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Philosophy is bullshit. The bald man is bullshit. Spirituality is bullshit. Nonduality is bullshit. This forum is bullshit. Textbooks are bullshit. If you want to know something, you must find out for yourself. Of course, if it's something practical, technical, factual, you can (and should) seek external sources. But if it's something profound, you must look inward. How does society work? How does it really work? Why do humans behave the way they do? Why is life structured like this? Why are we even alive? What's the purpose? No bullshit. No spiral dynamics bullshit. No actualized.org mental masturbating. It's possible to answer these types of questions. You must become mad. Paranoid. Ill. You must become obsessed, for a long period of time. And only look inward. See what is the logical pattern in these questions, and in your lived experiences. When you discover the truth, you also feel it. Once you discover it, it's no longer an opinion. No longer open for debate or discussion or gaslighting. Truth is true. Truth contains all other smaller, fragmented truths. You then can detect an incomplete truth. The Truth doesn't deny it, it simply contains more than the incomplete truth. And if they keep trying to sell you the incomplete truth as the Truth, well, they aren't wrong in a sense. But it's incomplete. I recommend writing down your findings. It is possible to have a strong epiphany about something and then forget it. Some things are too abstract to be applicable to day to day life. But it's also possible to not answer your question. If you aren't obsessed enough, or if you don't feel it, or if you haven't had sufficient, diverse life experiences, these truths may not be accessible. I've suffered greatly. But at least now things make perfect sense. Certain truths are nasty. Still worth chasing though. Edit: I'm using truth, insight, epiphany, interchangeably here. Edit 2: Engaging with your Life Purpose also helps experiencing insights.

Primarily of not knowing. I like being a person, so the thought of consciousness continuing without any memory connection to my present life is what scares me. It doesn't help that basic nonduality, not god realization, seems to advocate a view where death is more or less an eternal k hole. When Bernardo Kastrup talked about his theory of the afterlife it gave me an existential crisis, lol. And I'm a little scared of hell, that there will be a memory connection to my new life, but it won't be a good place. A pretty common theme of salvia trips is turning into an inanimate object for years, that freaks me out too. That would be a kind of hell. But yeah, not knowing is scary. I put a little faith in Leo who says death is infinite love, but because I haven't experienced that I don't take that faith too seriously.

