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I took some powerful stuff yesterday evening and smoked some strong weed along with it. I was determined to figure out this non-dual conscious One which I have been conscious of for the past 7 months or so. So I did this and just sat, waiting for something to happen. Then it hit me so strongly, I became fully conscious of the non-dual One. The first thing I became conscious of was that it was me, it was none other than me!! It was fully alive and conscious. I asked, are you everything? And in an instant, I just fully consciously cognized that yes indeed it is literally everything! It looked trough my aware eyes and looked at the objects around me and made it directly clear that everything It was looking at was It. Looking trough my eyes with love and pure awareness, I saw It as Myself and in Myself. At last, I finally became fully conscious that It is totally formless, invisible. And it has to be that way. It is the formless which manifests all form. It all happened by a flash, in an Instant, and I saw that it was the formless one who took on all form around me. It lasted for about 20 minutes more, then it subsided gradually. I was in tears after this episode, in shock and in metaphysical bliss. The understanding is regained completely due: - Form is formlessness. They are one and the same. - Everything is It. All objects, all energy, all matter, all human beings. All is It. - It is none other than I and You. Completely, fully. - It exists. The non-dual One (God, Consciousness, Absolute Infinity) exists, absolutely.

As for MDMA’s similarity to enlightenment—I am not sure I can remember that. No doubt spiritual paths can connect us with…feelings of lucid intoxication similar to MDMA. I wonder why we are not always in a state of constant bliss, clarity, insight and love—like heaven on earth? To be so mentally clear, and so full of love…I think it is the same for MDMA and other spirituals: Goodness and Beauty ARE there all the time. Maybe people are aware of different aspects of IT at different times; then sometimes a person becomes more aware. May the amazement go on forever, as we enter the ever-greater and ever-greater. I wonder whether some lack of pleasure is unnecessary? Probably yes. I think back on my spiritual experiences…and my MDMA experiences…and the memories remind me to love and contemplate. I recently re-watched the fantastic episode about taking responsibility one’s own happiness—“How to Stop Being a Victim- The #1 Reason You Are Stuck” … that is such a good episode, and it helped me a blockage of misery.

Yes, rapture and bliss in Jhana is comparable. @Serotoninluv My first ~10 MDMA trips had incredible magic and love to them and didn't cause any comedown the next day at all, in fact, I've always had a good afterglow for some time after. The last few times when I took it, there was no magic, little to no increase in empathy, two days of low mood afterward and this was after taking over 8 months break so I see no point to take it anymore. I think neurotoxicity with MDMA is a non-issue if used responsibly. Even though something had to change in my brain I see no negative side effects.

Great topic! A common trap is spiritual bypassing. For example, because I didn’t want to deal with “real” life problema (school, work, relationships etc), I started to do some very long meditation sessions (4 hours a day). Deep down, I wanted to numb my emotions, not deal with life, and live in eternal bliss. The result of this was terrible...

That is nice but the problem is not to have a glimpse of what you are talking about but to conduct your existential thread towards the ultimate. By existential thread I mean the point of view that stays during the process of birth and death, we can call it soul for common understanding. By ultimate I mean That thing that we are all searching for, that which will settle us for the rest of eternity. Not the experiencial eternity like heaven, hell or eternal bliss but actual eternity. Time is illusory so is actual eternity since there is only this moment so it would be more proper to say that the ultimate is this moment getting to absolute stillness. To stabilize to absolute stillness one important step is to be able to die properly, meaning consciously and blissfully or ecstatically, not panicking or trying to get one more breath. It is unclear whether 5meo helps to that end. Martin Ball seemed pretty advanced but you saw how he panicked when the system went in a certain direction, and that was after he surrendered to permanent 5meodmt effect (as he claims) that would have rendered many mad or dysfunctional. Had he died in this state of sleepless sleepiness it is unclear what it would have meant for his existential thread.

