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You are also gesturing towards a new and different type of cognition that can process info and reason in completely alien ways , right?

@jimwell you're thinking too much. Definitely not an alien, thats the human condition. You want to quiet your mind and look for who/what you really are right now, but that wont be conceptual Human/Alien answer, but will be the experiential I before any thought.

I'm only in my 30s but I have already embodied this worldview. Damn, I'm really an alien.

@Carl-Richard Finally someone brings this real topic! I would like to know if you are living such current reality of no control at all? In the past I was going far through such path but I had to stop because I thought I was doing something wrong. It just feels crazy and completely alien to society. You basically can’t fit in anywhere by chance. could you please expand more on this because the line is really thin between such liberation and total insanity in the bad sense. How would you even survive? Keep a job? Etc? How do one understand such path if that’s even something. I had to stop because I was about to leave my job, university and while even living with my parents the stress was real since they thought I was crazy and did not understand. Sadhguru has scratched this topic saying that you need control so you don’t go mad. I think he fears fully letting go and created and ego again through magic or tantric means just to perform since I once perceived hidden anxiety in him by holding hidden veils just as I had to do so I could perform into society expectations for the sake of survival. Did you experienced dissasociation and depersonalization? Some say this is a problem and others don’t and that it’s part of the path. I experienced in the past and it was liberating yet crazy and had to force a stop through karma gluing. This path is serious since it triggers the real matter of the dark night of the soul which is an extensive theme that go through different stages as you evolve and expand your consciousness. You will continue having different dark nights until fully avatar. The dark night manifest through different forms and dimensions not just feeling lost. It can manifest even through chakra problems of energy leaking and past life karma surging up that you are not even aware of and don’t know how to handle. Or past life karma congestion when surging up that later manifests as disease.

My body is ready : https://www.ign.com/articles/fxs-alien-earth-renewed-for-season-2