A nice post from Frank Yang on Bernadette Roberts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadette_Roberts ). https://www.instagram.com/p/CsJMKS6uNZf/ True No-Self is not the No-Self of no Ego, or No-Person, not even the No-Self of the Unitive States, or "being" a Nondual/Unitive Infinite (mere appearance) Field (that still contains an awareness (a separate self with individuality is having, subject) of an infinite empty nondual field ("object"), for example induced temporarily by psychedelics). True No-Self is the final death (or transcendece) of any form of the separate self, crossing over to Infinite Fully Empty Impersonal Nothingness/Consciousness, or Full Enlightenment. "There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all". - Kalu Rinpoche True No-Self can not be understood before fully waking up, before Great or Final Enlightenment, where any reamaining separate self fully dies/gets transcended, Infinite Impersonal Consciousness unseparable of its appearances arising within in. That last deep identity change is not gradual, but sudden. Unexpected. And has nothing beyond it. The dropping of the separate self can not (by definition) be imagined or understood before it finally happening, see the yellow markings above. Because who would do the imagining? A separate self (in whatever version). Which has to be gone to fully wake up. So the separate self can't do the imagining how it "would be like" to be gone. It is the "thing" doing/being the imagining. "Incapable of conceiving its own non existence", see text above. When one walks down the unitive states road to the end, boosted by Psychedelics, one can end up with forms of solipsism, and even further with an Infinity of Gods. A confusion of that with the Absolute, or Fully Empty Impersonal Infinite Consciousness, certain separate self aspects still left untranscended. Which then kill the unitive and nondual state of this separate self/unity-state-identity/God within an Infinity of Gods/Alien/n+1 when coming out of the trip. Necessary for that confusion (some form of pre-trans confusion to use the wording of Ken Wilber) is, among other confusions, to misidentitfy True No-Self: not True No-Self (the death/transcendence of any and all separate self/Individuality arisings, resulting in fully empty IMPERSONAL Consciousness/Nothingness/Absolute) but with some lower forms of "No-Self", like No-Ego, No-Person, No-separate-body-mind (but nondual), No-Self of Unitive States up to a very subtle and empty transparent Witness (already nondual, being the nondual infinite field), but with some Individuality still left. The last dropping/transcending/-seeing as objects arising in ones True Self- of identity, center, localization, any forms of individuality-arisings, very very subtle feelings or awareness OF Emptiness, OF an infinite universe being seen, awareness OF being, awareness of anything is what finally brings this sudden crossing over to ones Real Identity. Waking up, Enlightenment, fully empty and impersonal Consciousness/Reality. And that is where there is nowhere further to go (no n+1, no new Awakenings), final peace and liberation are to be found. In ones True Identity. And that is why stopping short, and declaring that stopping short (New Awakening n+1) as higher as that crossing over to ones Real Identity (Nothingness), is a dangerous pre-trans-confusion, which doesn't lead to ones True Being and final liberation and the end of suffering, but a continued grasping and suffering for ever higher and newer "Awakenings" not into emptiness/Nothingness, but form/manifestation, and how the manifestation/imagining process is structured. And for those not even walking this (psychedelic-) path, but basking in proliferating mere (retold) concepts or stories about this path, ending in Solipsism and Infinity of Gods, it doesn't even deliver the transcendence and beauty that these unitive and infinite psychedelic states bring. But something on a spectrum ranging from suffering to madness. The spiritual path is the transcendence of the separate self, its death or letting go, once and for all. Neti Neti, until fully being everything, because one has become the real Nothing/ness. Not the blowing up of the separate-self to infinite God-like-solipsistic dimension. That would be the other direction, leading not to freedom and love, but to suffering and closing down. Directly into the cycle of merciless suffering and dissatisfaction, being caught in the prison of the claws of the separate self/ego/self-contraction. That is what makes this pre/trans-confusion (at least in the perspective of yours truly) very very dangerous. And now, for those disagreeing, the Bear-and-Empty-Mirror thing (signature link) please Selling Water by the River PS: And to end a bit "lighter": A Samsara/Lila consisting of separate selves necessarily needs continuing Illusion/Ignorance concerning ones True Identity. So for the fraction that will for sure not change its mind just because there is Water being sold at the River (posting above), and still prefers to continue with a certain solipsistic-messiah complex, yours truly would recommend considering doing it with style: Something like the very charming and apparently very attractive for the ladies - style of Russell Brand: Then, at least, its very charming . Less capital letters, less exclamation-marks, less angry criticism, blaming and calling names, but truck-loads of charm, (especially) with the opposite sex!

That kind of skepticism is often just masked fear. Real skepticism is self-inquiry. It asks, “What am I assuming? What do I really know?” You want real nonduality? Then question your own need to be right. Cut through your own mental structures. Ask yourself, What is this voice defending? What dies if I’m wrong? Most of these “skeptics” don’t want to wake up. They want to win debates. They’re not seekers. They’re performers. But most people just use skepticism as armor. They demand proof, not because they’re hungry for truth, but because they want to stay safe behind their walls. They want others to break through their defense without risking their own identity. You don’t have to convince them. I’m not here to make you believe anything. Have you ever questioned what it means to be the one questioning? Fuck it. let them sit in the mud until they’re ready to move. They weaponize skepticism, constantly demanding proof from others while never turning that blade inward. They hide behind phrases like, “There’s no self, so who is seeking? It’s all one, so nothing matters. You can’t prove God. Therefore, it's delusion." But they’re just parrots of pointers. They haven’t bled for these insights, they haven’t died to their identity, they haven’t cracked open through direct realization.

Here that revelation of nonduality occurred simultaneously with the recognition of the "self construct/ego", being completely unreal. When there isn't a real observer, who would be attempting to validate or self deceive? It's that damn illusion again lol ❤️

That could happen, yes. But the experience of infinity is still a valid one regardless. That is the true taste of nonduality. Simply telling yourself that there is no you without an experience is absurd. Only a shift in perception matters. Without the shift in perception, intellectually you might be correct, but existencially you're still in illusion. Intellectual understanding is not enough.