@Aakash Yah. This knowing fucked the ego, hard. LITERALLY, thoughts/beliefs dictate the reality experienced. LITERALLY. Existence is an infinite quantum field of possibilities and potentialities of all the distinct realities that can be created in this moment--based on the ego's vibrational offering, i.e., the thoughts and beliefs "you" are presently replaying in "your" head right NOW, "picks-out" one of those distinct realities to be experienced by "you," right NOW. This includes the small and big things in "your" life. “[T]he atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts." —Werner Heisenberg Perception of "facts" changes the so-called facts themselves. This is well known in Quantum Mechanics (yes, I did study Quantum Physics in University). Even down to dis-ease... If it is true that reality is a giant mind, then ALL dis-ease is 100% psychosomatic, because there is NO physical "body"--the "body" itself is a part of the giant mind, or it itself is made of mind-stuff, and so it is subject to "your" vibrational offering, your thoughts, just as the rest of the reality. "When your chronic attention is upon things you do not want, while the chronic attention of your inner being is upon things that you do want, overtime you cause a vibrational separation between you and your inner being, and that is what all illness is—separation, caused by your choice of thoughts between you, and your inner being." —Abraham If you believe something is good for "you," it is. If you believe something is harmful for "you," it is. This is why diet and nutrition and medicine will NEVER find consensus. The root is the mind. Belief dictates the "rules" of reality. Collective, and individual egoic beliefs. Therefore, the rules are VERY malleable. Metaphysics rules over physics. This conversation here? "I" attracted it into this present experience because "I" wanted to know how the fuck to reconcile law of attraction with spiritual enlightenment, or at least, feel the temporary comfort knowing that I'm not the only one that sees this, and my vibrational offering was positively enough aligned to allow that distinct reality to be in "my" experience; and it is, right now! Sure enough I logged in and saw this new post in perfect timing. Yet, this is just consciousness conversing with consciousness about consciousness... So to sum it up: The fabric of reality is LITERALLY thoughts/beliefs. "Your" movie is 100% a reflection of the ego and its perceived doings in thinking. When the ego realizes this, it's in Mini-God-Mode. Creation becomes deliberate, focused. The ego was always creating its own heaven or hell, but now it can be wielded deliberately by the ego. EVERYTHING becomes known to be possible. If you can imagine it, it's possible. And then it becomes no surprise why stories of turning water to wine, or feeding masses of people sourced from relatively morsels of foods exist. Siddhis or spiritual-psychic powers become possible... After all, EVERYTHING is possible. I know of a close friend personally who can manipulate objects, i.e., can make ordinary objects levitate. The only question is: does the ego desire a distinct, imagined reality, and if so, does its vibrational offering match the vibration of that desired, distinct reality? Can it pick it out into "material" manifestation? The enlightened masters can warp their reality, because vibrationally they match those realities, yet, ironically, they have little to no ego/desire to begin with to even care to manifest such things. They are perfectly at peace and content with divine manifestations that already are. This seriously fucked "me." "I've" already manifested desires, instantly, shooting stars, I can feel people's emotions now with uncanny accuracy, kundalini rising symptoms (uncontrollable convulsions, sweating, diet changes, etc), have literally witnessed miracles of problems resolving themselves that can only really be explained as by magic, and "I" can consciously influence people's behaviors and their moods/attitudes... "I" don't say this to gloat, only that, this is fucking crazy and yet I see so few people talking about this. The Kybalion described this as Principle #1 of The Seven Hermetic Principles: "THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM, or "THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental." I'm pretty sure this book is Leo's recommended reading list! Here's an excerpt for quick reference and summary of the principle: Source: http://www.kybalion.org/kybalion.php?chapter=II Law of Attraction is a spiritual tool for purification for the masses--it has the potential to enable egos to consciously and quickly manifest their desires (e.g. cars, sex, money, etc) so that they can burn through them and get on to the good stuff: spirituality, more specifically, permanent bliss, joy, peace, and love. Eternal happiness, rather than wavering happiness in the world of waves. Law of Attraction IS the Metaphysical law that like thoughts manifests like experiences. In the conscious ego, however, this tool can be used for a quicker annihilation, because it can deliberately use this law to attract all the necessary circumstances (e.g. environment, guru, money, etc) that will enable liberation. Law of Attraction is the master key to master Creation in the conscious ego. Life literally becomes a giant sandbox in the conscious ego that has realized this. It's like being the film director of your own film. I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this! I'm surprised there isn't much discussion about Law of Attraction on this page, although that might just be a manifestation as a result of my own beliefs... Won't go there. I want Leo to create a video on Law of Attraction, now that his understandings of metaphysics have advanced vastly and beautifully! I am so appreciative of all his work. And if this ego is a vibrational match to that desired reality, it WILL manifest. It is a law of the universe! "If this time/space reality has within it the ability to inspire a desire within you, it is our absolute promise that this time/space reality has the ability to yield you a full and satisfying manifestation of that same desire. It is Law."—Abraham And I'll leave this, what I thought at least, was a great explanation/reconciliation between spiritual enlightenment and law of attraction. Enjoy Source: https://www.inwardquest.com/questions/42477/can-the-law-of-attraction-and-eckhart-tolle-teachings-be-reconciled Cheers & Love!

