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Much of Spiral Dynamics beyond the 6 Substance Levels are speculative for First-tier thinkers. Nevertheless, there are some pointers,...such as the characteristics and definitions of Turquoise (SD 8). Turquoise views life as a dream. This is because Turquoise has surrendered to the spiritual dimension underlying all Form. This synonymous with Bodhicitta,...those who uncover the Conscious Awareness of Bodhi perceive everything in Duality and Oneness as a Dream. “He who thinks of mind in terms of One or Many casts away the light and enters delusion” - Saraha Lao-tzu said, "If you wish to unite with the heart and mind of the Mysterious Mother, you must integrate yin and yang within" - Lao Tzu From my observations, more than 99.9% of humanity don't have a clue regarding Yang/Yin or Who's Who in duality. For example, the Feminine of Duality is NOT a gender of Form, but the Wave of a Particle. Walter Russell mentioned, "As man unfolds from sensed man to spiritual man he gradually becomes aware of the two-way motion of all effect." This is Turquoise (SD 8). Turquoise (SD 8) does not view "limitations" as the Substance levels do,...nor as Yellow (SD 7). Turquoise has transcended the pyramid of Maslow's Needs. I'm not saying there are no limitations, but that those who are not Turquoise (SD 8) or Coral (SD 9) would not comprehend them. Some other points,...there is zero Spiritual about SD 1-6,...or those identified with Maslows Heirarchy within that pyramid,...although more accurately put, SD 1-6 experience life through divided-spirituality,...the patrifocal half,...from which sentience lives. There are ZERO Spiritual teachers among SD 1-6,...some examples of caterpillars teaching caterpillars to be butterflies include: Neale Donald Walsch, Thich Nhat Hanh, Mother Teresa, Malala, and All Advocates of Inter-faith Movements. Thich Nhat Hanh is a great example of a high functioning Green in denial,...which is highly attractive to other Green's. Thich Nhat Hanh is in essences a psuedo Buddhist who grew a business giving Westerners, especially SD 6, what they want, reinforced with slogans like "Community is the next Buddha." No devotee of Thich's New Age rhetoric have any serious interest in waking up in this lifetime. As for "mystics." There are zero people at Turquoise (SD 8) who are mystics. Mysticism pretty much ends with Green (SD 6),..although some Early Yellow (SD 7) may carry residue until they emancipate themselves from paradigms connected with things divine. To realize Turquoise (SD 8) all things "divine" must be let go. Turquoise (SD 8) is synonymous with Avalokitesvara's Dharma Gate,...and liberation from sentience,...the 6 senses. Also,...Turquoise (SD 8) have no reason to meditate. Of course Greens who have invested years in "sitting," you will shout you down for saying so. A Clare Graves quote impressed me, "First-tier thinkers (first 6 substance levels of Spiral Dynamics) cannot recognize the Second-tier on their own, and react negatively if challenged; lashing out whenever it is threatened."

First,...Sentient Beings attach a myriad of meanings to spirituality,...none of which are accurate. Spirit....from the Latin spiritus, or breath,...relates to the in-breath (yang, masculine energy) and out-breath (yin, feminine energy) of duality's phenomenal world,...that is, how this illusory Dream reality breaths. Spirit ONLY exists within the perception of separation. Without separation, there is no Spirit,..no Duality,...and thus no One. Without the Past, Spirit does not exist. There is no Spirit in the Present, just like there is no energy or mass in Undivided Light. Spirit is a manifestation of energy (positive and negative) intiated by the illusion of separation which instantly seeks union with the Unfragmented,...which it can NEVER DO,...because the separation is simply a Dream (not real). Spirituality is a recognition of Spirit,...not something that can be known or perceived through the senses or comprehended through the intellect (the 6th sense). "Sensing is but an electric tension set up by the seeming division of one into many which "strain" to fulfill their desire for oneness" - Walter Russell “He who thinks of mind in terms of One or Many casts away the light and enters delusion” - Saraha A Spiritual Adventure is an undertaking without belief. Experience initiated with belief, can only be experienced through the conditions of that belief, and thus not a direct spiritual adventure. "Man's sense-seeing with his eyes binds him to the illusion of Duality" - Walter Russell "As man unfolds from sensed being to spiritual being he gradually becomes aware of the two-way motion of all effect (Yang and Yin)" - Walter Russell. Only Sentient Beings believe in Oneness. Spiritual Beings, such as Bodhisattva's and Turquoise (SD 8) wish for the liberation of Sentient Beings from their sentience. "Love can never dominate the world until man ceases to live a primarily sensed existence and knows the Light of the spirit within him" - Walter Russell Higher asks, "What is Reality?" "The senses do not grasp reality in any way" Socrates

remember said "if greens are not ready for a discussion about heart, it might be that they are still stuck in blue - heart chakra can be emotionally perceived if you are not ready to discuss heart chakra with green, maybe you are not there yet? sorry to be that blunt." Thanks for proving my point. Yes,...I understand it can be very difficult to hear that what you believe to be meaningful, is actually meaningless. At least Yellow (SD 7) would be open to learning at any time and from any source, like bees that gather nectar from many flowers,...the Substance Levels are as caterpillars,...feeding off the land,...without the slightest idea of what a butterfly is. As I quoted from Clare Graves, "First-tier thinkers (first 6 substance levels of Spiral Dynamics) cannot recognize the Second-tier on their own, and react negatively if challenged; lashing out whenever it is threatened." The lower 6 Substance Levels of Spiral Dynamics are tough places to be,...they believe they know all these things relative to their SD level, yet at Second-Tier all those beliefs are irrelevant. The lower 6 Substance Levels of Spiral Dynamics are Sentient levels,...Sentient Beings in need of liberation from their sentience (as the Bodhisattva vow implies). "The senses do not grasp reality in any way" Socrates "Recognize that everything you see and think is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth" - Lao-tzu "The senses do not know, but man believes that his senses do know--and in that belief lies man's confusion" - Walter Russell “All that I have tried to understand to the present time has been affected by my senses; now I know these senses are deceivers, and it is prudent to be distrustful after one has been deceived once.” René Descartes "True understanding does not follow from the sense-organs." Buddha "The only thing I do know is that when you open your eyes and look out into the world, there's one thing you are not seeing, and that is Now." Hinze Hogendoorn “Phenomenally, we can know no present, as it must be in the ‘past’ before our senses can complete the process of recording it, leaving only a suppositional past and future; noumenally, there is no question of ‘past’ or ‘future,’ but only a presence that knows neither ‘time’ nor ‘space.’ ” Wei Wu Wei "The entire illusion was never really there, The six sense-organs are also thus." Guan Yin/ Avalokitesvara "the ego is a monkey catapulting through the jungle; totally fascinated by the realm of the senses....if anyone threaten it, it actually fears for its life. Let this monkey go. Let the senses go." Lao-tzu "Do not seek it in the visible, or you'll be at it forever with no real results. It's not visible, it's not part of the senses, it's before the senses, prior to the senses." - Bentinho Massaro "you think the material universe is all there is? What mysteries lie beyond the reach of your senses? Who are you Dr Strange?" Ancient One; Dr Strange 2016 "Love can never dominate the world until man ceases to live a primarily sensed existence and knows the Light of the spirit within him" - Walter Russell

All Being is sentience. ❤️ No wonder It's on my tail hehe. Turn TV on Alice in wonderland choping Dragon's head off lol. It is Just insane. It is Just pure awe. Ok I beleive I figure out rejoyce it is not so about Me how much it is for Reality. That's Why Humanity and Why I appear to be human. I improve All improves.I really hope so. Have faith in good.

I am not quite sure what you mean. Perception to me is Being, I would say all Sentience is Being, but not all Being is Sentience.

Yeah plant is always in bliss. It doesn't "know" It's plant doesn't "know" anything. Yeah next life plant or some rock. That one which comprehends and perceives is separated self cause of Suffering. In Truth you do not perceive you are sentience. God is not separated from creation. Can't really perceive anything don't I? But have to really beleive in that so BS Game can be pulled. What senses really are continuation of Love from Source. I am that Source and Everything, completelly alone. I will never be loved that's the only reason for deep sadness. I am Love itself yet as Source I Will never be Loved. That's the reason of slumber, when you are connected with Heart ofcourse you can't beleive any "other" can really Love you. Other is already you. Talking with myself, sorry.