Everyone talks about enlightenment, shmenlightenment, and blah blah... But what's the point of infinity if we can't use it? Why doesn't this "Infinity" grant us Power? Truth gives Power, but first, the destruction of old illusions, and that's painful, hahaha. - "Why do I need AI if I'm personally involved in science? I can teach it some interesting things myself. When you contribute something original, something living, that's a sign of Life, or call it God, that's Awakening. When "energy" manifests through you naturally, like dance, like inspiration, like improvisation, from the depths of your soul, when your role is natural and organic, without any conflicts, spasms, or convictions—right/wrong, good/evil... It's not just "energy" manifesting itself, not how it flows and blah blah, but you Yourself ARE IT." - . Is there a P=NP millennium problem? Positive proof would mean that many practical problems, such as creating drugs with predetermined properties from the start, and individually tailored to each individual, could be solved. Moreover, it would impact genetics, both DNA analysis and protein modeling, to a superior level, because currently these problems are considered intractable and require significant computational resources. And this is all literally, not even metaphorically, a drop in the ocean; all these problems are NP-complete. If it's proven that the proof of P=NP itself is beyond axiomatics, meaning it's neither provable nor refutable within the framework of current mathematical logic, one option would be to introduce William Hude's measures (actually, not only, but let's just take one for now). These measures have an interesting property: strict insufficiency. What makes the unbounded "bounded" is that it reveals hidden structures, seemingly expanding the potential used, and also ensures reliability in logic that is new, not trivial. For example, one solved Millennium Problem, the Poincaré-Perelman theorem, indirectly proves that our world is not three-dimensional, but at least four-dimensional. This is within the framework of proof by logic (and this is very important in reality, not just as a direct experiential argument, because it can be used to one's advantage). He also discovered new methods such as functional extrema and singular flows. Moreover, a promising point of view is their use in the design of complex technical systems. Any Millennium Problem is potentially PRACTICAL. But the P=NP problem stands apart because it immediately opens literally fantastic doors. But there is one BUT. Like algorithmic randomness. Our mind is essentially an archiver (in the language of information theory). Archiving is data compression, and only structural, rhythmic, and predictable data can be compressed. Chaotic things are incompressible in principle, and our reality is incompressible, and no program can describe it more briefly than it does, that is, archive it, and therefore it is truly random. What appears orderly appears mundane, and what is chaos can contain the most profound information, but the mind is powerless here. For example, you download two audio files – one is your favorite song, and the other is the incomprehensible hiss of an old radio. You run the archiver – the music is compressed to 500 kilobytes, but the white noise of the old radio remains almost unchanged. Why? A song has structure, repeating rhythms, chords, a chorus. The archiver sees patterns and replaces them with shortcuts, like memory saying, "This has happened before, just repeat it." But there's nothing recognizable in the noise of an old radio; each fragment is unique, unpredictable, as if Nature itself rolls the dice with every sound. The archiver is powerless, "I can't make it shorter." Compression is a search for meaning. If a file compresses, it means it has order, structure, repetition; if not, you're looking at pure randomness. Everything that can be explained can be compressed; everything that can't be explained remains as it is. And the archiver is a small model of the human mind—it searches for patterns, tries to simplify, explain, systematize, and when it can't, it seems to say, "This isn't my limit, but the limit of the world itself." And almost everything in the universe is uncompressible; this is a mathematical proof—there's more chaos than order, order is the exception to chaos, randomness is the norm. Sometimes the most complete formula for describing reality is Reality itself. For centuries, science has been pursuing the same goal: compressing the world. We seek formulas to replace long descriptions of reality with short ones. Science is the art of compression. We believe the world obeys laws, meaning it can be described more simply than it appears, that behind the apparent chaos lies a "hidden code." But not everything can be coded. If a "string" is incompressible, that doesn't mean it's "noisy"; it means no explanation will be shorter than the string itself, even the most ingenious. And the laws of nature aren't fundamental truths, but the most successful archives of reality—we've found a way to compress part of the universe, but not all of it. Our minds work in the same way—it tries to pack chaos into explanations, but somewhere on the edges of consciousness, chunks of data remain that can't be compressed. Science has always believed that behind the complex lies simplicity, but the opposite is true: behind the simple lies complexity, which no formula can contain. Is it possible to compress the Universe itself? Imagine our entire world as a gigantic hard drive the size of the Cosmos, with everything recorded on it—every photon, every particle, every thought…? Could this gigantic file be replaced with a short program—a Theory of Everything? Option one: the Universe is deterministic, it has a simple formula, the laws of physics are a compressed version of reality, we can describe the past and future if we know the initial conditions—the world is a gigantic program, and we are processors executing its code. But there's a problem: the formula explains HOW, but it doesn't explain WHY these specific "numbers" exist. There is no answer. These parameters are simply GIVEN as unchanging chunks of an incompressible string. Option two: the Universe is completely random. There is no code. All laws are merely temporary coincidences; each event is unique, like billions of incompressible strings scattered in the Vacuum of Existence. Such a world is impossible to understand. It doesn't repeat itself, it can't be explained, and essentially defies our logic; it simply Is. This Universe is meaningless, yet this is precisely its True Meaning. Option three – the Golden Mean. The laws of nature are a compressed portion of Reality, while the initial conditions are incompressible. The world has structure, but not the Whole; it's partially explainable, like a file where the header is readable, but the rest is pure noise. Most physicists believe precisely this; the laws are understandable, but the input data itself is inexplicable. And here's where the real mental nightmare begins – it's impossible to even prove that "something" is incompressible. If we found proof, it would itself be a program that shortens the description, meaning it would already be compression – a contradiction. The conclusion is that we will never know whether the Universe is lawful or random; it's simply an unsolvable question. We are the ones desperately trying to compress the infinite file of reality into a short, human-readable code called Understanding. Algorithmic randomness is the wall that human and artificial intelligence collide with, the SETI program and alien signals... Order is simplicity, and true randomness is when no explanation is shorter than Reality itself. The Universe doesn't have to be understandable, and chaos isn't the enemy of order, but its integral part. Each of us is also a "string" whose true length is greater than any attempt to explain ourselves in words. And if someone wants to "compress" you into a formula, you must remember that what is most alive in a person is what cannot be contained in any program. And the irony is that Ideal Order and Ideal Chaos are seemingly the same thing. The brain and perception—the human brain is also an archiver—seeks out repetitions to conserve energy; when they don't exist, it calls it noise. But sometimes, it's precisely in this noise that new information can be hidden, one that can't yet be compressed. We respond to art, to music, to random details because we sense a balance between order, which can be understood, and chaos, which cannot. The world becomes beautiful when it is almost, but not completely, compressible. Algorithmic randomness is not a paradox; it is information about where reason ends and the inexplicable begins. The world is ruled by Infinite Beauty in all its Meanings and nonsense. Truth = Beauty, and that's precisely what your "soul" craves.

I would ask this guy, he done 11 days. I done about 3 - 4 days on a few occasions throughout my life. Definitely some psychedelic experiences, different from psychedelics tho, almost alien in a weird way, more like alice in wonderland style or amanita ish...

That's where you're going wrong. Get some female friends and acquaintances in your social circle, simply for the sake of building a robust social circle. Every person should aim to do that, imo. Hanging out too much of one type of person can be a bit socially stunting. So, if you only hang out with other young/youngish guys, it's going to make you disconnected because that's a very specific social bubble. And operating too much in that zone will make interactions with women feel alien and awkward... or as purely agenda driven. And as a perk of creating a more robust social circle, some percentage of those female friends and acquaintances that you interact with will be interested in you. Honestly, too many guys on this forum are sleeping on the benefits of having a strong and varied social support system... and some of those benefits include romantic benefits.

It's a harmless belief. When the moment of truth comes I will adjust my position accordingly. One good argument why it's not an alien spaceship is that, if it was, we'd already be sending nukes to it, lmao.