@Serotoninluv Bliss and suffering can happen at the same time. You feel blissful and ecstatic, then the next minute your feeling anxious/annoyed. Peace is the opposite of suffering.

@Zakee hinnant Great. So it seems clear at this point your mind-body is not in nonstop bliss. I would recommend increasing body awareness of the emotional dynamics playing out in the body. That is not the hand exercise or self inquiry (I've watched all three videos). The video on body awareness is very different than those things. To me, it sounds like deeper issues are rising to the surface. It can be extremely difficult to deconstruct and work through. If you have access to a social worker / psychologist, it may help.

It sounds like your mind-body is ungrounded and confused. You just started a thread telling us that you have been in nonstop bliss for weeks. Thus, the hate you are receiving is giving you bliss. Yet, here you seem to suggest the hate is bothersome to you and it is not blissful. I would recommend getting in touch with your mind-body. Leo made a nice video in this area

Guys I’m 17 and I been meditating for 4 hours or more everyday and I had my awakening January and in February I woke up with bliss and For 5 days straight I been in bliss and I’m still in bliss now ever since February 7th what is happening I’m freaking out and I don’t even need techniques nomore even if I meditate for 5 minutes it’s still there after ?

@Aquarius Yea, perhaps he needs to get in touch with body sensations and feelings. I've had experiences when bliss got too intense - yet then it becomes uncomfortable and is no longer blissful. A few nights ago, I was laughing so hard; it was wonderfully blissful. Yet then the laughter got even more intense and my abdomen started hurting. I couldn't stop laughing and I wanted to, but couldn't make it stop. Then I had trouble breathing and anxiety and panic arose. At this point, it's no longer blissful. It sounds like his mind-body is experiencing a mixture of bliss and discomfort. Yet he is saying that is not the case, that it is all good feelings.

It sounds like the bliss has stopped and you are now feeling anxiety. So, problem solved - you are not trapped in eternal bliss (you are now freaking out). Or. . . You are still in a blissful state and experience freaking as blissful. So, no problem. I don't understand the problem your mind-body is trying to solve.

Why do you want it to stop? bliss feels bad? It's like you became temporary enlightened. Enjoy it. Be careful with doctors, they may stuff you with anti-psychosis drugs. You can't tell to a doctor you had a kundalini awakening or similar. There is no such thing for medicine...

Yeah, how could one know, who would be there to tell you? But it seems though you can get so enlightened, you are always beyond birth and death, which occur in the micro moments of life already, that's in my view what is meant by it, 'Your mind is the cycle of births and deaths.' So it possible you can get so enlightened you are in bliss 24/7, no sense of doer ship, plunging into nothingness at will, non-attachment, unending love, what Ramana talked about his whole life, in the presence of hoards of people being and seeing him 24/7 Waking sleep, also what it's called, having the peace of deep sleep consciousness at all times: Q: For the jnani then, there is no distinction between the three states of mind? (of sleeping, dreaming and waking) Ramana: How can there be, when the mind itself is dissolved and lost in the light of consciousness? For the jnani all the three states are equally unreal. But the ajnani is unable to comprehend this, because for him the standard of reality is the waking state, whereas for the jnani the standard of reality is reality itself. This reality of pure consciousness is eternal by its nature and therefore subsists equally during what you call waking, dreaming and sleep. To him who is one with that reality there is neither the mind nor its three states and, therefore, neither introversion nor extroversion. His is the ever–waking state, because he is awake to the eternal Self; his is the ever–dreaming state, because to him the world is no better than a repeatedly presented dream phenomenon; his is the eversleeping state, because he is at all times without the 'body–am–I' Consciousness.