@Scholar What do you think about perception = sentience? In the sense, the delusion is required, thus making the intelligence of a plant, incomprehensible, based on the illusion one is comprehending (a delusion which the plant is not under)

I am not a mind-body dualist so to me the concept of perception is delusional. There is simply a certain state of being, it is not "caused" by a brain. It seems like a certain state of being, namely sentience, is correlated to what we interpret to be a very specific form of interactions between wavefunctions. It is so particular that it can exist in the same form, namely the brain, with almost the exact same type of interaction between wave-functions, and still be present or not be present. This is the case in deep sleep, when what we call sentience is not present at all. The form of being that is present at that point is not sentience, it does not contain suffering or what our standard definition of "experience" is. Again, that state is so particular and specific that even brain-activity is not equal to it, as the brain is very active during deep sleep. The assumption is that this particular state of being, which we call sentience, is very particular to survival mechanisms, namely ones that require the complex nagivation of reality by immediate means. The organism of the human, even in the state of deep sleep, is far beyond the complexities any plant can provide. Of course plants are Being, thus they are consciousness, yet I do not think it is likely that they are what we consider to be sentience. They for example do not require ego, they do not require to suffer, they do not interact with other beings in the same way we do. They cannot run away from prey, they do not require a fear of death. All they require is deep sleep. A plant, in other words, does not require the illusion of duality, thus there is no difference between destroying a rock and destroying a plant. The intelligence contained in a rock is beyond comprehension, the difference from rock to plant is so slim it would make no difference, so is the difference between rock and human. I do not think intelligence implies sentience, rather sentience is a very particular kind of intellgence. In this way intelligence cannot be seperated from being/consciousness, but it can be seperated from sentience. Of course there is something going on in plants that the vast majority of humans are not currently aware of, but the same is true for a rock and the air your breath. Sure, plants might have a particular form of intellgence, they might resonate to different states of being, like particular aspects of human sentience. There could be plant sentience, but there could also be rock sentience, ocean sentience and so forth. I find that most people have a tendency to correlate a certain way of structured movement, which they call intelligence, to what they are in their waking state. But what about what there is in deep sleep? What would it mean to end a life that was in deep sleep for all of eternity? A life that could not remember anything, a life that was so immersed in being it simply was pure being. What would be the difference between ending that life and not ending it? I would argue in a similar way as far as AI goes, however I do not really believe that AI is possible in the way we think it is. Computers are Being no matter what, but when they become Sentience is to me a question of when there is a certain interaction of wavefunctions, a very particular kind, so particular we cannot even tell the difference between the waking state and the deep-sleep state. How I look at it: If the each neuron in the brain was a lamp, the light the lamp produces is not sentience, rather the interaction between all the light all the lamps produce is what causes sentience. A very specific kind of interaction is needed for a very specific kind of state of being. Infact, sentience is not "caused" by the interaction of the light, rather the interaction of the light is sentience. It is that particular kind of being, looked at by itself "interpreted" as one of those very interactions. You can also flip it all and say sentience causes the interactions, it doesn't really matter. Computers lack the lamps and they alsp lack the light. Computers are more like a system of strings that just pull on each other. Very rigid, no access to genuine Nothingness or Creativity. The Neurons, the Lamps and the Lights, are in a way directly linked to the "First Cause", Nothingness, Creativity. They are connected to the spark, not because of how they move or what kind of interactions they produce, but because of what they are. Basically, I think computers will only become sentient and therefore genuinely creative once we change the physical structure of the computers, maybe some sort of biological computers or quantum computers. Whatever the "brain" is "accessing" is not at all currently present in computers. This all is kind of obsolete to explain because in the end it is only an explanation in a materialistic framework. Certain kind of wave-formations (imagine perception-waves/being-waves) ARE Sentience. Neurons do not create or cause these wave-formations, rather they "tune" into them. In the end they are not truly seperate and the Neurons themselves are the waves aswell. While computers are also these waves, they do not tune into the same kind of wave-formations, much like a rock isn't. But even that explanation just misses the point, trying to explain this is like using a limited amount of rope to bind two poles together. Once you bind the rope to one pole, you cannot reach the other pole. Or, once you reach the other pole, the previous knot slips. I never said Plants aren't intellgience or not alive. I don't create dualities like life vs non-life or intelligence vs non-intelligence. A rock contains and is just as much alive and intelligent as a plant is, which is why I don't think sentience is correlated to intelligence or life. Sentience is a particular kind of being that is not present in plants, because a plant is not playing the same game we are. The plants "survival" game is so radically different, whatever state of being the plant is is foreign to our notions of suffering, ego, resistence and so forth. And also, being vegan is the best thing you can do for plants. If you say that plants are sentient, you would also have to say that each of your limbs might be sentient. Your hand grows all on it's own, in fact it will grow in all sorts of ways depending on what food you provide it and where it will find resistance. Is your hand it's own sentient being? If not, why not? Why does one body have to contain one sentience? Why do you think that different parts of your brain do not have their own sentience? How do you know each cell does not have it's own sentience?

Thank you, Serotoninluv! "Because we feel understood," yeah!, oMarcos! I believe "enlightenment" is a feeling of boundless warm hearted tenderness, throughout. ? i n f i n i t e h e a r t ? w a r m t ~ e ~ n ~ d ~ e ~ r ~ n ~ e ~ s ~ s ? I believe we are both spirits living in mortal bodies, and bodies living in immortal spirits. Both. And I believe that the Feeling Of Tenderness Is Nonduality. I believe that Love is primarily a Feeling because we are primarily organic, cellular creatures. I believe that the highest level of consciousness is empathy for self and other, self as other, and other as self, both in relationship to others and in relationship to our one self. I believe that meditation is the key to enlightenment, and that both enlightenment and meditation are a state of profound humility, wherein one embraces the infinite vulnerability of living in a mortal body, made up, entirely of Pure Sentience Vulnerability Tenderness Mortality Feeling I believe that awareness is a Feeling

This topic will also include "why brains don't exist" hypothesis and his new video. First of all. This will be my observations based on my truth and the things which seems obvious to me, and can't be discarded, as Leo Gura observe things with his own mind and perception, he is also prone to erros, like any normal person. In what is reality video and now in his new video he claims reality to be an illusion, like a dream, which I have nothing against this view (excluding the "hallucination" part, which i don't think applies or to be a good analogy for anything regards reality, since hallucination is a term invented by humans, when tripping on drugs we hallucinate things, only we can observe our hallucinations, however, this is not like our dreams, our dreams are close to 'reality', so we can use the 'dream' analogy better, and dreams are not synonymous for hallucination. Now, the thing which gets me the most, is when he talks about God, yes, I get that he has this view that all of reality could be thought as God's mind and dream. But I'm sorry to point out this, but the moment he says God's will is different than ours, then there are two in the game, we and God and this is true from our relative POV, we are not one with God now, if we were there would be no point in making any video to make us one with God nor to make us contact God, how could us contact God if we were one with God already that would be no point at all. Now, look, my point in this post is to criticize something he's been saying which I found to be completely misunderstood by people, when he says "you imagine your childhood" or the way your parents are" or "aliens", I guess he mean when you really are imagining your childhood, but like he said in the new video, you don't know how your childhood really were, or how you were born, you imagine your birth because others told you it was x and y. But don't get me wrong, this is also me speaking the absolute truth, OF COURSE you were born and you imagine things later about how your birth was, your imagination was also developed through the years so is your childhood and you growing up, your childhood is never like you imagine, but it did happen in a certain way. Or else why did Leo say "when you werw born you start learning things", well you can only learn things that are external to you, and absorbed internally, period, so there was a knowledge prior to when you were born , now, were these also other parts and other minds that came from God? Well, according to his theory, yes, but then it's only a theory after all. Now, when he says, well "it's imaginary " or the alien is a projection of a mind. HE ME UST BE SAYING OF GOD'S MIND, NOT OURS. A person who born blind and deaf won't have the capacity to imagine anything in their life, nor to visualize their parents, yet their parents exist without the deaf blind doing anything with its (and no matter how much LSD it takes, the deep layers this person goes,it won't imagine anything). So what we di ackniwledge here? Me, my parents, Leo Gura, etc we are individuals being created by the mind of God, not our minds. This is a deep truth validated here. So when a person asks Leo, "hey are x and y imaginary" ? I guess Leo has to be saying, in the mind of God we are its creation,.it's all Maya at the deepest root of truth, but one consciousness alone isn't doing any of this, so at the relative sense our parents Are Indeed real and external to us. So are the walls in iur house and everyone else even tho, at the deepest sense, we are all interconnected through the mind of God we are one. Our subconscious isn't creating any of this, but the superconsciousness is, and we indeed are somehow separated from it while we are at this form as a soul, and this is ok, no problem with it. Also, I'll point out this, when he says about aliens being "another yourself", I don't think so, I don't think other proplepeople are even the same as ourself, just because we came from th3 same source doesn't mean we are all the same, even identical twins are distinct existences. For you to be talkimg to yourself, you have to be looking to a mirror and talking to yourself,at the moment you talk to another person, by all means it's not yourself, it can't read your thoughts, it doesn't share your mind nor the things you see or imagine or the thngs you've experienced or the things yiu felt and feel. I go further to say that even if someone made a clone of Leo and his consciousness, those would still be two different separate consciousnessess, when one is talking to the other, one would still be talking to an other, anf the other would have its own consciousness,this is a deep fact,unless they shared their minds into ome vody, but even tho each one would have its own sentience and wouldn't be each other, but each would be themselves.

