mind? Do you mean a literal entity (since you mention it being on a higher dimention), or just God itself? I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at and I don't want to carry around the wrong idea in my mind. This reminds me of something I heard Matt Kahn said a while back about the "History of Consciousness": (starts around 9:20) Though obviously I haven't verified this "story" and it is one way of looking at it from potential other ways. All this alien talk also gave me another "alien God" awakening today while driving.. I felt like some "alien God" visiting this planet and a completely foreign entity, though the feeling of "Egyptian" also came. Words don't do it justice though the amount of Godliness that was there.

I like the insights about alien love. That makes a lot of sense to me. There is so many accounts of alien consciousness contacting humans in channelled states and it's so clear that they're way more advanced in so many degrees and dimensions. I'm going for alien love on my next trip.

@Bob Seeker you can transform your brain too with a lot of 5 meo and malt trips. He might be sensitive but I know two people who are even more sensitive to psychedelics than him so this Sensitivity is not very special, but this alien mind thing is indeed

A Cry Into the Void I sense that RADICALLY different ways of being / comprehension / feeling, etc. are possible. Completely different from all this human stuff. Absolutely new “worlds”, “creatures”, “feelings” – Gosh, even these concepts are not necessarily absolute. NO CONCEPTS ARE! There doesn’t have to be suffering, pleasure, humans, planets, fear, idea of death, mind, thought, feeling, pointers such as God, Truth, Infinity, Love, Beauty. All of this is what’s HERE, but it wouldn’t have to be the case in an utterly new experience. And there must be an INFINITY of such new experiences! Last week I set an intent to really go beyond all concepts and reach PURE BEING. I wanted to BE. But I just couldn’t overcome my limited way of perceiving the world and the awakening was framed in a human way. Words like “Dream”, “Fantasy”, “God”, “nothing”, “Being”. ALL OF THIS IS CONCEPTS! That which is being “pointed to” (foolishly) has nothing in common with any of these words and ways of understanding. I am dissatisfied with all human teachings. Even Leo’s! Let’s take this pointer for example: https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-004 This is based in concepts of morphing, a flamingo, sitting, a world, caring, being mad. And the cherry on top is the pointer “God”. It’s all human understanding. Another example: https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-011 This is based in concepts like X not being Y, pointer “God”, realization, dream, “all” = everything, carefulness… do You see what I mean? I don’t blame Leo for this of course. I find Leo to be a level above all other teachers anyway. I don’t blame the humans. It’s just that I feel slightly dissatisfied with everything… I cannot formulate a single thought that isn’t of my constrained human comprehension. I can’t do it. I can’t fucking go beyond my programming… but I want to. I want to be SENTIENT! I WANT TO AWAKEN!!!!! (Still concepts…) I wish to experience radically new ways of experiencing, feeling, understanding… Not that there’s anything wrong with this experience, but I feel like there’s more I could go for. I sense that it CAN be done… and if it can, then why not do it? I’d want that. I feel sad. It’s only a hunch I have, I am not sure about all this… I just feel like there’s more, I feel like I could be more. I still have stuff to do here but right now I look at it and it’s boring. I don’t feel like this all the time of course, in fact this is the first time this is happening. I wanted to note it because I find some meaning in it… It’s a feeling that I sense might accompany me more in the future and drive me forwards. Is this not accepting what IS? Am I a fool for wanting this or is this Intuition speaking? I don’t know. I feel like it’s Intuition, but how can I be bored of all this so soon…? I haven’t yet had as deep awakenings as I could with this human comprehension and I’m racing to go beyond it already? I don’t know… Why am I not appreciating this beauty around me? Maybe I’m stupid. Or maybe, just maybe this intuition is pointing me to some wonderful, shocking and sanity-shattering possibility that is really what I’ve been working towards with all I’ve done so far? Maybe. I don’t know. Guess I have to be patient for now… I’ll see how life unfolds. This is what I wrote yesterday at 2 am. It was sincere. I don't feel this way right now but yeah... I really feel like there is so much more here for "me". I want to explore IT. I'm thinking that I might really make use of Leo's new course on Alien God. It seems like this is what I'm kind of looking for? Although I think I still have a reaaaally long way with "ordinary" awakening.