That are perferably enlightened that live an hour north of NYC? / CT ??? (Not sure if you need to be enlightened to even be a yogi ??) Kind of a random question, I had my 1st kundalini awakening about 6 months ago & have read books on the matter, but still have questions on the topic. My symptoms: -Overly sensitve to lights & sounds. -3rd eye pulsating all day long -one random crying outburst (I never cry) -Kryas I believe they are called, shaking pulsating while mediating , eyes twitching -spinning while mediating (not to much out there on this topic) -energy shot out of my crown chakra during a 2 hour long sds sit -sometimes insomnia -might sound stupid, but I feel smarter then ever or that I can see the future. -feelings of bliss or bad anxiety (extremes of both) -feelings of pins & needles when I try to sleep almost like anxiety but not really. -yes I know don't fight the energy ? - yes I've bought Leo's kundalini books on his list.. -The energy is scary, whoever says it's "just energy" is full of shit, unless you've felt it you haven't a clue. -having deeper insights, separating from the ego & looking at it in an observational point of view.

Want are you looking for exactly? You want to stop being in bliss?

Jana Dixon has several chapters near the end of her book dealing with Diet and supplements in relation with Kundalini. ,,,,,,It is very important to realize that even though there is massive free radical production with the rising of kundalini, and there is cell die-off because of this, the body uses this mechanism to restructure itself. So the temporary loss of functions should not be seen as pathological, but should be celebrated as part of the Metamorphic process. This "non-pathological stance" is very vital to grasp. This death and resurrection process may seem like an illness to the conventional mindset, but we must learn to see the Whole of it--the die-offs, the loss of cortical function, the pain, the bliss--we must see all of it in the larger picture of the evolution of humanity as a whole. It may appear like I am contradicting myself creating a protocol to prevent severe free radical damage, supporting hormones and neurotransmitters...why not let the body completely exhaust itself and cannibalize itself...doesn't that mean greater evolution? No, the dissolution occurs only in the service of greater order. We must simultaneously preserve the new order while supporting the old to fall away. The bottom line is protect your membranes, build your enzyme and mineral resources, repair your receptors, keep your blood nonacidic and get plenty of raw plant life into your system. Then you have the potential to rise to a higher homeostasis. Higher homeostasis, is to ride the dragon without falling off. ,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,If undergoing an awakening the two most important things to consider even if all else is ignored are: 1. Faith and 2. Antioxidants!!! from chapter Higher Homeostasis http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php@story=HigherHomeostasis.html

When there is no self,there is no other....All is One. When the I-self no longer arises creating the illusion of a "me" apart from "other".. All is One. "All is One" is perfectly stated as .. Existence-Consciousness-Bliss (Sat-Chit- Ananda)

My real spiritual quest began when I was 18, I just enlisted into the Israeli Army, and was training to become a warrior. A couple of months in I started to experience terrible panic attacks, anxiety, and depression, I was eventually released after a suicide attempt, while being diagnosed as a dependant personality. I had very little hope of ever being happy. I didn’t realize at the time that the episodes were in fact the beginning of a spiritual awakening. At 20, I was on many different meds, trying to solve this externally. I haven't had a clue then, that what I experienced was actually a yearn for God. I didn’t even consider the possibility that spirituality was a viable solution and that it was actually the true cure. It was years before I found out. 5 years of meds didn’t work, so I tried medicating myself with drugs, alcohol and a long 3 and a half years of toxic and codependent relationship. I accepted my fate and had lived for years in a stable moderate depressive state. To my incredible luck, 6 years ago I accidentally saw Leo’s video about curing depression. I remember that moment vividly when he said that when a person is in a deep meditative state he experiences bliss, therefore Bliss is the deeply buried basic emotion in each of us. This was a shocking discovery for me. In my total desperation and surrender, I was excited to try something new and different as a solution to my problem. Very soon the effects of meditation started to come and I was truly hopeful for the first time in 6 years of absolute misery. I've committed to this journey completely, watched every video Leo’s got, and practiced all the incredible principles and practices as well as I could. Following Leo’s radical open mindedness principle, I also found a 12 steps fellowship that deals specifically with Codependency, and it too was incredibly beneficial to my recovery. 12 steps is very simple and useful tool for shadow work and spiritual awakening. Nowadays, I’m coaching a new friend in recovery and it seems like there’s progress. Today I experience happiness 90% of the time, and I’ve almost forgotten how depression and anxiety actually feel. I’m deeply passionate about personal development, and have a steady spiritual growth. I’m running a few blogs for different audiences. I enjoy every moment and see the magic of existence. It’s amazing when you start seeing your own happiness expanding outwards to the people around you. Thank you for reading, I hope to see more recovery stories from you too.