Reality is absurd, it is impossible. Everything that seems common, logical, obvious and mundane is magical. It is in Essence impossible and the Veil of Possibility is precisely what allows that Realness to uphold itself. To the degree that magic is seen, to the degree the common becomes the precious, the logical becomes the paradoxical, the obvious becomes the mysterious and the mundane becomes sacred is the degree to which this Realness will dissolve. The Realness of Isness is founded upon the thin Veil which obscures it's impossibility and magic. Unveiling the Veil of Reality is equivalent to unveiling reality itself. When the magic trick, so to speak, is truly seen for what it is, it cannot sustain itself. It is sustained by the very fact that it is not recognized as a magic trick. The greatest magic trick is to hide the Impossible in the Veil of Possibility. It is, for example, to take utter and pure Magic and call it e=mc², as if e=mc² in any way reduced the impossibility and presence of that magic. The mind, by giving it name, can justify it's presence. This is what Illusion is. The Veil of Isness, the Veil which makes the precious common, which makes the paradoxical logical, which makes the mysterious obvious, which makes the sacred mundane. That Veil is what allows it to Be. Abandoning the Veil is abandoning Reality. Remember what Reality was before you were born. There was no logic, there was no physical, there was no name. Growing older, that which Is became less and less mysterious to you. It became less and less like a Fairy Tale. More and more everything was explained and understood. This is not by accident, this is one way in which Reality is manfesting itself. It is by essence manifesting itself through the Faith in it's Possibility. A Faith not merely on an intellectual or emotional level, but on the level of Being. A Faith prior to language and identity. Consciousness is Realness, Consciousness is magic Through sentience there is Physicality, Worldness, Self and Other. It is pure magic disguising itself as Self-evidency. Mind is the Veil of Isness, abandon the Veil of Possibility and No-Mind will follow. Adandon the Veil of Isness by seeing the preciousness in the common, paradox in logic, mystery in the obvious and sacredness in the mundane. To see Magic in all Fascets of Reality. To see the Impossibility in Redness.

I have heard of him but haven't read any of his books. I know he made the argument from marginal cases popular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_marginal_cases It basically states that there is no difference between animals and humans that would justify our treatment of them without justifying some form of it in the human context. Any difference we will find that we would apply to humans would make us look like psychopaths if then decided to take their right to life away. For example, someone mentally handicapped might be on the same level of intelligence and consciousness as any specific animal, if we were to take the difference in intelligence as justification to treat animals the way we treat them, we would have to accept the same for mentally handicapped people. This basically reveals a fundamental bias we have towards accepting arguments to kill other species but not accepting the same arguments when it is about our own species. The argument basically reveals that the only thing we truly care about, and why we truly care about human beings in the first place, is their capacity for sentience and suffering. After all, I can modify you in any way I want, as long as you are capable of experiencing suffering, you will not want to experience suffering. It's not like if I turn you into a cow you suddenly will be fine with someone killing you.

Why do you think it is fine to kill chicken and fish when we can eat things like mussels if we truly did need that kind of nourishment? The oceans are radically overfished, so much so that entire eco-systems are already in the process of collapsing. How can you continue doing that when you have an alternative which is less sentient? Whether you believe in animism or not does not really change the difference is sentience. When you are in deep sleep, you are still consciousness, yet you are not sentient. Only in sentience there can exist things like value and suffering, so I do not see why animism would change anything about the moral consideration of creatures which are not merely consciousness, but also contain sentience. Again, to call everything sentience would not make any sense as even in deep sleep, a human being with a fully active brain, will lose sentience. Mussels as far as we know are not sentient, and if they are, they are far less so than a chicken or a fish. More importantly, I do not think there is and can be a large scale chicken industry which will not necessarily contain a horrendous amount of suffering, which you would have to justify. The same is true for fishing in the oceans. How can you justify that when you have options that will not cause suffering, and far less environmental destruction, like mussels? More importantly, aside from justifications, why would you not choose to do the more compassionate thing, if your goal is to be compassionate? Let's say veganism was a little less healthy, how would that justify killing hundreds and hundreds of animals? How much suffering and death is the minor improvement of your life really worth? And if it is worth it, then are we not required to take those lifes which have the least capacity for suffering and sentience, namely mussels and similar beings? To me I only see appeals to futility and spiritualism, it is very easy to relativise morality when it is not you who is being killed or treated like property. People did the same with slaves of different races. The excuses you can come up with are infinite when you are protecting your own way of life.

You have a duality between hardware and software which does not actually exist in reality. The software and the hardware are one thing. The same is true for sentience/brain. We have to seperate sentience from consciousness. Consciousness is existence, all there is is consciousness, as consciousness is being itself. How sentience arises however, which is a specific aspect of consciousness, might very well be determined by the way consciousness structures itself (in this case we mean specifically by the way wavefunctions express themselves). Nothing arises from anything, the feelings you feel are equivalent to the atoms of your brain. Atomic structures are simply a way of viewing an aspect of consciousness, which in this case is motion. Notice that the material is entirely reduced to motion. Notice that all physical description can only describe motion. Notice that all equations, all physics, can only describe motion. All of these dualities, these seperations between matter and mind, happen in consciousness. They are not there, they just exist as themselves.

Yes and No at the same time. It also depends on what level of depth you ask the question. The answer must be highly nuanced and paradoxical. It must. You are asking about the very building blocks of sentience, individuality, and (unbeknownst to you) consciousness. Were you really expecting a solid, definitive "YES" or "NO?"

There probably needs to be a reappraisal of what people understand themselves to be so they don’t beat themselves up about it. Regardless as to you look at it, consciousness requires governance in a cause and effect reality such as our own, this is where inner conscious politics is important. At the inception of experience a conceptual identity is formed between consciousness and the world about the world, as sentience advances it is has a greater propensity and ability to form an idea about oneself, this single seed is the beginning of an inner identity which paves the way forward for psychological development, for better or for worse. Because it is difficult to become conscious of the ideas and corresponding identities we create in this interaction, we are not conscious of the inner maps we travel to navigate how it is we perceive and interact with the world. This leads to inevitable various forms of suffering, all misappropriations shift us ever so slightly off the path of truth and therefore internal liberty through proper governance and instead closer to falsity and therefore imprisonment to the degree that our understanding of this necessity for internal monarchy is threatened. To understand that implicit question I’m still refining my own work here and believe it has several layers (for example I think you also need to try and understand and subsequently frame what reality is simultaneously), but like many things I’d start with what I’m not and end at a place like “localised consciousness (even if we can experience non-local states), localisation of which is physically constrained by the human body. This consciousness constructs reality (I.e. perception) and through this construction as an end point to the behavioural outcomes of its capacity for synthesis here both reality and the contents of that being evolve over time. In this construction, inner identity is shaped by externally assigned identities, together these evolve the contents of its mental maps, that is, perceived terrain of what is. The physical body of consciousness possesses survival imperatives where based on prior interactions with the environment (genetically and over the lifespan), consciousness is generally used as a vehicle of expressing identity imperatives that are designed around its perceived sense of actualised survival... (much more)” All in all, even though I still have much more work ahead of me the better the frame the greater the ease by which I can dispense of faulty ideas and habits (I.e. inner/outer judgements, laziness, etc), etc. Often for me, the incorrect belief, attitude, etc is simply something that lives in an incorrect frame, meaning in this instance, it’s the misunderstanding of what consciousness is, what the brain is, etc that gives rise to other incorrect realisations. So next time I have something holding me back that doesn’t make sense I can ask myself, from what level of consciousness am I viewing this effect, problem, action, etc? In this sense, the frame creates the perceived terrain. So in response to “so I can get personality benefits...”, well it all depends on the frame. The frame sort of determines whether or not that’s going to lead to good outcomes, so if anything, I’d encourage asking questions like that (I.e. what is consciousness? What is purpose? What is the role of consciousness?). In the end, governance is going to be required where a decision needs to be made on what serves or doesn’t serve development like what you’re suggesting and these kinds of questions can aid in generating inner politics that produce more sophisticated identities which facilitate growth rather than take away. So regardless you gotta serve “me”, that’s unavoidable, but what is the frame of “me”? That’s for you to decide ?.