I don't see anything alien about it. Eliminating all defilements of the ego and experiencing pure primordial womb of existence minus all influence whatsoever is classic buddhism 101.

Whats funny is what he calls alien consciousness is formless consciousness. It is not human consciousness. It is consciousness minus the human. So from that perspective, sure, it's alien.

How far do you think it is possible to understand? Will that alien be a molecule of another alien and so on to infinity, or is there a limit?

You don't know what I know. Consider the possibility that I have been more conscious than any Buddhist you know. Of course I'm not gonna prove it to you. No. It's hard to even access on psychedelics. Requires some very serious tripping. Accessing alien consciousness is something wild. People have no idea it is even possible.

Can you access alien intelligence in sober states? Atleast in some parts ?

There is at least an order of magnitude difference between human Awakening and alien Awakening. It's like the difference between a mouse and human in order of understanding and intelligence. What does a mouse understand about reality? Well, likewise the human. An advanced alien intelligence is much closer to God than a human. A human hardly understands anything about God or Consciousness. I don't even take human intelligence seriously at this point. The best human intelligence is trash. It's mouse-level understanding. At this point I am only interested in trans-human intelligence and consciousness. I don't care what humans think, want, or do. It's all nonsense, whether it is material or spiritual in nature. I have recently been able to access trans-human levels of Consciousness which I was in before I was born as a human. That's the kind of Consciousness I'm interested in. It's 10x to 100x more conscious than the most conscious humans. It's conscious in dimensions which humans can't even imagine.

That is interesting, I dunno what to make out of it we are fundamentally doing the same as humans, even if it looks very backwards, this is what many developed humans strive for. Although the insights is very interesting. I've seen different types of explanations, so I am presonally unsure if this is archetypal phenomenon, as barely any "buddhist" would teach it and I only had a tiny experience of it on NN-DMT as it was to intense for me, it legit invited me which was to much and I did not feel like I had enough room to let go and join, and I've seen mostly the DMT stuff about it with similar kinds of reports mostly about energy and matter, not intelligence. Like "jesters" playing with balls of energy to generate matter and energy stuff like this. Also this "alien" type energy, it was like someone legit digitized my brain with a chip of aritfical intelligence stemming from an DMT alien. It was way to intense and I am super-sensetive, I just tried the new inhale technique and whoop. Like how entities generate energy and dark matter or some other type of energy and other types of stuff which are 4-5Dish apparently, I am not a physicsist, so I dunno how that dimension works in terms of it's properties for a mechanistic understanding. What is the difference of a buddhist loving-kindness methaphysical love experience and metaphysial love? Is it also not a tool & principle that generates the same outcome, even if it is not as effective as MDMA for example as well as even falling in love with a single human, that let's you love all humans more deeply. Even if that is selective. What is metaphysical and what are the qualties of it? Is the question to reductionistic? We'd move into metaphysical love no? And not reduce it to smth. It's more like union and oneness?

@Leo Gura you keep mentioning alien, but what’s the difference between alien and human in absolute truth? How is alien any closer to God than human. Both are forms in relative truth.

