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Clarence replied to Clarence's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Perhaps he studies also on his own; I don't know. But I think it is possible that he can remember hundreds of his past lives and have contact with guides who can provide him with informations about reality, the world, the past, that other people don't have access to. There are psychic people all around the world. I believe that at least certain things he says are true in the sense that I don't have direct access to the informations he has - so at this level, it is a belief. But I don't think that the existence of psychic people, or that certain people can remember their past lives, is a belief, as their claims can be verified in this reality. It could also be possible to directly verify certain things Matias says (like go to Egypt and in the pyramids with him to see if something actually happens - to feel the energy inside and to see if/how it starts raining). Maybe also it could be possible to verify certain things about the ancient past or things about this planet by developping psychic abilities. Though, that would likely be very difficult. But who knows, sometimes people get psychic abilities after near death experiences or wathever. You saying "You being God is not a belief." is a belief 🙂 I partly agree with that - that it could be a belief for some people. At this point, I believe Leo when he says he has reached Alien Consciousness. In a sense, I think he would like others to understand or believe him about that too - or I misanderstood him. (I just had my own tiny experience of it two days ago, but that's it). I've also always believed him when he talked about reality and God, far before having my first awakenings. Was I wrong to believe him? I don't know. In the end, I checked that for myself. But in a sense, thinking that you are God is a belief until you've checked it for yourself (am I wrong, @Leo Gura). Still, I was not incorrect to believe it was true. Actually, I even knew prior to my experiences that it was true as my intuition was so strong. What's interesting about Matias is not just the pyramids, but all the aspects of reality he talks about that give understandings about reality and this planet on things we cannot see - which maybe could be verified by developping psychic abilities, among other things. The thing I agree here with though is that understanding God and Consciousness and how you are creating your own reality through direct experience is more fundamental than all this. But for me it's worth looking into those things still, as we are stuck on this planet there are certain things I want to know/understand, which psychedelics are not likely to give me answers on. -
The issue is that you are framing existence as illusiory, or "imagined". That's because the perceiver has not been deconstructed. There is no mind, mind is just a form of existence which can be dissolved. Once that is done, there is no imagination, you simply recognize the nature of existence as what it is, changing and infinite. This however does not mean that existence does not relate to itself in certain ways. Your alien consciousness relation could merely be a dream, a neurological phenomena. An advanced AI could take your brain and it could stimulate certain parts of it such that you'd have an alien experience. It would understand how your brain relates to certain aspects of existence, how the particular expression of the wavefunction of the universe, or the geometric relations of universal existence, relate to these particular expression of infinitude. If you look at the brain as a particular relationship, and then the relationship between the brain and what you call "consciousness" as another relation, the assumption is that because the relationship that we call "brain" or "brain-activity" is limited (geometrically, mathematically, physically), it therefore means that what it relates to must also be limited in such a way. But this is no the case, you can have a limited number of neurons that interact with infinitudes. In an abstract sense, a neurological complexity of 2 neurons could relate to infinite space. You would assume that two neurons could only create so much "space". But two neurons can have a relationship with space, which is infinite, and the neurological complexity would then determine how sophisticated the separations are within this space. Full neurological activity would be infinite space (or better, total space), where as partial activity would be partial space. From the perspective of a human mind, totality of space (meaning, literally infinite spatiousness) is not common, so when this experience occurs, it seems so all encompassing, so total, that the mind deems it as "beyond the brain". But this is not beyond the brain, because your notions of what a brain can do/how it relates to other aspects of existence is naive and reductionistic. And infinite experience can be had with a finite relationship between different aspects of existence, that's what is being missed, because of a failure of imagination. I don't think you will ever experience anything outside of the informational landscape of your brain, not in this form of existence. The fact that you experience universal relationships from the perspective of a solipsistic object will only confirm to you, given you engage in full delusion, that this is the only object that can exist. Ergo, this hallucination is all that exists, because you are taking the hallucination itself as the prime and total arbiter of reality and existence. The solipistic nature of the object, given the investigation into it's own nature by means of realizing it's own existence, will necessarily lead you to conclude what you have concluded about reality. It is not a conclusion grounded in the absolute nature of existence, but rather your epistemic approach towards how to determine the nature of existence. In other words, because your epistemic framework has taken it's particular existence, which is all of existence that exists to itself, as the grounds from which to determine what can and cannot exist, the description of it's own nature necessarily would become the description of existence itself. Totality is simple what existence looks like, or is. Each individual aspect of existence is Total, but this feeling of totality is then projected as a concept onto the notion of reality itself. Notice that the feeling of totality is indeed a feeling, separate from the totality of any given aspect of existence.