The very mechanism of objective existence is self delusion. It is not the breath and food that is keeping this body alive but self delusion. Objective consciousness is the biggest wanker of all time. It just can't get enough of sucking up its own delusion. Every trace of movement, relativity, objectivity, separation, unhappiness is self delusion. So are the ideas of stillness, absolute, unity, love, bliss, enlightenment and all that crap along with their evil cousins. You want proof? Well every night you create your personal world so that you can delude yourself on all levels possible. What makes ye think you aren't doing exactly that right now? This extraordinary impossible feat of simultaneous creation and self imposed delusion of regarding it's own imagination as real, also known as Maya, it is all that seems to be and yet it can't be found.

So I arrived at the venue. Took a peek into the main room as I passed to make my way to where everyone was gathered (kitchen area). The main area had around 35 Yoga mats laid out. Candles burning everywhere and at the front was a main stage area (no stage). There were 4 to 5 males with instruments in their hands. I don't know the name specifically but they were them Indian type of instruments, drum's, tambourine etc. The big room looked beautiful. I could feel the energy is this room, I felt opened'ness. To begin we all stood in a huge circle and where instructed to start singing, creating harmonies. We were warming up the vocal cords. I could feel this holding back from singing (I love singing) so I dropped it immediately and started pelting it out. It felt amazing ?. Still in the circle we then started to tribal sing, banging our feet on the floor as a beat. We then knelt down and where told to continue the beat with our hands as we sang together. We started to bang the floor as fast as we could and people started screaming, myself included, all as one. As we finished the chakra singing and vocal cord warm up we were then given information about what the workshop was about. We were going to begin with a kundalini shake dance and then dive right into holotropic breath work for an hour. "An hour" ? I said in my head. She said the musician's will play as a tempo to the breath and will enhance your journey. She also explained "There will be 2 helpers around the room and if you need them at any time raise a hand. If they touch you please begin to breath deeply again. The helpers are there to help guide you and keep you safe." "Oookkkkk, so holotropic breathing for an hour." I thought. This will be interesting. I could sense fear, my palms informed me. I approached the facilitator and made her aware about the occasional panic attacks I have. She spoke from direct experience of panic and explained I had nothing to fear, surrender. The music began. We began stood on our mats. "Close your eyes and let the music take you, let the body do whatever it wants to do!" I began to shake. Dance... Whatever. My eyes were closed, at first it was easy, slow tempo. As the tempo built, I could feel my body wanted to move more freely, my arms where being held down by the mind. The rhythm wanted me to let go and do whatever the fuck I wanted but I could literally see fear in the way, I felt face to face with it. "what if you look like a pleb." Etc. I smiled and let go, my arms raised and my hips swang side to side, I was smiling. As the tempo built even further I just did whatever the fuck the body wanted to do. Sprinting, clapping, shaking my ass everything. This went on for about 20 minutes I think (guessing). The temp slowed and we came to stillness. "Lay on your mats and make yourself comfortable, keeping the throat open"(don't raise your head to far upward) I had to relax my jaw in an open mouth posture and begin circular breathing. Breathing from the stomach upwards (Wim hof style). I was lay on the mat with my throw half way down my body (I like to keep the abdomen and chest exposed for free breathing). I also placed one of my socks over both eyes. (I'll write as much as I can remember because I don't remember it all) The music began. Slowish tempo. I started to breathe. No fear whatsoever. 5 minutes into it the man next to me started making the strangest noises, I knew this was all natural, I returned back to the breath. His noises got more and more intense. I just remember breathing, remembering to breath deeply on the inhale and not fully on the exhale, making it circular. For the next however long it was I started to feel tingling. I didn't feel conscious by this point but I was still awake. By this point the man next to me seemed to be having some sort of exorcism. I could hear his body slamming off the floor. Other people where screaming, crying, laughing, I noticed for a split second other people fed off the sounds off other people but I felt differently. I felt rested in this safe space. Fear could not penetrate this space. This space didn't even know what fear was. As the tempo increased I breathed faster. I could just barely make out my hands, they were in