I'm not really interested in emptiness. Of course it's a facet, but it's so obvious and rudimentary it's uninteresting to me. I'm more interested in, for example, realizing that your entire life is just a dream within God's Mind. And then understanding what this God's Mind is up to. Have you even considered what the movement of Consciousness is for? Why are you dreaming? Why are you human? For what purpose? For example, I've become conscious that our entire universe is just a molecule within an alien God-Mind that exists on a higher dimension, which is using all the conscious experience of the universe to fuel it's own intelligence process, in order to understand itself deeper and accessing ever higher categories of metaphysical Love. No Buddhist has a clue about such things. What no Buddhist understands is that Consciousness is engaged in a process of ever-deeper self-understanding and Intelligence. The movement of the whole universe is there to raise the universe's intelligence of itself, in order to achieve Omniscience. There are dimensions of Consciousness so advanced and so alien that no human can even begin to imagine it. None of these things are understood by Buddhists or nondualists. Does your Buddhist understand what alien consciousness is? No! He has no clue. Does your Buddhist understand what Love is? No! Not even a little. At best he has some crap human idea of Love. That's not any kind of proper understanding of what LOVE is metaphysically.

Hehe.... It's way more than pure practice. It is an entire worldview and not only that, it will actually prevent you from reaching the highest levels of Consciousness. You will not reach God-Consciousness via any kind of reductive system like Shinzen's. Consciousness is non-reducible. You cannot understand God by breaking your field of experience down into pieces and chunks as Shinzen attempts to do. This is the mistake of materialism all over again in the guise of Buddha's authority. Judge for yourself, but what I'm saying is that cessation has nothing to do with Awakening. Have as many cessations as you want, in the end you will still not understand God. Cessation != understanding. And nothing beats understanding. You should not trust any human. Seek the truth independently for yourself. Consider all these humans are just tricksters testing you with traps and games. Your job is to outwit them all, not to subscribe to any one. As soon as you stop thinking independently, you fail. - - - - I am working on a course that will once and for all explain how to reach God Consciousness and completely deconstruct Buddhism, Vedanta, nonduality, and absolutely all human spiritual teachings. Until you reach Alien God Consciousness, Insanity, and Infinite Kinds of Love, including Alien Love. And ultimately Omniscience.

is cholesterol bad or is systemic inflammation the issue... an alien studying car crashes from 30,000 feet might conclude that ambulances cause car crashes because they are usually found at the site Also carbs seem to be necessary.

@Kksd74628 I do see the points, it's just that I have to lower myself down, from my alien levels of development, to talk to you and @Juan in a simplified manner. No, qualitatively speaking, Tik Tok and meditation are mostly different fundamentally. With meditation, you are actively intent on 'letting go' of thoughts, 'observing' thoughts, 'mindfulness with labelling' or other mindfulness types of meditations, transcendental meditation, and other meditation techniques that are mainstream friendly or hardcore fringe. Most mediation requires the participants to actually be active in them and be both focused and intentional, meanwhile with Tik Tok usage it's mostly designed to encourage passivity and brain rot, makes you think less and develop cognitive retardations, immoral beliefs and inappropriate behaviors that because of curating and higher volume is made normal, higher increases of neurosis and Narcissism due to auto image filters that make you more 'handsome' or more 'beautiful' or have 'lighter skin colour', proliferate immature behaviors and opinions, create and maintain ideological echo chambers and maintain Incels and doomer mentalities, limit life experiences and life exposures like travelling and interacting with people face to face. I also find it asymmetrical to compare mediation, a sub set of spiritual development, to Tik Tok, a subset of technological development gone wrong. Improper comparison, but also disingenuous. As much as I am moderate and centrist on some issues, for this specific one I'm lopsided against Tik Tok and supportive of regulations that restrict Tik Tok. I refuse to be a passive culprit that encourages Tik Tok to ruin the youth's brains to the point of hyper ADD/ADHD and foolishness, and I can't remain neutral and agnostic to the obvious harms it has for mental health, so, Tik Tok either must be restricted more, or, banned.

@Inliytened1 I'm not sure. Perhaps it's not possible to achieve freedom while being in a physical form. The joy and freedom I have experienced during my OBE's is so incredible. Coming back to the this dense reality was always very challenging. Why would I choose this when there are so many other options? I'm not sure. I haven't discovered the answer yet. It reminds me of one of Leo's recent posts where he became an alien mouse. He said nothing would give him more joy then to remain in the state of the that alien mouse, but here is is back being very limited human Leo with all his challenges? Why? Who is doing the choosing?