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This is interesting, Billy also said Jesus was an Alien what you guys think?
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Dazgwny replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura I know you said a while back you wouldn’t show anymore live awakening videos due the backlash or derogatory responses or something along those lines. But just out of interest have you ever set up the camera and recorded yourself whilst then awakening to this alien consciousness? Then actually ran it back through to yourself and watching from your standard state of consciousness observing that and the sorts of ways you may be trying to explain it to yourself during the awakening with what your saying to yourself and how your acting or whatever it is you may be doing in that state? -
Right but the alien consciousness stuff and alien language and whatever and your perception of it being some deeper intelligence could literally just be a dream delusion made up by your very human mind. Given the nature of psychedelics you could delude yourself this content is somehow mapping onto existence in a way that it simply does not. I sometimes have dreams that are more real than reality. Normal dreams, where I can lucidly and clearly see I see everything around me in a level of detail and vividness that I don't experience during waking life. There is all kinds of things my brain alone can do without any deeper necessity for some sort of consciousness expansions. We know this because we now have technology that can do the same. In fact we'll probably be able to record these dreams soon given advances in technology. The problem with psychedelics is that they do the opposite of deconstructive work. While they have a deconstructive component, they also will make you severely overconfident and susceptible to convincing yourself of any given intention you have set for yourself. In my view the alien stuff you experience is literally just a dream that you brain is generating, and we'll have prove of this sooner or later. There is nothing magical about this, otherwise you'd be able to use that intelligence to solve any type of real world problem. But the convenient thing is you can't solve shit with it, for whatever made up reason. The thing about psychedelics is that they will give you a SENSE and FEELING of deeper meaning, deeper "realness" and so forth. But they can do so for ANYTHING at all that your consciousness can come up with, including any delusion. The feeling of deeper "realness" and deeper "meaning" is not deconstructed while on psychedelics, it is amplified. And a deconstruction of those feelings is necessary if you don't want to get captured by these simple egoic dynamics.
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Leo Gura replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well, at least let a crocodile bite your hand or something, if you claim to have transcended suffering. That might open my mind. Alien Consciousness is a lot harder to demonstrate than immunity to suffering. They just aren't alike. I wish I could demonstrate it, but then again I don't claim to be in that consciousness permanently. -
_Archangel_ replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura What kind of evidence would you consider a proof though? I think you know pretty well that some insight and achievements are so radical you cannot give a tangible proof of them. That's why i'm surprised by your attitude. Daily poeple challenge you attaiments and you obviously cannot give them a proof of Alien Intelligence, cause the evidence would be the experience you had, that you cannot transfer to any other. This seems to me like a double-standard in you thinking, unless i'm missing a peace of it and there is something i'm not awere of. -
Maybe you find the following interesting: Hancock, Supernatural Spangler, Subtle Worlds: An Explorer’s Field Notes Ziewe, Jürgen. All books. Strassman, Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies Vallee, Jaques. Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers. And Vallee, Dimensions. These beings & abduction-phenomena appear since prehistoric times, all cultures, all places, all centuries. Some have them with psychedelics, some without.
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I have mixed feelings about this post, and I do feel I disagree more with this: https://www.actualized.org/insights/child-prodigies-and-geniuses My reasoning is that even with good genetics, will power, drive, passion and desire goes a long way. Even if you started in a bad spot, just like in Unciv or in civilization 5 game, you had to make your first capital next to desert or tundra and some hills with little food points, maybe you lucky it's a coastal capital, and even if you settled on a hill next to a mountain and river tile, surrounded with green hills and grasslands for great growth and all that, I think it's the desire and will power and passion that drives and fuels that growth, population, production, gold generation, all that. I think to downplay that aspect for some alien level consciousness is both a bit reductionist and devalues humanity like that. It's a very subtle and sneaky way to argue for black pill ideology and to argue a nihilistic determinism there.
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lol that's hilarious. Was the church Santo Daime? It's funny how the Christian aspect of these churches may be influencing their willingness to tolerate beliefs outside their norm. Nothing against Christianity, but that does seem to be common for them. Damn, that is so cool. It's interesting that you'd have a visionary experience with 5meo, because that is definitely not typical. You must be highly prone to those types of states. I've clearly felt the presence and communications of entities many time during pharma, but my experiences were nowhere near as powerful as yours sound. I think the line gets blurred when talking about aliens and multidimensional beings. They all seem to be beyond those limitations, and it would appear humans are the dunces who mostly can't take advantage of their innate capabilities. We're like majestic birds whose wings have atrophied, leaving us to walk in the mud our whole lives, knowing very little and getting most of it wrong. Quite mysterious what coarse of events led to this condition. I've been into the UFO/alien/entities topic for a long time, so I love talking about it when I get the chance. There doesn't seem to be much interest or belief in it here, but I guess that's to be expected. For many people, spirituality probably sounded weird at first too.