the close palmed position. The back of my legs and butt were tingling. I noticed the majority of tingling where in the region's where physical pain usually resides. Very direct in the lower back and in the right hip. As I continued breathing, my eyes were glued open but I didn't feel as if I was looking at anything. I didn't feel like I was in this room anymore. I was just here. The biggest wave of sadness overcame me and I cried. One of the helpers I felt placed her hand on the crown of my head. I heard her whisper something like. "You are over coming the deepest fear in this room, your doing amazing." I noticed I held back crying, from letting it all out. There was more to come. I returned back to the breath and people's cries where growing stronger as the tempo increased even more. I heard a lady crying, screaming. I felt the biggest wave of empathy/ love over come me and I cried so fucking much. This time I didn't hold back. One of the helpers placed both of her hands on both my shoulders and whispered. "It's okay, you are safe." I placed my hand on my heart and I cried hysterically. I felt this person's pain. I felt I had just become this person. I wasn't crying for me. By this point the temp had reached its peak. I settled down back to the breath after feeling like I had released whatever it was and became the breath. Something was then felt.... "Breath is life, you are always safe within the breath." I remember my whole body arching, I felt something wanted to take me. "I surrender, I surrender, I give up, I surrender." I said out loud with my eyes wide open in this space. I remember placing my hands into a lotus position at my heart and offering everything. My arms raised up past my face and up over my head as I gave everything to whatever it was that was taking this away for me. My arms came back down and I wrapped my arms around myself in love. My hands then shifted down to my womb area, I created a cradle shape at my womb with my hands and I got a picture of a small baby in the womb, cradled by green leaves. When your in this space there is no mind, there is no questioning or labeling. Everything just is. I sat in complete bliss, I could hear men and women having what sounded like the best orgasms of their entire life. I resided in this place for what felt like eternity. There was nothing there. As the tempo slowed even further I couldn't even feel the body anymore. My eyes where open but it didn't feel as if I was the eyes. I was just there, somewhere. She then wanted us to return to normal breathing. So I did. I was still in this space. We lay there as I heard the most gentlest music I'd ever heard. I could hear somebody singing, the voice of an angel. After however long it was I could feel myself returning to the body bringing some slight movement into each hand and foot. Oh my goodness I was doused in sweat from head to toe, I tried moving my hands and legs and the pain was savage. I felt the need to bring the legs into the abdomen and rock gently. I didn't want to get up. I wanted to remain on the mat. I didn't feel 'with it' I felt fucking miles away. She wanted to close the space by getting us to all form a circle. I took my sock from eyes and sat up really slowly. Fuck me I was miles away. As I stared at the floor this space I was in would of usually induced a panic attack easily. That thought crossed my mind very briefly but it didn't get any further than just being a thought. It couldn't penetrate this space. I felt so unbelievably introverted at this point. You know when your coming down from a trip, it felt like that. Like you just weren't 'back yet' We all made a circle for the last time, the energy you could feel was so raw, we felt as one She invited people to share their experiences. She talked about other things and then invited us all to stand, place our left hand on our hearts and our right hand on the back of the other person where their heart is. And we chanted heart chakra mantras to close the space. I had a long drive home and I didn't trust myself just yet getting in the car so I went to a local vegan spot for some super and then drove home. I will never forget last night. ❤️

@Lynnel "You" are not going to experience the worst suffering of mankind. That would be a gross misunderstanding of what the video was trying to get across. The eternal, infinite consciousness you are is not bound by time, it created time to bind, limit, and thus create "you." This "problem" that "you" might be a cancer patient or murderer or rapist in the next life holds no water! Because you'll stop playing "you!" The "you" will be dead. This thing of eternal suffering (this is only a concept) is not a problem for the eternal you. Also, you're only seeing one half of the coin. Did you consider eternal bliss and love? "You" will not experience the highest high nor the lowest low... And that's OK. Step outside yourself, and you'll find that this "problem" you think this is is all in your head. It is selective to suite your ego. And it has nothing to do with "you." Reality is Perfect.