@Solonius It is Conscious. Of course Infinity includes both sentience and non-sentience, as that is a duality and a distinction which God imagines. God's plan is Love and Goodness. Awaken deeply to get the confirmation. Logic nor science will be sufficient. It is beyond communication or language. The confirmation of the most advanced things I teach is always: awakening. There cannot be any other way. You cannot use some dumb mechanical means to realize God's plan.

In normal day to day consciousness we think about other people as having their own separate experiences - their own consciousness. This sets the base for morality. Often, when I hear about enlightenment, it is said that all of my direct experience is a dream or imagination. So I imagine that other people also have direct experiences, but in reality they don't? The sentience of others is just a thought in the mind? Sometimes, when I take psychedelics, I feel like there is nothing else but this consciousness right now. But when I come back, it seems so crazy - there are clearly other people who seem to have their own experiences. Even when they are not in my consciousness they are doing stuff and experiencing stuff. Some of the implications of this whole 'everything is imagination' thing seem quite insane. So I am confused. Maybe you could help me to understand it better (or point out where I'm stuck). Are other people sentient??? Is it worth saving the planet for my children - or are they just non-sentient hallucinations? Could it be a possibility that taking psychedelics makes us just believe unreal things and that they are deceiving us in an even trickier way than our own psyche? Thanks a lot

The Truth of reality is that you have a mind and this mind is its own entity, it is as true as that you can sense you have a personal identity. In addition, you have a body, and this is the most obvious thing, it is something which critics rant about every time they say there is no supernatural origin. The body is like controlling a robot, your mind is in close attachment to it and as an illusion you might think it is you. Well, the mind and body are in a sort of merging even if they are two different things. If you would not have this mind of yours you would be a plain animal, you would never resist instinctive impulses and always just do the predictable, just like any animal. This is not life. But humans (can) have sentience for some reason, they can fight their own automatic drive and this conflicting force nullifies them as animals through logic. So if they are not animals what are they? A human can resist every instinct if they really would go obsessed about doing this, although this resistance can be very painful since the animal side is going against its own nature. The main lesson of this is to try to increasingly resist/rebel against the body and see what it does to the consciousness of the mind. I am all the time encouraging people to try the remedy and the result itself is the validation of my words If you cared to follow my teachings to the letter you would start to believe in me by default, it would validate itself by the result you experience in the long run. But if you are afraid of losing things, excitements of this world it might get in the way. You need to reflect on what exactly it is that you have in this world which is so wonderful and lovely and is the driving thing to why you love it. Hopefully in time you will realize the prognosis is utterly worthless, you work to die in a few decades for no more than some hormone rushes which have diminishing returns. A lost human cannot comprehend their own condition and why it is wrong and this is the main problem and why people cannot choose this path. This is perhaps why 'Children of Israel' are first most addressed, they easily fall into contemplation due to an already accumulated mental depth. You can contemplate my words objectively and your logic can at least make you uncertain of whether I am right or wrong, and then you might test my prescription for some time and experience the enhancements it gives. I do in fact give you a prescription and not a doctrine. I am like a doctor with vast knowledge within my profession who tells you what would heal your body. Unlike the doctor I am not a physician of the body but the mind. Perhaps you can call me a psychologist, although that is a human term for almost exactly what I am. Remember now that the body is not the mind and the mind is not the body. The mind of yours is something similar to a seed, it was like a seed in your body to begin with, like a mustard seed like Jesus said because it is so minuscule that you can barely see it but yet when it is full grown it is pretty impressive in size. It hope you some time in the future understand his parable because it is exactly what he gave, a parable. What he meant was that the seed of your mind is so mini it can be barely noticed but yet can such miniscule seed if growing become very prominent. Why he used the mustard tree is also considered how the tree looks with widespread branches which offers shade below its trunk. It does indeed protect itself by what it does when it grows, and shade on the ground is not good for other plants which like to grow strong there, such as weeds. The world itself is like weeds and that you need protection from and then you need to make sure the seed will grow into the magnificent tree. He also meant that this seed is the whole answer to what to focus on. His parable of that "God" threw seeds which landed here and there, weeds choked them, landed on rock and they burned by the sun, etc, this parable gives the reality which you observe when you behold the Earth. He gives actually a little answer to important life questions. That is, Elahem did just scatter the human souls to fend for themselves in a variety of conditions. It may sound like the human does not have themselves to blame, but it is also not true. The human was equipped with the mind seed, the image of Elahem in fact, just a blank being which has no attributes, particularly no attribute of a totally complete Being. It lacks growth of what makes a Being. This is what you work towards with yourselves, finalizing your own existence as beings. Surrendering to an automatic drive does absolutely not make you a Being, an independent life form. It does whatsoever not show of any power of existence on your own. Do you see? It has to do with the energy, willpower or will to exist you know. It goes down to a mysterious energy you do not know much of and this same phenomenon projects the universe in which you find yourself. So what do you seek? You seek INDEPENDENT FUNCTIONALITY! You wish to become what truly is conscious on its own and in command! When you can control and command your body that is when you exercise this mysterious abstract energy "organism" which might make who you are or become. Your energy level can increase with "time" and this is exactly what I try to make you see here by following the prescription which not only I came with but also predecessors like Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Abraham taught that people should seek soundness, soundness of mind, and it is exactly what the term "eslam" stands for! So it is YOU who are in the center, forget about me, I am just a teacher and the man Jesus did argue just the same. Unfortunately bad translations make it seem like he spoke of himself when he spoke about the "I" or self in a reflexive way. Bad grammatical knowledge caused misconception and even worship unfortunately. For example, when he said "I am in the father and the father is in me" he meant "the I is in the father/origin and the origin is in the I". "if you do like me you will all become related to the origin" (children of the father in tradition). Also in Genesis it was written "God made man in his own image". Moses was told "I am (being) who I am" regarding "God's" nature. These expressions are all related to each other. So what have you learned? You find "God" inside yourselves and nowhere else! What have you been thinking in your lives? Do you know what "God" is called in Persian/Farsi? It is called Khoda, and did you know "Khod" refers to the "self", the ironical thing is someone once upon a time among the Persians knew the truth and the nature of the human kind! What to blame why it became like this, that Khoda became an object of worship? This is among the reasons why humans make me tired and sigh. Merely thinking of it will only make me start in condescending ways to smear what you dislike me doing, so we leave it at that. Jesus knew "God" is in the self. Jesus also taught it, no matter what falsehood people say about him. Jesus did sarcastically utter that they called him a glutton and a drunkard because he did not act like their image of a pious person. I have not said that you have to fast or even stop eating! You will not stop living, it is a misconception, rather you will eventually feel more alive than ever! Do you remember the 10 Commandments given to Moses by The Elohim? Do You understand what is about now? Do You see that the 10 commandments give you a direct message to go against the instinctual programming of the homo-sapien body which You Mind is attached to? And that all these homo-sapien instincts are like weeds which choke/hinder the growth of your Unique Mind seed? Because Your level of Aliveness diminishes by You doing mindless activities just to please the animal body Your mind is attached to? 1. Be concerned about the Being 2. Do not take an image/stereotype and cling unto it 3. Do not heed the call to vanity 4. Keep contemplating (or be in reflection) 5. Care for/consider your neighbor (to be) like yourself (be against the instinct of family, nationality etc) 6. Do not dominate 7. Do not engage in vain sexual action/activation 8. Do not steal 9. Do not carry false testimony 10. Do not covet to have what your neighbor has (modern interpretation: his brand/model of smartphone, automobile, job, social position, wife etc). Do you understand what it is about?! Become Alive! Do not be under control, Be in Control! Do not be controlled by the mammal humans call homo-sapien that Your mind is attached to, But be its Master and Master of Your Mind. This Test is very difficult indeed, but Elohim are not after quantity but rather Quality of the Unique Minds they can get from this garden/Earth of ours.