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One of the things that has helped me cope with my health problems is that I know I can just reincarnate as an alien.
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For me the bad side till now is the delay in releasing this Alien Course soon. I want to be alive to see it. Maybe try it. I waiting more for this than for the WW3 or Second Coming of Jesus hehe
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@Rafael Thundercat it’s either alien consciousness or pick up lines 🤣🤣 he doesn’t care about any other subjects, oh the contrasts of reality
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@Rafael Thundercat Leonarda 🤣 i can’t wait to hear about alien consciousness, he keeps talking about it but doesn’t spill the beans.
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If Leo said he was in the brick of literally turning into an Alien, why not letting go of the Man Indentity and becoming a Woman, not by cirurgy but re-imagining itself into woman, Dna and all. Full META-morphosis. Good challenge hum. Hi.. Leonarda here.. Today we going to talk about.. Identity Transmutation.. Yes, I told you guys.. Alien Consciousness..
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Correction: This is the actual Mexican Day of the Dead pizza. I may keep my initial Alien Intelligence pizza, whose skull and design are not human at all
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Here’s a real equation for ya: Alien meth > human math
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Thank you. 😆 Thanks, now I can't unsee it. I'll go for more classic styles then… I need my alien intelligence pizza (I'm unable to pick one… they all look intelligent).
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Alien Intelligence Pizza: take a bite of this pizza and discover what it's like to have a hyper-intelligent mind - if you dare! The pizza has a flavor that is unique to the one who tastes it and makes you experience its unique intelligence… transcending the limits of human consciousness.
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Definitions of standard math were made to correspond to empirical reality. You can easily have other kinds of math. You could make a computer world in which 1+1=11. It would be analogous to a non-Euclidean world. It would feels weird and alien and it would mind-fuck you because none of your intutions would work. Also, keep in mind that the human mind evolved to do math in and about our empirical reality. Otherwise it would be useless. You can have an infinite number of different kinds of logics.
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https://youtu.be/88_A-cg2PY8?si=GZyR-ahJMIFdXRfL Humans will destroy themselves for a long time before nature does have fun humans. The jokes are on you creedy little humans nature always finds a way. And your answer little monkey mind would be yes the planet can take it so what's the problem? Well, pinhead yes the planet can take it but by the same token, I doubt you will be humans if you keep going down this path of greed. And all your precious little human fancy cars fancy lives, and all that bullshit shit you feed your little minds and all your infantile silly human platitudes and attachments will mean naught. Overfishing overpopulation and greedy little humans are just some of the problems. None of you donkey minds know what real fear is so don't try to act as if you do. Listening to the egos at play saying it makes you more mature because you believe you are enlightened. You wouldn't have the balls nor guts to stand up to your own shadow that's for sure. I Love how you humans talk about wars why don't you grow a pair and get out there on the front line? You lily-livered little Kretins the lot of you. Just the idea alone would have you poltroons quaking shaking and quivering convulsing in your pusillanimous bull shit. Ignorance is bliss and it can also be hell. "I am not surprised that some members should disrelish your exposition " The word impossible does not exist for God just like non-existent. A very subtle way of jailbreaking your mind-expanding. How do you know there is something that said nothing? Mind is just an infinite thought away. Nothing didn't know it was something until it became something. For nothing to ever have happened something had to have happened. Wake up to the fact you are dreaming The same substance infinite arrangements flavors it can reinvent redefine regiment regionalize reogment all within itself forever. It creates the elusion of an elusion Infinity was always possible just made impossible. Yes, something that has unlimited power can be deduced the most efficient way, but all ways would be just as efficient because you are limitless in everything. If one can dream up a flee just as easily as the universe you see where I am going with this. What has it been using too much brain power? Infinite thought energy infinite imagination everything. Why would it have to conserve power? Yes, it can create the most efficient way but it's a dream. Every way is possible. It sounds like a robotic linear way of thinking. Maximizing minimizing? These are human concepts See it needs to put more output in than input. It's infinitely unlimited. But you see you already are the most efficient mind why would you worry about any of these things if one is infinite. It's already infinite input and output. What is too literal in thinking way too logical. You're limiting yourself why? Conservation of what thought? This would be a self-imposed limitation. Nothing can beat the raw power of infinite thought/imagination. You have to have some balance of goodwill and rascality to you. More Beneficence I would say. Even if an Alien