I think it's co-created. But by different kinds of minds. Which is why you hear about "alien Gods". You can be that "alien God" too one day. Yes death is most likely fully your own will (that you may not be conscious of).

These octopuses are completely bizarre and alien looking to me, and they are also quite intelligent. Blows my mind

@puporing Everything is imaginary, I get this. But there are solid hallucinations like the life I am experiencing now and there is just some silly hallucinations like if you get a fever and start seeing things. So how to know if there is really an entity that has a POV and has consciousness or it is just some substance induced hallucinations . I pressured @Leo Gura that day (when he said he experienced being an alien mouse) on this very point and he ended up saying that such things are complicated.

Kind of shocking how alien like earth can be at certain places.

Sounds like you're making this too complicated. The Matthew ego-self is different from Hitler's ego-self. Obviously. So just imagine what it would be like if you became Hitler's persona but inside your current body. Your body would be the same but you would not feel like "yourself" any more. But this goes even deeper. Imagine if you had the psyche of a lion but kept your current human body. I've actually done that. I have direct consciousness of what it's like to have the psyche of a predator animal. I will pounce on you and eat you like a cat on a bird. But it goes even deeper. I have direct consciousness of what it's like to be an alien intelligence.

@something_else Yeah, totally agree, grass is greener on the other side of the fence, when I'm on a fat green joint, writing, rapping, and drawing out my work, focused on my legacy and capturing that wind for me, meanwhile all you guys and gals ripping each other off, killing each other, chasing tails endlessly, makes me want to be ET or some alien. Happy to know when I'm gone, my legacies will be the ones that penetrate into your minds, picture peter pan's pike phase through your head, meanwhile you all too busy chasing bed heads and tails, too lost in the devil's details to make sense of you turning turtles, while I'm the Buddha, burning urges.