You are everything. That's not spiritual ego. That's the truth of what you are. If that is not your experience, then your mind is still under the spell of illusion of seperation. And no amount of nonduality talk is going to change that. Only a shift in perception can change that.

@VeganAwake you have a strong intellectual convinction that there is no person inside yet everything you do is in service to that person. So you're a hypocrite. It's like you're trying to prove that ghosts don't exist while wearing a thousand amulets for protection against ghosts. Your behavior exposes what you truly believe at the depth of the mind. That's what ExploringReality tried to say earlier but it probably flew over your head. Intellectual understanding that the person is an illusion is not enough. It has to be a brakethrough in conciousness where the perception of a seperate me is completely undone and your sense of self expands to infinity. Without this experience, all this nonduality talk is just self gaslighting.

Quoting nonduality doesn’t make you awake, it makes you a parrot. You say you’re not claiming anything, but you’re dripping with superiority and defensiveness. classic example of ego dressing itself up in spiritual language while pretending to be humble. I’m just a regular person like the bum on the street, while slipping in jabs like, “You don’t like to be challenged,” or “You’re not teaching anyone anything". There’s a performative detachment, “I never claimed to be awake” yet a sharp urge to correct and discredit.

@VeganAwake You’re right, it’s all One. But who is saying that? And why? Are you actually gone? Or are you still trying to be right while pretending there’s no “you”? Not you personally, speaking broadly. Saying God, ego, and no-self are the same without realizing it directly in consciousness, without dying into that truth is just empty philosophy. The one who is “full of shit” is the one using nonduality to sound awake, while still defending their separate identity with clever ideas. No one is full of shit, because there is no one. But the illusion is still flapping its gums, pretending it gets it. It’s self-deception with a Zen bumper sticker slapped on.

There is nothing to defend. God, ego and no self are exactly the same everything..........that's what nonduality is pointing out. Who is full of shit? The illusion would be, believing they are separate things. ❤️

Yes the thing is by pushing nonduality as truth it creates duality between it and nonduality. One says nonduality is true, duality is not true. But hey, this is a duality right there! So they both true and neither true or its not absolute nonduality hehe Real nonduality should have enough space within itself to also include Duality, i think it is happening, we call it life 😀 has good and bad sides to it I guess!

Nonduality is saying it duality dosent exist. Its saying everything is a line and each end of the line are the same thing. Like hot and cold are the same thing temperature and theres no difference between them at all beside what the subjective experiences of temperature. Salt and sweet are the same thing consciousness, your experience of sweet and salt is a dot on a line of the same thing. The feeling of love and fear are literally the exact same emotion.

@Princess Arabia You are completely correct. We do not DO thinking. Peter Ralston overcomplicates everything too. I wanna be the Steve Jobs of spirituality lol, I love love simplicity. Check out Terrence Stephens nonduality on YT.

@Sugarcoat I don't think your suffering is even related to nonduality. People can have good, gracefilled lives while being still in duality. It's likely something else.

Actually everyone and everything is the second half of you. Love them. Nonduality accomplished 👍

The second half of you is out there somewhere. Then the two will become one. Nonduality, ta da. 💔

It is seemingly a hindrance. That’s how i got on this path of psychedelics and spirituality nonduality in the first place. Buddha said life is Dukkha (suffering)