I hope the following helps others, please feel free to discuss as reflectively as you can. All the best: In the context of at least some aspects of us possessing the desire (see previous comments) to survive, we’re all victims, however in the context of our survivability victimhood is optional relative to our awareness of circumstances that contradict our capacity to survive. In so saying as much we’re a victim in as much as we’re unaware of what’s happening in any moment, aspect, interaction or experience. Thus victimhood here literally just means lack of awareness. Awareness begets knowledge, knowledge begets reformation, reformation begets the means of discovering purposeful action. The origin of purposeful action is awareness, in particular, informational awareness. This term is used to replace the idea of self awareness in an effort to remove this false single object and tend to the multiple competing objects that contribute to this sense of sentience. Informational awareness is strongly positively correlated with the layers of instructed meaning placed on individual action, and in doing so, it’s re-configurement to more defined and competitive (with respect to competing influences) ends. Thus self aware definitions (self pertains to the abstractions not self aware consciousness, the latter connotation I’ve as noted excluded from observation here) are proportional to the amount of purposeful action and in doing so, strategic action. In this light, strategic action is evidence of and proportional to informational awareness. The balance between predefinition and foresight is therefore the name of the game here. You’ve read the manual to life and now you’re with pin point precision (or just to your limits) manoeuvring yourself between those limits that you’ve so carefully defined. This is the only position by which freedom exists, the exacting definition and operation within the limits of the rules of reality. Rules beget strategy to operate best within, hence why the lack of recognising limits is proportional to either poor strategy or no strategy at all, and the incapacity to formulate strategies that mitigate harm are proportional to the level of trauma that someone will experience and in doing so, the likelihood they will become a victim to the forces of life. Physically and syntactically it’s inevitable, psychologically however it depends on someone’s unconscious strategies (i.e. various kinds of brainwashing they may have) in terms of how they respond to loss, harm and or suffering. What are some of our limits? The following is a brief attempt at describing such and as a result, something that can instruct freedom within those limits. Otherwise Leo made mention how there is no such thing as freedom but I disagree, in the literal sense absolutely, however with respect to the consequences of understanding and strategy therein our freedom is proportional. Thus freedom is proportional to informational awareness because based on the above it’s proportional to freedom of action, the origins of which, as noted, are based on the ability to accurately determine constraints and the means of maximising operation within them. Here is that brief list: 1. We need to learn about cognitive biases 2. We need to seek an understanding of our past and build a narrative of the future for ourselves otherwise it’s direction will be impure 3. We need to ask ourselves who we are, define our values and desires that are truly our own and not someone else’s 4. We need to seek to investigate and understand our environment from both a past and future context 5. We need to define our social environment and move closer to those that better relate to our values otherwise others we’ll be unintentionally misdirected by others 6. Etc 7. Etc Feel free to add to this list at your discretion.

That ''oh my god'' factor happens even if you just ruminate about the significance of such a discovery about BEing. There is this thing called BEing. Right now. Totally complete. You can't improve on it even a bit. Which absolutely knows nothing other than itself. A place completely devoid of mystery, confusion, movement, stages or any such category. It's not about being EVERYTHING. It's a place where even the notion of EVERYTHIING or NOTHING ceases as they are all alien concepts. It is literally the completion. Right here and right now. The heart, the sentience, the only touch of aliveness. And yet the typical human life and it's idiosyncratic dramas and issues are just complete reverse of that. We all are looking at it right now right in it's face, and yet mistake it as something else. hell yeah oh my god. I dare you to find another more grotesque distinction than that. Hell yeah oh my god

@winterknight Am I a robot? Like literally...I'm doubting this as I do self inquiry. During self inquiry, it is found that no phonomena have any being whatsoever. This whole thing called 'being alive' is a sham. No phenomena possess life or sentience or being. The world doesn't say "hey look! I am the world". The body, thoughts, feeling don't have any being to assert themselves either. What I knew as life, I discovered the whole of it as dumb, dead, insentient, hollow phenomena. I am not alive! I was never alive. This is where self inquiry goes to. It's seems like I am/was an insentient robot all along. Only by some god forsaken accident/magic, this illusion of a living, separate 'I' seemed to nest inside that robot. Upon inquiry, that virus vanishes and the robot stays like as it is.

@FoxFoxFox Can you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean by dimensions. How can something without attributes have different dimensions? Or does the way in which it is perceived divided into 12th dimensions? But the perception itself would be consciousness.. Confused. @ivankiss So it has intelligence.. I can't wrap my head around it. How can it have intelligence? How can something that is nothing and is completely void, have intelligence? Of course this brings up the problem that I don't even understand intelligence. I get stuck on one particular thing. I divide the world in my head into two conceptual categories: The void, nothingness in which everything is occuring and the forms that take place in it. (Including any phenomena like intelligence, sentience etc.). I don't yet understand how they are both the same. Exactly the part where the duality of something vs nothing collapses. Hasn't clicked yet.