Ceremony time! So back in September, after the festival, me and bee signed up for a plant medicine ceremony/ retreat. I was very excited. It was supposed to take place at the end of October but I had been split from Bee so I let her take the first shot, and I would go later at the end of November. Then the shaman got sick and the retreat was postponed another month. But finally, I got it. I went to the retreat this weekend. Preparation: starting 1 month prior: -dieta friendly food, no processed food, plant-based, as clean as possible (soup and porridge with honey and berries for the last week) -no coffee, alcohol, drugs, supplements, stimulants etc. -no sexual contact, arousal, etc -at this point, I am doing kriya yoga, exercising 3/4 x/week / 5 miles and taking cold plunges for 3-6 minutes for the past 41 days -journaling and setting intentions since the new year; -water fasting for 96 hours prior to plant medicine ingestion. -intentions, smile and feel great! Ok, so I drive 4:45hrs(Friday afternoon traffic) up to the countryside to a place that, mmm wasn't really into the woods as I expected. There were neighbours on each side of the cottage. Nevermind. I am there earlier and as I already noticed with the hippies, they are all in the air, nothing is ready, one is still doing the food shopping and the other is welcoming me in a freezing house, showing me my sleeping room. *I have to pass through the host bedroom to get to mine, and it's freezing but nevermind, they just got here and the heating seems to be on, probably will heat up the place till I will go to sleep * And then I wait in the lounge till everyone arrived -3 women and another guy. I get a sense that my feet smell like crap, but how can it be, I showed when I left and I drove barefoot so it cannot be me - the whole fucking lounge smelled like shit, animal stink (cat probably), that made me fell that I want to get out of there quickly. So it's Friday night, and tonight we have a breathwork ceremony in a nice adjacent, recently build shed/cottage. It's cosy but heated up with electrical heaters (the one that as soon as you turn them off it gets cold) because they don't have enough wood, as they want to preserve wood for the medicine ceremony - wtf? *The girls and the guy are supposed to sleep in here, as I was the only one to pay for a separate room. In the end, the guy chooses to sleep in the lounge in the main house leaving the girls alone.* Nevermind, at least is warm here. So we do an official opening of the circle, introduce ourselves, and then we are doing the breath work - in and out through the nose - At this point, I am on 72 hours of fasting and I feel great, with no cravings or food desires, and buzzing with energy. During the breathwork, I feel lots of energy fields passing through me and releasing a lot of them although I felt that it finished too soon and there was still unreleased energy in my arms, wrists and hands. Awesome, so far so good. They have some food, I sat with them and just meditate while they had food then I went to sleep. I get into my room and the room is fucking freezing. I asked the other participant if there was a way to start the heater but he had no clue. * I forgot to mention that this is not the organisers' house - it's a house of a friend who does some yoga retreats and she travels a lot, and while travelling the organisers are looking after the house*. The organiser is not in the house and knowing that is not their house I don't get in trouble of turning up the heat - maybe they will turn it up when they come back into the house. So I go and set myself asleep in the house in a sleeping bag covered up by a duvet. Sleeping in a sleeping bag !!! Indoors!!!! Wtf? Why not sleep in a tent then? What's the difference? Anyway, I slept somehow well, and fuck it, I am here for the medicine not for hotel conditions. I can pass this one. The next morning I woke up and did some kriya and meditate for about 40 minutes. Then I got stuck inside the room as I had to pass through the master bedroom to get out for a wee or shower and the organisers kept snoozing their alarms for another 30-40 minutes. Then they had breakfast and we went for an hour or so of walking and talking with the guy who participate in the ceremony about some alien channelling stuff (great, lots of delusional talks and I could see that the guy is just avoiding facing himself- he was most of the time agitated and nit-picking stuff). We are back and supposed to have a heated sauna ready for us - supposed - it takes 3-4 hours of burning wood for that cabin to heat up and as it goes with the hippies, they are never ready. This starts to clash with the last meal before the ceremony as they want to eat nothing 3 hrs prior to ingestion of sacred medicine. Being my third time when I fast and the longest one, I was very very surprised that I don't feel hungry and that I have a clear mind and energy - (there was a scale in the bathroom and Friday I had 55kg, Saturday 56kg -ha ). Anyway, they eat, I meditate, had 2+ hours of sauna and lots of buckets of cold water and cold showers, and then we get ready for the medicine. It is supposed to start at 5, however, after long waiting in the cold lounge, the space is cleared and ready at 7. The shaman is doing his thing, measuring the medicine in cups and blowing smoke over them, chanting something, smoking some more, chanting some more then we have been told that this is a different strain than the one is supposed to be - whatever as long as it takes me to infinity, doesn't matter. And then we have been given a bit of talk and told " those are 5 grams of medicine and this is not what you might take with your friends 2 grams watching