Over the past few weeks I have been experiencing something very impactful, ineffable and beyond profound. I have been having what I call Glimpses of How Existence Actually Is. They have occurred maybe 5 or 6 times now. I have 11 years of experience with Nondual Meditation, Contemplation, and 8 years of experience with psychedelics (Cannabis, Psilocybin LSD, MDMA and DMT). I’ve also read many books on consciousness, nonduality, etc. These Glimpses of Actual Reality are orders of magnitude profound than any of my most powerful nondual experiences or any of my breakthrough psychedelic experiences. It is something that is beyond experience, beyond words, beyond linguistic description but here I will make an attempt to describe it. Here is what has been happening. At spontaneous moments when I am simply going about living my life I will get a visceral “feeling” prior to thought, of “how did I get here?” in relation to Life. Within milliseconds flashes of my birth and how I perceived the world as an infant and throughout “my life” will flash into my mind. This is juxtaposed with a complete removal of all sense of solidity. All definitions for objects and concepts are removed. Reality feels entirely like a Mind and all objects and phenomena feel like ideas and thoughts being imagined into being. Almost immediately as this feeling comes up, I also see the entire experience of life to be deeply and profoundly alien. But it also the most familiar and obvious way of being. It feels so factually real. It’s not necessarily “alien” because there is absolutely no sense of separation or other when these glimpses happen. Its just the most profound recontextualization. I immediately realize that all of existence is ephemeral and is a dream that is Imagined. And that I am existence itself and thus I as existence am being imagined right now. That the entirety of everything that ever can be is simply an idea occurring within Infinite Mind and that this, what I am experiencing right here, right now is the Absolute. That this right here, right now is the Ultimate. That this right here, right now is the Godhead. I feel infinite power and ultimate freedom. But it is alien beyond words compared to my standard baseline “human” state of consciousness. In short I go from a human on a planet that sees himself as fundamentally unified with all phenomena; to being Absolute Mind Imagining Infinity. It’s such a drastically different way of being than what I am used to, than what any of my peak nondual or psychedelic experiences have shown me. It’s so radically Truthful that the illusion of all of this life and existence is seen so completely obviously. Then fear comes up. A visceral primal fear comes up prior to any thoughts. I fear that this will destabilize me and that I wont be able to function if I perceive reality and life like this. And if I cant navigate life then I can’t survive. And so it is this almost immediate somatic fear creates a false separation that pulls me back into the assumed stability of illusion and away from How Existence Actually Is. All of this occurs in the span of 2 or 3 seconds. My consciousness shoots up to infinity then comes back down to human level. I have reflected on this for the past few days and have come to understand that my fear is ego resistance to Reality. My ego feels threatened on a survival level at directly experiencing the Absolute in daily life and seeing life as imaginary, as an idea occurring in the God Mind. The concern that I wont be able to navigate life while perceiving it this way is understandable, given how drastically different it is compared to the “human” level perception that I’m used to. However I can see that this fear is unnecessary. If this is how reality actually is, If this is the Truth of how existence really is and if this is my direct experience, even if it is very different than what I am used to; why be scared? I care about Truth more than anything. And I choose The Truth even if it means that I can no longer navigate life. However I don’t think this is necessarily a concern. I think the best thing to do is to simply accept and surrender to these God Mind glimpses and open up to them when it comes on. There may be a period where I may be disoriented and need to readjust to a new way of interfacing with life and existence. The more I surrender and accept the process, the more smoothly I will flow into a new more honest and more true way of being. A way of being that paradoxically would enable this imagined individuation to navigate this imagined idea dream of life much more synchronistically, joyfully and effectively. Contrary to the reluctance of the visceral fear, these glimpses of the Absolute are an invitation to living and being in the greatest place an individuation can possibly be. In Truth.

Duality is quite obvious. But nonduality is even more obvious. It is so powerfully obvious that it shatters the illusion of Duality. Ta-Daaaa!!! lol