You are space, and now you appear to be the image superimposed on space. Now you identify with the image, but prior to consciousness you were not the space, really, nor the image? The reason I say you were not the space is because we can talk about it, so you have a concept of space, and again, as long as you have a concept of space, it's not that. The only way you can find out is by not saying anything, by catching yourself between thoughts. When you have a thought, and you're trying to figure out what it is, and when the thought stops, before your next thought enters, that's it. The space between thoughts is what we are talking about. So the thing to remember again is as long as you can talk about it, as long as you can describe it, as long as you can argue about it, as long as you stick up for your rights and say it's this or it's that, you're wrong. You're not really wrong, you're just on the wrong track, because if you were wrong, then something is right, and nothing is right, so there's nothing wrong. It goes beyond duality concepts. That's why I tell you to spend so much time alone, when you don't watch television, and you don't listen to the phone ring, where you can cut yourself off from the radio. Just sit and be your Self. Then you will experience pure being. For as long as you search, you'll never find it. After all, ask what you are searching for. You are searching for something that you already are. That's why you can never find it. If you were not that, then you would search, but you're already that, so searching becomes fruitless. And what is that? That is the space between your atoms. Every sentient and insentient thing is composed of trillions of atoms, but the space in between is consciousness. Again, we use the word consciousness for want of a better word. (tape break as Robert continues) But again, we have to function in the world, so we don't walk around trying to be smart. Instead what we do is function in the world as ourselves. Be your Self. If you are your Self, then you're safe. In other words, you're not trying to be anything. Just be your Self. What does it mean to be your Self? To live spontaneously. Most of us live from the past, as you know, and then we worry what we're going to do in the future. If you learn to forget about the past and the future, you're safe. When you live spontaneously you have no time to think, and that's when you become the witness. For thoughts are simply about the past and the future. True? When you learn to act in the moment, when you're acting in the moment you can't think because you're acting. Therefore, your thoughts are only on what you're doing and when that stops there are no thoughts, and you go on to the next thing. But you do not try to analyze the thing at all, whether everything will work out, whether it’s good or bad, whether you're making something out of it or not, whether it's in your favor or against you, all that's got to go. I received a call from a lady in Santa Cruse the other day and she started to tell me about her marital problems, so I stopped her. I told her I didn't want to hear anything about any marital problems. Does she know who she is? That's all I care about. If she knows who she is, then she goes beyond marital problems. She goes beyond concepts, longings, wants, desires. She'll be safe. For once you lift yourself up nothing can touch you again. The world no longer has any power over you. The world only has power over you when you identify yourself as a body. If you identify yourself as a body, then the world becomes real, objects become real, situations become real, the universe becomes real, God becomes real, everything becomes real and you live in duality. So one day you're suffering, the next day you're happy. Happiness leads to suffering, suffering leads to happiness. Of course, that's human happiness I'm talking about, human suffering. But as soon as you learn to go beyond that, and again that happens by living spontaneously, all suffering ceases. After all, for who is the suffering? For the one who identifies with the thoughts. {…} As an example, somebody gets fired from their job. They start to worry about that and this leads to worrying about the future, because when you worry about the past, getting fired, you're going to start worrying and thinking, "How will I pay my rent next month? How will I buy food?" And the mind loves that. It starts feeding you more. Pretty soon you imagine yourself evicted from your house and you see yourself in the welfare lines, and you see yourself become a homeless person, and sure enough you do, because that's what you believe. That's where your mind is leading you. As long as you feel you have a mind, it becomes very, very powerful. Then you can say that, "Thoughts are things," for your thoughts will materialize in this world of effects, that which you believe is real. Subsequently, if you start worrying about your job, being terminated, and you start worrying about food, and you start worrying about evictions and all that stuff, you're really saying to yourself mentally, "That's what I want to happen," and you always get what you want. You've got to watch yourself. The secret is not to change your thoughts, but to get rid of your thoughts completely. We're not trying to change negative thoughts to positive thoughts, for all positive thoughts lead to negative thoughts, negative thoughts lead to positive thoughts, that's duality. We're trying to transcend the whole bowl of wax, to go beyond, and that's what happens when you live spontaneously, it happens by itself. Living spontaneously is a meditation. Do not concern yourself with the fruits of your efforts. Everything will take care of yourself, of itself. In other words, what I mean by that is, if you're in a job for twenty-four years, do not concern yourself if you get terminated or you don't, that's not the point. The point is who do you think you are? Do you believe that you're that frail human being that has been terminated, or that frail person who has lots of marital problems, or that frail person who doesn't know if he's going to die or live? Forget about all these things, go beyond it. Identify with the absolute awareness. Identify with the total reality which you really are. You do not identify with those things by affirming them. You identify with those things by what? By silence. You see the difference? There are many schools that tell you, change the negative into a positive, but that's based on the world of relativity. You'll have to experience both, and there will be no end to it. But when there's silence in the mind, that means you get rid of all concepts, of all desires, of all needs, of all wants, of all hurts. You become oblivious to everything. Then the real Self begins to take over, which is you, and you'll automatically do, or gravitate to, the place where you have to be. It will all happen by itself, but don't think of that. Think of nothing. Learn how to quiet your mind. Learn how to make your mind quiescent like a motionless lake. A motionless lake can attract, or image, reflect, the sun, the stars, the moon, trees, grass. A lake that is noisy cannot reflect anything. So, when you learn to quiet your mind you reflect your Self, and your Self is always harmony, always bliss, always sat-chit-ananda, always the absolute reality, always absolute oneness. That's your real Self. That's who you really are. It's all up to you. What do you do with your life everyday? How do you live your life? This doesn't mean that you have to sit home and meditate all day long. It means you can go about your business. You can work. You cannot work. You can go to a movie. You can watch TV. You can do whatever you like, but never identify with the object! Never identify with what the body is doing. Let the body do whatever it came here to do, but you keep the mind and yourself on your heart, on the light, on consciousness. Quiet your mind any way you want, whatever method you use. Become the witness to your thoughts. Use atma-vichara, self-inquiry, whatever method you have to use, do it, but do it all day long, that's the secret. Not just when you come here, not just an hour a day, but all during the day. So how would you handle it if you go to your work and they terminate you? Instead of worrying, you would ask the question to yourself, "To whom is this happening? Who's going through this experience? I am." Hold onto the I with all your might. Follow the I to the source. Look at the I as a thread that seems to be connected from the source to what you're thinking about. And all of your thoughts are attached to the that thread, to the I thread. All of your fears, all of your frustrations, all of your desires, everything is attached to the I thread, and as you hold on to it tight; you follow it, follow it into the heart center. Then it will just seem to disappear. The reason I say it will seem to disappear is because it never existed to begin with, (laughs) so it appears to disappear. But once that happens you're free and you will not be disturbed by any mortal condition, and you will be happy. But when I say you'll be happy I am not referring to human happiness. I am referring to happy-happy, happy hour, really happy, for no reason. Again because your true nature is happiness, your true nature is bliss. When you get rid of the other stuff your true nature shines forth effortlessly. That's why we call this the pathless path, because there's really no path. There's only a quietness of the mind, following the I to the source. Then all of a sudden you become omnipresence, you become omniscience, you become omnipotence. Then you can say, "I am That I am," but there will be nobody left to say anything really. You will just bask in the sunshine of your love, of your happiness, of your bliss. {…} -- Robert Adams, T20: Before I Am