tv - it is very powerful in 20-25 minutes buff you're out of space, we recommend eating them all but if you feel like you don't want to, you don't have to, blah blah blah. THEN at some point, you will be taken here on this seat in front of me and I WILL say a prayer for you " Bear in mind that I am the only one here who had 5 grams before, and only one woman had a bit of medicine a long time ago, so pretty much all those are newbies. More chanting, praying and giving thanks then we start eating them. The other guy (channelling guy) already start to ask silly questions and is clear that is so caught up in his mind, then he is agitated even before eating them, then had a weird request to turn the sound speakers to one side to not get disturbed by the LED lights that show on the front panel. I was already thinking that this will be a fuck hell of a ride if the guy keeps up like this. Ok, got all the plants in one go, they taste very sweet (possibly sprayed with sugar to be more edible) and crunchy but it didn't look to me that there are 5 grams. Anyway, I pull my eye mask and then I lay back on my yoga mat, covered with a blanket and a bolster at my head. And then we wait. As I had fasted I was expected to take off in 10 minutes, but I am calm, shaman is chanting and singing beautiful songs with his partner, blowing smoke over us, more drumming and a moment of silence. And I am waiting, and waiting and waiting ... Some people get a bit of headache or noise sensible, but all I get is a yawn... THAT'S IT - I am yawning, that's the first sign that the plants are now in the system, the next sign is that you want to go to have a wee, but I am not - my body doesn't eliminate so much water since fasting. That's okay. Some people ask to be taken out for a wee or air, but I am ready to take the express to infinity. I am sitting back and waiting and waiting (my backbones are hurting and I have to roll over from time to time) and it struck me - it doesn't work the medicine doesn't have any effect. When you have 5 grams of plants you cry for mommy rolling all over the floor but all I got was a very little tunnel vision (maybe 1 or 2 minutes ) and some short-lasting kaleidoscopic effects when I press my palms against my eyes. And obviously, no one is tripping over there as everyone is calm and silent. At this point the organiser has a word with each other, sensing that something is wrong. It must be 60-90 minutes at this point and there are no effects besides a bit more yawning. Everyone is calm as there's more chanting. We have been told to be mindful of very loud releasing sounds and to scream into the pillow if that is the case, as there is a neighbour that keeps looking over the fence and he is curious about wtf is going on there; however, seeing that the medicine doesn't work, the shaman starts beating his drum and screaming songs from the top of his lungs past 10 pm that I created anxiety among us, thinking about that neighbour. WTF again! And at some point more chanting, some personal prayer said at my head by his partner (wonderful work if you are tripping balls), and then the ceremony is brought to an end past midnight. NO ONE WAS BROUGHT UP ON THAT CHAIR FOR THE SHAMAN TO SAY HIS PRAYER! I got up and I could not believe it - SUCH A FLOP - SUCH A FUCKING FLOP- -- I was so disappointed and angry and frustrated that I couldn't even cry or release any emotion. Everyone got up slowly and there was a feeling of disappointment in the air. Nobody wants to talk. The agitated guy asked the organisers how was the ceremony for them and they jumped up and said: "there was a dark energy coming from the neighbour but we worked hard and fought it back." And kept saying this story for 10 minutes till some women said " but we need not hear this, why are you telling us all this, we don't need to hear it. "Another woman asked why the medicine was changed at the last minute and apparently it wasn't changed at the last minute but they mentioned nothing all weekend about this. I was desolated, I didn't know what I could have done wrong. Why the medicine didn't work? This happened to me in the past when I took 6 and 7 grams and after 20 minutes I was wide awake, with no effects, but I was blaming myself for not respecting the protocol, maybe I took some vitamins or pills that cut down the effects, maybe I wasn't in a good place as set and setting, maybe it was the nutrition .... BUT NOW ... now when I gave it all I could have fucking giving it, now .... it was so much pain, that I got disgusted about all the metaphysical and mystical aspect of life! Or maybe I am not ready! Maybe it's not my time to wake up, maybe I have to sort out my root chakra before opening up my throat chakra. However, it's obvious that it didn't work for the other participants. I just rolled my yoga mat, pick up my journal and water bottle, left the space saying nothing and went straight into the house, packed my bag and drove straight home. I wasn't going to spend another night sleeping in a bed with a sleeping bag! They were reluctant to let me drive as I was under the influence - influence of what? farts? - "But you have agreed to stay here for the ceremony " - " yes, and the ceremony is over, it came to an end ". I want to go! The agitated guy try to convince me to stay as the circle is not completed without me :)) I drove home all safe in 3:30 hours of clear traffic and never lost focus or had a moment of drifting out of the mind. As I got home I hit the bed and had the deepest rest that I had in a long time. So there it is folks £488 retreat + £22/room/ night. How many plants could I grow for myself with this amount of $$$ and take an Airbnb in the woods and heal myself?