@Sugarcoat The main issue is that my childhood friends keep giving me the cold shoulder and they ignore and block my apologies. Maybe I am just right after-all, and they needed that tough love. They have been roasting me in a group chat for years because I have a spiritual TikTok page. I thought they would be proud of me and happy for me. I guess friendship, laughter and nostalgia does not cure plain old jealousy. I have been listening to Leo and this guy Terrence Stephens "nonduality" for almost a decade. I now am getting more views than Leo. And I feel guilt for that. I don't deserve this attention and praise. I just want my spiritual older brother to be healthy and happy. It angers and frustrates me to see Leo constantly battling health problems. I have an idea that probably was not even suggested yet, in terms of healing. But I am deeply afraid of Leo. What if he will get irritated if I even suggest a new healing modality. I just want to help. But I always get in trouble for that. Basically... I was at Dr. Joe Dispenza's retreat in Cancun, Mexico during the pandemic in 2020, there IS a way to heal almost anything. Oddly enough, It would take the cooperation of this entire forum. Not expecting that to happen. We would basically flow ALL of our loving energy towards a picture of Leo or just group love concentrated in one spot. We ALL collectively can heal Leo's body if we gather around him, even if it is a symbol or picture. I have seen people stand up from wheelchairs and I am as skeptical as they come. I just want him to be open about the healing. And to put a little bit of his trust in Dispenza's work as he measures what we all here call The mystical, he measures the electricity in the brain especially during an awakened state. You CAN change your genetic expression, to a timeline that has never involved sickness in the first place. Leo, all I want is for you to be open and as open as I was when you rescued me from the drudgery of atheism and a loveless life. You gave me the greatest gift of all. You told me I am God. I now know I am Love and God. I have never been happier but this last little shroud of guilt even for making this post still lingers... Go easy on me guys. I have some ideas on how to heal virtually anyone... Be open about Dr. Joe Dispenza's research too. He involves other doctors and skeptics to verify his lab results all the time.

I think my faves right now are Alexis and Andreas because they have so much material. Alexis is more on the flowery language side while Andreas is very kind of ordinary. Jim is good too. I actually went to my first live nonduality events also this year.

Nonduality on youtube.

@integral The ego cannot reproduce it. Because to have a goal or want something is to create a demarcation, is to create a duality. And thusly the femtosecond your mind creates that duality you are immersed in delusion and illusion. The reason it typically happens in the kitchen or when you're doing something that doesn't require the mind too much is precisely because you're not attempting to make anything profound happen. Simply devote yourself completely to nonduality, make your whole life about it, be honest and your mind, your being will become fertile soil for Awakening to be realized.

Hello, at the moment I'm doing an education for facilitating circling. I'm doing this education because I want to deepen my circling practice. Circling is a practice which combines authentic relating with meditation and with psychotherapy. Very powerful, my relationships are deepening since I'm doing regular circling and I experienced depths in human connection that feel psychedelic and just show me more and more what is actually possible in connection and how deep, nurishing and joyfull real connection is. Im also doing regular contact improvisations jams, which is an experimentative dance form. I'm also thinking about switching job (at the moment I'm working hourly in a supermarket) that is more aligned with my values. I'm also exploring nonduality at the moment and system thinking. Ah and almost forgot to say that but im starting an education in somatic experience in the end of the year. It seems that my future seems to be heading in the direction of being something like a therapist. Im 23 and kinda lost a bit because I see so much possibilities and I'm not sure what to do. I love exploring human connection and it's so nourishing but im not sure how to integrate that into my "life purpose", should I do YT videos (I am trying it but am not sure yet if i want to go that route)? should I focus on exploring and deepening stuff in this area and trust that with time it will resolve itself? I did a long time of theater but it doesn't catches my attention anymore and I'm really drawn to contact improv dance and Im asking myself if I should explore more the world of performance. Im going regular to meditation retreats and also see potential in the direction of focusing more on consciousness exploration and making a life purpose out of that. At the moment im drawn mostly drawn to exploring connection but outside of authentic relating spaces I don't see so much possibilities to explore that besides a bunch of good friends. I have a big urge to have it figuret out and having the possibility to explore this more and even tought about moving to a bigger city for more possibilities(i live at the moment at a 180-220.000 city). I'm just worried that the potential that is clearly there doesnt get used in a fullfiling way for me. I just feel limited and am asking myself if Im in the right direction and should just trust the process, if I should be more concrete, if I should be more diciplined and do more stuff and be more proactive...i kinda feel a bit anxious and I can imagine that an perspective from outside could be fruitful. I am exploring my potential but it feels that there is more and I'm not sure how to tap into the fullest and because of that there are a lot of days when I just do nothing, not reading, not educating myself, consuming and just being lazy. I want to do something with this stuff but dont really know what