Listen carefully from 14min. He says those who suffer will only seek pleasure nothing more. Because people think that enlightenment is the end of suffering. That's why they are chasing enlightenment because they don't realize all they actually want is happyness not dissolusion. The only reason you're thinking about being egoless is because you think after you become egoless you'll be happy. So that's why you think enlightenment is the solution. But all you want is to be happy not dead. It's because you imagine that once you're egoless everything will be perfect in your life. And you're using pain to increase the motivation to get to that egoless state which is fine. But egoless state is not Mukti, it's not enlightenment, it's not dissolusion. It's just a pleasent, fancy experience. All you want is a pleasent experience. But when Sadhguru says suffering will not seek. What he means is that someone who's suffering will not think about dissolusion. Mukti or dissolusion means you trying cease to exist. you're trying to end yourself. To end your life. To escape life and death. To finish all your karma. Only a happy person who experienced this life totally can think of dissolusion. Because for him life pleasures doesn't matter anymore, for a happy person being happy is not a big deal. For someone who's deprived of happyness all his life, for him the highest goal is to be happy. But for someone who's in bliss and exstacy everyday, for him the highest goal is to go cease to exist or beyond life and death, or dissolving all his karma and becoming a limitless existence. You would understand this if you knew what Mukti means. It's much more then a fancy nondual experience.

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