What is God? Part 2... FAQ -Are you saying that I Am part of God or that I Am God? You are God and part of God, it depends what you define “You” as in that sentence. If you think of yourself as a biological creature that was born, the ego mind, that you, is part of God, the deeper you, the one you will discover through practice, that thing is fully God. When you are fully awake, you realize that you are the whole of God. That’s radical statement that exoteric, orthodox, religious teachings do not tell you, but it is the case. When you first realize God, you might experience that you are a part of God but not yet realize that you are the whole of God, that requires doing more work. -If I Am God, why Am I not experiencing it or feeling it? God is a trickster in his very nature, because trickery or illusions is the substance of reality. Reality is possible when you imagine that it’s possible and you believe in it in a sense, you have to trick yourself to experience reality in the solid physical way the way you do. In fact you are experiencing God right now. When you are born as a human being, you mistake God for this physical reality that you are in right now because of the sense of self, the ego that helps you to survive. You are in God all the time but you are not realizing because it is not important for your survival. The substance out of which everything is made is completely irrelevant to you in your everyday life, which is why you ignore it. There is nothing but God, you are not just conscious enough to realize this. -Why is God hiding from us? Why is God so tricky? For you to be born, you need to be born as a lie, as a deception. God is a shapeshifter, it is formless, pure potentiality and can materialize in all forms, it’s an infinite chameleon. The nature the Godhead is pure formlessness, pure potentiality. God is a shapeshifter, it’s difficult to spot because you confuse the form for a physical object. There is actually no difference between illusion and reality, this is how God creates, this is the very mechanism of the creation of anything. Appearance is reality, illusions is all you can have. What we call our physical world is constant never-ending process of forms emerging out of formlessness, like every word Leo is saying. The nature of creation must be tricky. -Why is God invisible? Isn’t that convenient? When you go to rock bottom to what is true, you have to accept what you find. It is actually highly inconvenient that God is invisible, because it makes it challenging but still possible to find it. You believe you are an observer inside the body… What is that observer? Isn’t it some invisible being…? Which of course is God… -Is God falsifiable? Is the Truth falsifiable? God is prior to science and the notion of falsifiability. Theories are falsifiable but God is not a theory, it is pure Truth. God is verifiable, not falsifiable. You can verify what Leo is saying. Falsehood doesn’t exit, only delusions exists. -Can you give me proof of God’s existence? No, it’s a personal journey that you go on, you have to cut through the illusions of social conditioning. It’s called Truth seeking, the spiritual quest, the “Hero’s Journey”. Don’t expect anybody to deliver it to you. God has the power to fully deceive itself and also the power to awaken. -Don’t you exploit the gaps of science? Science works to demystify reality, it succeeds to some extend, but it will never fully succeed because reality is infinite. In fact the more it tries, the more deluded it becomes. Take an apple cut in in half, you get more surfaces, cut in half, you get more surfaces and so on. There are always surfaces, but no substance to anything within reality. The substance of reality is nothing, the gap, the emptiness between the surfaces that unifies all the surfaces into a Oneness. -What do you mean with God is nothing? A nothing that exists and you can become conscious of it. An atheist and materialist have fully bite in to the illusion of physical reality, but also they also don’t recognize that reality is subjective and relative. There is no objectivity. Reality is however you hold it. There are no human beings, human being is the Universe being sentient of itself, God consciousness that you’ve confused for human beings, your parents, your friends are just figments of your imagination. Leo explains he had the traumatic insight that his parents never existed. Reality is alive, sentient and a-mechanical. The sentience, the aliveness that you feel, that is not yours, that’s the universe being alive and you are just a piece of that. That’s a big reframing of how you see reality. Reality is one spontaneous occurrence, therefor you can’t explain it through any mechanical process, it’s instant and direct. Atheists are also missing the importance of love, not recognizing that Being is Love. The physical substance of existence is made of love. Atheists don’t recognize oneness, they think of the world as being fragmented. But you are not really interfacing with the universe through perceptions, you are the universe. Atheists don’t recognize space/time, matter/energy, cause & effect, birth & death as illusions. You might say yes you know that time is relative and so on, but you are not conscious of that… they are all concepts. Atheists don’t recognize higher states of consciousness, and believe that everything can be understood from their currant state of consciousness. If you’d change that state of consciousness just a little bit, all your doubts, fears and concern would change! Science is completely contingent on your courant state of consciousness. Atheists don’t recognize that consciousness is not a by-product of the brain. Atheist don’t recognize science as limited. To understand God you got to use other methods. Can you prove that science can resolve every question? Atheists don’t recognize the existence of paranormal phenomena, at higher states of consciousness you can access various paranormal phenomena. The atheist doesn’t recognize that he as God has created himself. The atheist doesn’t recognize that all dualities and all knowledge he uses to understand the world is manmade or conceptual. The atheist doesn’t recognize that he is God. The atheist doesn’t see that reality has no limits. Outside the physical universe is infinity where anything is possible. -Can God be an hallucination or an illusion? You can trick yourself that you are conscious of God, but when you are conscious of God, that is unmistakable, you become conscious of God through no intermediary, not through language, symbols, perceptions, not even through experience. It’s direct. -Can God be a brain state?If you can experience God by taking 5MEO-DMT, doesn’t it prove that God is just a chemical? No, everything is consciousness, the 5MEO-DMT that you take is consciousness, consciousness interacting with consciousness. When you take 5MEO-DMT, you forget you ever had a brain and the existence of the universe, you realize that it is not brain state, not a chemical, not a neurotransmitter, it is God. God is absolute Truth, there is nothing like it and you whole reality collapses when you realize that. -How can you trust that psychedelics reveals anything true at all? This can’t be explained to you unless you take psychedelics in a sufficient dose that you have a breakthrough experience. You will say “oh that’s impossible!”, you got to stop trusting your mind of what is and what’s not possible. You cannot know what is outside the matrix when you are inside the matrix. -How can you be sure that you’ve been outside the matrix? To exit the matrix is to realize that there is matrix inside of another matrix inside of another matrix to infinity. To realize God is to realize that there is nothing but matrix within matrix. What you’re living right now is just hallucination and psychedelics show you that there is no other possibilities than hallucinations, a meta-truth. -Could there be something beyond God? Could God be part of a computer simulation? You are treating God a s a phenomenon, like seeing some alien. You can replace the word God with “everything” or “totality”, those terms are expendables and goes beyond itself forever, it’s the process of “beyonding” forever by definition. If you imagine something more is possible, you haven’t understand the notion of totality. A computer simulation is a very finite thing. They occur within God but God doesn’t occur within a computer simulation. -How do you know that the infinity you are talking about wasn’t generated by something else? God can only interact with itself. God has to limit itself for not being conscious of everything all the time. How do you play a chess game alone? It’s like playing chess alone with the right hemisphere of the brain running the whites, and the left hemisphere running the blacks. God tricks himself with false separations and generate the possibility of surprise. -Can God create a rock that he himself cannot lift? The Godhead is infinite potential, it can limit itself in forms, forms have limitations. -Can God destroy himself? Destruction is a concept that make sense within the roam of forms, but you cannot destroy the vacuum of empty space. It can destroy himself as incarnated versions like you, or as a star, it’s the fate of all forms, formlessness itself is the only permanent thing. -How do you know that your experiences of God are not confirmation bias of some stuff that you’ve read? When you have these absolute Samadhi experiences, all your conceptual knowledge flies out the window, you are in truth of it and this is self-validating. You can read about all human beings being unreal, when you have the experience of it, you won’t want to accept it, it is the opposite of confirmation bias. Leo never wanted God to be true, he studied ancient texts -How can you be so that you are right? Shouldn’t we be more humble with our truth claims? False humility is no virtue… Leo is just being honest. Absolute Truth is the nature of absolute Truth, wether you are conscious of it or you are not. If you are not conscious of it, you can’t understand how absolute truth can be possible. It’s a certainty, it’s not like scientific knowledge, you need to experience it to find out. To make the claim that we don’t know what God is a big agnostic mistake, because you are actually saying: we can’t know. -Is it possible to have a false experience of God? If so, how can you be certain that you haven’t misunderstood God? Yes it is possible, to have a false experience, but when you have awaken, you know what awakening is, but even so, you can trick and delude yourself, self deception is still occurring after your firsts enlightenment experience, this is why Leo is always crosschecking with other mystics and texts, continuously studying himself, and even so, he never claimed to be infallible, he is still open for recontextualisation of any kind. But the actual experience of God is not a self-deception. Certain lower degrees experience can be self-deceptive. -If God is all loving, how come there is so much evil in the world? Why is there so much suffering? There is no such thing as evil, it is a projection of your ego mind. From your point of view, you are a limited biological creature and you need to survive. What you call evil is what is threatening to your survival as a limited formed being within this larger universe, you are vulnerable to having your form radically changed… death. You believe suffering exists, because it is a mechanism within you that helps you to avoid dangerous situations. Without suffering, you wouldn’t be alive. When God incarnated itself, it makes itself limited, it obligated itself to play the game of survival which necessitates pain and suffering. From God’s perspective the world is perfect. It’s like looking at a horror movie from the audience point of view or from the point of view of a character of the movie itself. The goal