race invented a supercomputer as big as the known present Universe it still could never be as expansive as Infinite intelligence. For that computer, one would need a whole universe full of Suns to run it. A billion Suns a second just to power it most probably would take decades to fully power it up. Nothing can beat infinite pure thought imagination is the only reality. Stem cell therapy, What are the pros and cons, the legality and ethical reasons, and so forth and so on? It should not only be available for the rich and powerful but for all humanity. Stem cell transplantation has revolutionized the treatment of various life-threatening diseases, offering hope and healing to patients worldwide, and is still very much in its infancy. The choice of the best country for this life-saving procedure depends on many factors, including medical expertise, healthcare infrastructure, success rates, and regulatory frameworks. With that said the United States, Mexico, Japan Panama, India Germany, Singapore, etc are some at the forefront of this research, as for moral and ethical ramifications that is for you to decide for yourselves. And one really has to come from an unbiased frame of reference. How many terminations of pregnancy are in a year worldwide? I will leave it there. I think I wrote this 3 years ago. From the top down this could be infinity dividing infinity by Infinity. Every fragment keeps dividing itself and it becomes an infinite self-replicating process of subdividing itself forever and ever. How does pure nothingness create from an empty void? How can one imagine all things and everything from a blank slate? if there is only a blank slate to work from? Into infinite complex shapes worlds everything you could ever imagine and things you could not even begin to comprehend as a finite mind? Was it always omnipotent before it was? omnipresent Can I answer this now after 3 years of course I can. Or it is whatever you want it to be Infinite imagination can create anything because it is so infinitely malleable that there is no meaning to anything but whatever meaning you give becomes a reality of infinite realities. In other words, it is pure infinite magic of unlimited imagination. Cross-platform gaming comes to mind. .
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Tripping with partner is like alien sex, highly recommend.
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Human porn is nothing compared to Alien Pizza Porn
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Water by the River replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I know you are not sure about that my friend. How could you? We have not met beyond exchanging mere written words. Hope you don't mind if I just continue doing what I like, just the way I like doing it. Selling Water by the River with a truckload of distinctions, states, duration, this or that, and outside sources and jargon. Why? Learned this is the way to do it in school & university. And honestly, I also like it like that. So a kind of hang-over. Delivered also with plenty of songs from my own heart & being, singing in resonance with the joy of Infinite Release and magnificent wonder at the majesty of it all. Rejoicing in no real urgency being left to convince myself or "others". And just expressing myself and not trying to convince anyone in a grasping way. Not taking the play in anway anymore serious at all, yet playing it. It truly is all just a play. A play where compassion doesn't truly hurt anymore, and nothing is really needed, yet it all seems to appear. Who likes this expression is welcome, and who has a different style: Also welcome. And who doubts: perfect, caveat emptor, especially with sellers selling water by the River! And when all of that is done, I just look in the River, burn all the Sutras, kill Buddha & Alien & entourage, and smile and rejoice Selling Water by the River ... as I please -
Water by the River replied to enchanted's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"Ken Wilber: The downside comes with people that only use psychedelics or drugs and I found that over the years they just become mean. It's somehow just kind of closes them down it's like you keep doing it and you keep doing it you keep doing it it doesn't quite cause the transformation. It can cause a peak experience but generally not a transformative experience and some people like David Deida will say that in order for altered changes of state to contribute to transformation a permanent transformation it has to be basically endogenous and not a exogenous it has to be has your own source People who do that (Psychedelics) the people that do use both (Meditation and Psychedelics) and use it as a sacrament i think an enormous bit out of it." From one year ago: How healthy/smart is disdain for humanity (instead of compassion) if ones holarchic being consists of mainly being human? Did God only create 2-legged-untruthful-bullshit with lacking potential on this planet or what? How about wisdom/awakening AND compassion&love? Integrating higher and lower elements of ones own holarchical being? Not blaming the acorn (humans) that they are not an oak (alien) yet? Leo, did you ever read Wilbers descriptions of healthy growth (transcend & include ones humanity) and unhealthy growth (disassociate & not integrate (aka hate) ones humanity)? A whole book written by Wilber on the unhealthy growth/choices at third tier: Wilber, The Religion of Tomorrow. Most possible f***-ups of third tier in one book. Ever read it? Starting to notice that any audience/beings tend to respons to healthy messages? And not to Alien-escapism? Why is that? Some safety mechanism from God almighty? Selling basic healthy growth/transcendence mechanisms by the River