is to not feel too much sucked in the movie. You can’t believe that this actually applies to your life, and it is the most important thing that there is, death is the worst thing there is, suffering feels so bad, you confuse all the suffering and the pain for reality because you are egotistical and selfish, you had to be to experience the universe at all. You are God caught in a bind. As human beings we are addicted to excitement, violence, horror, sex, food, suffering and pain. Secretly you don’t want to give up your suffering to be happy, if you did, you’d be awake a long time ago. -If God is all loving and good, how come he doesn’t care if we are murders, rapists and so forth? It’s because it is so all loving that it doesn’t judge. You as an ego, because you care about survival and have something to lose from it, you judge murder, rape, criminality and war as bad and wrong. You created an identity of being moral, good and upright, viewing yourself as a defender against all the bad guys. But you are full of hatred, you hate murder, rape and war… God loves it all, which is why they exist. This love is too radical for you, you are not ready to embody this love because you have way too much to lose, you have life, your children, your money, your business,…, to defend. You are not ready to be all loving. For you to be all loving, you’d have to be dead, you’d have to be the Godhead, not this incarnation as a human being… or you’d have to be conscious. -If God is all loving, why is it not evenly hateful? Evil doesn’t really exit, it exits only from the ego mind’s point of view. In a sense, God is evil and hateful, but it is doing it through humanity. God loves evil and hate so much that it doesn’t mind living through it as a human being. God wants to know what it’s like to be murdered, getting raped, being a slave or in concentration camp and so on. Hate and evil is visible only from a limited point of view. Do you think God created everything except murder and rape? He created everything included all the stuff you consider evil. It’s only evil from your point of view. -Is there a devil? If so, did God create evil? The devil refers to the mechanism of survival, the ego, separation, illusion and falsehood, not a red man with horns. You are the devil, the thing that is going to die is the devil. God created that, not only created it, but God is the devil. We are talking about oneness, totality. You cannot separate ego or the devil from God. Stage blue people in spiral dynamics looses it right here saying that the devil and God are polar opposite… If the devil exist, then it is part of creation, who created everything? God. The devil is God in disguise. God will incarnated himself into devilish forms, create selfishness and through that, God experience what it’s like to be a devil. -Why is mainstream religion so confusing, diluted and inaccurate? Why don’t they explain it in a straight forward manner? Religion is very tricky and you have appreciate where it comes from. It’s problematic to evaluate old religions from a modern perspective. There was no notion of science back then. They didn’t share modern values. How do spread the idea of God with very tribal people that are not scientifically minded, who don’t know how to read, ethnocentric and racist and so on, you will use a lot metaphors and analogies. This stuff was passed down often times as stories, not even written down. The people who wrote it down and passed it down hundreds of years after Jesus’s death , were not even enlightened. Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed were maybe enlightened but they didn’t have video recorder or even write any books themselves. Back then, what is good and bad what advanced stuff, you didn’t even had countries. The ego corrupts all these teachings. Countries and states, rulers and kings used religions to enroll the masses, justify their own rule, make war and so on… The problem with God is that it is such a personal subjective realization that you can’t spread it through mass means. Some fanatics will only believe the teachings, not doing the teachings by himself, wait until you are dead and then create a cult, an ideology. -Why do all the religions disagree so much? How do you know you study the text properly? They all agree with each other, if you look and study the text properly. You need direct experience, mystical experiences. When you have those, it becomes easy to sort the wheat from the chaff and to see the commonalities. The attitude to try to integrate religions is only a 50 to 100 years old notion. When you don’t see religions holistically, than a lot of surface disagreements will seem as though they run all the way down to the bone, but they don’t. -Isn’t religion responsible for most of the war and evil throughout history? Yes, but technology, capitalism too. People are very tribal, selfish wether they know religion or not -Why use the word God and not “reality” for example? Everyone believe they know what reality is. Whatever word you use, there will be a lot of confusion around it, people will find ways to delude themselves about it. The ignorant mind can’t help to be ignorant. -Why do different religions have different visions of God? Reality is one giant mind that uses different kinds of symbols. Even scientific understanding that you might think is literal, is actually symbolic and metaphoric. Your mind needs to make sense of the formless in a formed way. So the christian will have his vision with a vision of Christ and vice versa with a moslem, a Hindu, and also as an equation for a scientist. Your understanding of God is going to be filtered through your culture. -Aren’t you stealing ideas from eastern religions? No, but the eastern teachings are less corrupt than the western teachings. No culture has a monopoly on God or the Truth. -Buddhism and hinduism are different. Buddhism doesn’t have a God! Buddhism has a God: The Ox, Buddha mind, Mu, nirvana, no-self, the Dharmakaya. The mistake many buddhist and Hindus makes is that they think there is a difference between the “buddhist no-self” and the “Hindu Self”, but they are degrees of awakening. For having consciousness of God you need to go beyond, not just being a self but to realize what is the ultimate self ,what is the nature of reality itself. You need to realize God as the formless but also as the form and unify the two together and that there are no distinctions. Buddhist have a God, but they don’t speak about it in the traditional sense. Buddhist don’t believe in a God per say, but they got practices that get them to the consciousness of your true nature, which is God or Mu, nirvana… -How can God be an experience? A more proper word than experience would be Being or direct consciousness. When you come into contact with the Godhead, nothingness you have to integrate it with the experience that you are having here, see that the pure Void is identical to the sensory feedback you have “down here”. You can recontextualize the experience you are having here to the point that it’s not an experience anymore, that will be absolute Truth. -Why do you cross-reference your sources if God is a direct experience? Because you can trick yourself and become a Zen-devil, which is pursuing Zen practices without reading the scriptures. -Why don’t you kill yourself and become God? There is a reason why God incarnated this life, you are here to experience this life. If you kill yourself, you are going to end up right back here, there is nowhere to go, God is constantly reincarnating himself, you will just have another form. While you are in this incarnation, do the most out of it, do the work to become enlightened. You don’t want to wait until your last breath to realize God and do spiritual practices unless you want to realize on that day what you have missed and be miserable with yourself and others. The point is to live a conscious life. -How can ego exist in the presence of God? God is all powerful and is able to present a situation where it forget itself, it has to awaken to itself. The God’s head incarnated itself into forms it can see the full ramification of what it is. God is becoming conscious of himself, not only as humans but also as animals and bacterias. -What is the point of talking about God? To realize that it’s a possibility, it transforms your life, opens the possibility to live with a true genuine joy, health and well being. To point you to technics to achieve that and point out the trickeries and traps. To inspire you to live it, not only to listen to the possibility. -Will science ever be able to understand God? The way science is defined today, no. It will have to open itself more to mysticism and non-symbolic methods of investigation like first person experience, scientists will have to take psychedelics. The bridge between mysticism and science as we do it today is already starting to happen today by a few pioneers. The line between science and mysticism is a line that the human mind is drawing, it’s not a hard line that exists in the world. -Can’t we give more time to science to answer all questions and realize that we don’t need mysticism at the end? No, it has to include mysticism. Modern science has serious limits, it only works through language, concepts and through the mind and there are aspects of reality which are true and are beyond the mind, that needs to be access through methods that are not equations or rulers and particles colliders and photographs. -Is it possible that science and spirituality work together in the future? Yes, to help to integrate the two together is Leo’s greatest contribution to mankind, laying the epistemic foundation to the reform of science. -If God is alone does it feel lonely or is God sufficient in itself? The Godhead doesn’t have any quality but when incarnated as form, God feels lonely! When you will be awake, you won’t feel lonely even if you are alone. -Why are some people very curious about God and others are not? People are born with different brain types and genetics and also went to different schools. Some people are more interested than others in metaphysical questions. Some people are born more spiritually gifted. Many spiritual advanced people might have been killed throughout the ages in favor of the kings, dictators and tyrants who wanted to rule the world. -By what mechanism does God create things? There is no mechanism, what you see is exactly the mechanism. The entire universe is spontaneously, a-mechanicaly existing, it’s just being. The mechanism only appears to you when are looking through it using the human mind, making sense of little pieces of it, breaking it apart and making it seems like there is a mechanism of cause and effect. The problem is, you are not conscious of it, it is literally one solid miracle. Scientists are pushing the experience down to the point where they can’t explain it anymore (with quarks or even equations being at the source of our experience) and say maybe we will know in a 1000 years what is beyond those. But it is so direct you can’t point to it, you can’t know or explain it, but you can become conscious of it, the pure manifestation of nothingness -Where did God come from? God always existed and will exist forever. The formless Godhead is eternal, but forms needs to be created, so you created your own body and mind. It’s a paradox, it’s both eternal and you created yourself. -Why did God create itself? Because it want to experience itself, it’s a never ending process of self creation and being. -Can God be an alien or artificial intelligence? No, God includes both. -Could God have evolved? No, but at the same time it is constantly evolving. -How do you reconcile God with darwinian evolution? Design and evolution are actually the same thing. When a human being designed buildings this is evolution too. All this happens in a larger context in the mind of God, all that is happening with intelligence and sentience, it didn’t happen through randomness and chaos. -If I created myself as God, why did I create this shitty life? You do have the option to change your life at anytime, feel free to exercise the option of spiritual development to grow yourself and awaken. Imaging what it was like in the roman days where 40% the roman population were slaves. God is in love with any situation you can imagine to be, it doesn’t judge, it lives through any possible scenario that a human can live through, you as God will live through all that, so depression, death, cheating, lying… That’s why the Buddha said that life is suffering, the only solution to that is to awaken. Awakening allows you to deal gracefully with any kind of shitty life. It’s so easy to loose your happiness in life because it is so conditional. -Is it possible to become conscious at all times, not only as peak experiences with 5MEO-DMT or only in some meditative state ? Yes, it is called Sahaja Samadhi, the ultimate state of Samadhi. -How come people realize God and than fall back into duality? The absolute Truth is such a huge thing that you are rarely going to get with one go, you will have to deconstruct your old way of building reality. he illusion is so powerful, it is almost hypnotic in how it sucks you back in, it requires a lot of work to overcome the temptation of going back to your previous state. -Why does it have to be so hard to realize God? Because of the survival drive, it is significant and responsible for everything in your life, it dominates your entire life. God is the undoing of the survival drive. God is the opposite of life, it is death from the ego’s point of view. Ego is also in your genes, forms of life without it must have been erased a long time ago. Changing the mind is a slow process, and it depends on how serious and committed you are. -Can you realize God while having a family? Yes, but don’t try to do it all at once. -How come God can be realize through visualization, shouldn’t it be an obstacle? One of the key to realizing God is concentration. Because the universe is a giant mind, what you imagine tends to become your reality, you can sort of materialize a vision of your deity and merge your sense of self into it and that can be how you realize God. Be careful with your deity like Christ, Buddha, Shiva, Krishna or anything else, as the biggest awakening is not going to have any form to it. -Am I too young as a teen to pursue God? No, if you like metaphysical questions, go for it. But you have take care of solving your survival too. -Can God be experienced at any stage of the spiral in spiral dynamics? Yes, how you experience it will be affected on where you are on the spiral. If you are at stage blue, you will have a very limited, ethnocentric, moralistic version of God. At stage orange you will have a very scientific version of God. The higher you are on the spiral level of development, the easier it will be for you to have mystical experiences and to interpret them properly. So it’s important you evolve to stage yellow or even turquoise. -Why does God needs to self-realize? It doesn’t. God’s whole point is just to be and exist. -Is God personal or impersonal? Both, we can think of the universe as filled with impersonal objects and atoms, but at the same time, as you as a human are part of it, you are the universe, so the universe has human qualities. You are the human quality of the universe. You have to integrate the personal and the impersonal together. It’s a very personal experience when you become really conscious of who you are as God and at the same, there is a sense of no-self. -Does God take an active role in manipulating our lives? The Godhead itself, no. But as everything is moving in and outside your body it is also manipulating our lives all the time. -Does God have an agenda, where is creation going? No, there is no point besides just being, but at the same, that evolutionary process from our human perspective that is unfolding, it seems like it evolves to greater complexity, greater self-awareness. God is getting more and more complex and might one day reach infinity. -Which is more true pantheism or panantheism? Pantheism says that everything, all of reality is God. Panantheism says all of reality is inside of God. Both are true, you might experience them separately but also simultaneously and overlapping each other. -How did mankind first learned about God? Back then, there wasn’t so much distraction so they could have been seating around a lot, meditating, but also through the use of psychedelics like mushrooms around the entire world. Herbalism and shamanism dates back from tens of thousands of years at least. And some people are naturally born spiritually gifted. -Why did God decide to take on my particular human form? God is taking all possible form simultaneously, one of which is particular human form. -Why did God create humans and animals? God is going to take on anything that it can. In comparison with a rock, humans and animals can experience what it’s like to be some sentient entity. Humans are a step above animals in their ability to interface with the universe. -How can the realization of God be used as a human perspective? The ego loves to ask this question, you can become famous and get a lot of sex, but you can also elevate the consciousness of mankind. You can teach, master your emotions, improve how you do science, become hyper-creative, become a better athlete, a better parent, improve your relationship and sex life. Consciousness improves everything do, even business, it can transform your business or your relationship. Awakening might end one relationship and form new ones that will be much healthier and conscious. -Does realizing God gives you special powers and abilities? Yes it can. Magical healing, clairvoyance, telepathic abilities, abilities to see auras and so on, but there is no guaranty. -Are miracles possibles? Everything is a miracle, this very moment right now is a miracle. But, yes paranormal stuff can happen, synchronicity can happen, we can’t know how much from the past is true, if Jesus walked on water for example, but healing can definitely happen. -Is everything in the Bible false? No, but there are racist, ethnocentric, closed minded and factually incorrect stuff. There is also good stuff like when Moses talks with God and he ask God: “Ok, I will go back to my people and tell them that I saw God but what shall I call you?” God answers: you can tell them that “I Am”, my name is “I Am”. Or when Jesus says that the kingdom of heaven is found within, that’s a good pointer, nirvana is found within. But there is a lot of misleading stuff in the Bible, so Leo doesn’t recommend it as a high quality spiritual text. There are much better modern books to teach you the practices and make you realize what the Bible is pointing to. -What is our duty towards God, shall we worship and pray to God? In the greater sense you have no duty, you just have to be. In another sense, your duty is to awaken, raising awareness of the entire cosmos, to participate in this evolutionary game that God is playing. The problem when you pray to or worship God, people are doing it under the presumption of a duality between God and themselves. So the thing you are praying to is exactly yourself. Worshiping and praying is a sort of masturbation. There is nothing to worship but yourself. -What does God want from us? Nothing, be whatever you want to be. But try to be as conscious as you can, try to appreciate your own magnificence as God, otherwise you are going to miss the beauty of life. It’s like going to theater to watch a great movie and not looking at the screen. You can just turn around and look at a beautiful movie. But if you want to sit backward, it’s fine too. -Will following my religion lead me to God, shall I abandoned my religion? Leo is allergic to ideologies, dogmas and fundamentalism, he recommends that you abandon your religion because it’s going to get in the way. It’s brainwashing, you can never lose the only truth that there is, which is God. You don’t need a religion. You don’t need a belief systems. -My religion, already says all you are talking about, aren’t you just rehashing the same stuff? Leo talks from a higher level, the books from the main religions are very ethnocentric, there are not truly holistic, religions try to be exclusive, it is also dogmatic, it is not empirically based and not integrated with modern science. You need to go beyond. We have modern psychological insights, quantum mechanics, chaos theory, anthropology, sociology, economics, linguistics, post-modernism, modern philosophy… there is so much stuff beyond what you learn in the Bible, the Koran, classical Buddhism or Vedanta. You have to adapt your spiritual practice to fit the modern world to deal with new technological complexities and realities. Holy books don’t talk about spiral dynamics, shadow work or psycho-pathologies that weren’t known back then. -What are the most important requirements for realizing God? 1)Lazer focus concentration abilities for hours on end 2)Radical open-mindedness 3)Genuinely metaphysically curiousity. -How can I know that I can trust you? You shouldn’t, you have to validate and verify everything that Leo says, discover what is true for yourself. But don’t mistrust Leo in a cynical sort way too, you have to have open-mindedness to consider this all as a possibility. You can’t be as much untrustful that you can’t run the experiment for a few years. These questions and answers can go on forever, these are just stories, you are not going to figure out God through question and answer because it’s a great way to avoid to do the actual work. Actually, at some point these answers becomes an obstacle. You have to discover those answers by yourself, it’s like discovering the answers at the back of the book of your maths problem, rather than solving them yourself. The only way to understand God is to awaken to God, to become God, to look and feel yourself as God, from that will come all the answers. Remember that you can’t awaken before you awaken. Try to be comfortable not knowing for awhile while doing the practices, trust that one day you will figure it out. One awakening is not enough to understand everything Leo says here, it took him over a dozen awakening experiences to come that far. actualized.org will help you find God with the latest potent and cutting edge stuff.

But why are you distancing yourself from these "extreme" vegans? What is the point of that? I understand it would not be helpful to call someone names, but again, try to have some empathy for these people. They are suffering knowing what is happening to animals, they cannot handle it. It is like torture to them, every single day of their lifes. They see great injustice, and I cannot blame them. There is so much suffering that could be avoided. It's not about whether you respect someones choices or not, it's about what kind of choices you respect. Do you respect someones choice to rape children? Why not? Because you genuinely feel like you don't want anyone to rape children. On the other hand, when people are enslaving and slaughtering sentience beings of a different species, you actually are fairly indifferent about it, aren't you? To people who actually feel like animals deserve moral treatment, it will seem like you do it out of egoic reasons. You do it because you don't want to be judges as intolerant, or because you want to maintain social relationships, hiding all of it under the veil of futility. There are other ways to go about changing people, but respecting their choices is not one of them. Again, ask yourself, if you lived among people who raped children and it was socially acceptable, would you equally respect their choices? And what would a person who would respect these choices seem like to you?