I agree. A good way to look at it is container (structure, construct) vs consciousness. Religions and government structures (democracy vs monarchy) are containers - that the peoples conciousness within them is distinct from. Although there is a relationship between the two also. So it’s not about the doctrine alone but about the development of those engaging with it. Some containers are perhaps better than others at elevating our conciousness - because some containers have more trappings than others. This is why non-duality and actualized (Leo’s body of work) is better at elevating conciousness - it just has way less trappings than religion does. For example in Islam the idea of jihad (struggle) or in Judaism - the chosen people. Both of these can be approached form a lower or higher place. A lower conciousness turns jihad into ISIS and the notion of chosen people into candy for the ego. A higher conciousness turns jihad into struggle against ego/impulses and chosen people into a burden or responsibility to embody good virtues. These trappings are higher risk than a neutralised scientific approach to spirituality which has less baggage, words or ideas that can be conflated or confused. Osho actually did this and said it was his intention - he spoke from a higher place on all the world religions. He drew in people of all walks by doing this, and then he went onto the next step and said to even drop those containers (religions) and approach spirituality without them ie more scientifically. But like I said to breakingthewall - there is a place for both the scientific approach to spirituality, and the art of spirituality which is more colourful and localised to where people are from. We don’t necessarily have to drop our identity - otherwise how do we culturally “belong” with everyone around us without feeling alien. We need to synthesise the two approaches and view the scientific approach like a formal universal language and the artful approach like a local cultural language. In other words transcend the container but live within it - the same way we’re told to be in the world but not of it.

If Alien Minds are true then why the NASA is not talking about them?

Maybe old-school Disney. Modern Disney is full of woke ideology and shits out stuff like Tron and Alien Earth. Corrupt money grubbing leads to the endless turd factory of their latest catalogue.

So, I recently watched Leo's video about not knowing, and done the exercises in the video. I experienced the state of not-knowing very deeply to the point where I was looking at the tree and I could see my mind putting labels, giving explanations what that object is. But past all the labels and all the mind clutter, the tree appeared so mysterious sow weird, I would call it even alien, I couldn't grasp what the fuck is this thing. Actually it kind of scared me a bit because I felt that things getting bit unstable. I felt I Can go even deeper but sometimes I Think I might go crazy haha and I wasn't even using any psychedelic, completely sober. I'm not great at articulating exactly what I experienced but I guess that makes sense that explanation. I keen to explore deeper, but sometimes fear holds me back I don't understand where it comes from. Anyways, I've noticed that my mind jumped back into it's regular mode, but there's something different in my background of consciousness, like if I look at the object or something, or a thought, anything basically, I could look past my minds clutter into what actually is, it's there I don't engage in it necessarily if that makes sense. Of course I there's more to it I guess, but that's what I experienced and I wanted to share. a

If my car got stolen, it's likely that it was stolen by a human. But I can't know that it wasn't stolen by an alien, before I gather some more conclusive or confirming or disconfirming evidence.

You would automatically give all credit to the aliens when you lack the ability to come up with a hypothesis. Alien of the gaps.

I dont think we usually have a well thought out epistemic process when it comes to approaching and evaluating these things. But I can tell you one specific instance where I would definitely favour the alien hypothesis over the other one. So when it comes to the Jesus resurrection hypothesis, and him healing people and walking on water and other stuff like that (lets just take those to be facts for the sake of the argument), the alien hypothesis is actually better than Jesus being God. The alien hypothesis is better because you dont need to inflate your ontology with things that are outside of time and space. So if you have a set of things that needs to be explained and one explanation can explain the data without needing to propose new layers of ontology, then you should go with that one over the other (if all else is equal). ---------------- I think we usually lack the epistemic tools so much that we really arent equipped to categorize things in a precise way. I think John Vervaeke is right that some of the imported frameworks we are working with are making it harder or sometimes impossible - so for instance, the subjective-objective divide really breakes down when it comes to categorizing certain entities and issues, and you need to construct new categories to deal with those problems (and sometimes you need a new metaphysical frame for that). And it doesnt help that scientist usually just unconsiously import modern philosophy . Some ways of thinking are so ingrained in us from culture, that you need to spend years to just gain the ability to reflect on those things, because they are completely invisible and they seem axiomatic and necessary - @Carl-Richard's crypto materialism thread just confirms this. Just because you are team Idealism, that doesnt mean that you managed to overcome those ways of thinking. If you cant explicate what epistemic process you go through when it comes to categorizing these things, that should be a good hint that you are doing it in an unconscious manner - and this applies both to scientist and to woo people.

@Bashar its funny btw that you think you are saying something new or something that wouldn't fit in my "worldview". I personally followed dudes in the past who planned mediation retreats in Egypt for spiritual reasons (and these dude werent originally from Egypt). The idea was that you meditate inside the pyramids at a certain time (the time was planned astrologically), and you can have mystical experiences there ( or at least thats what a bunch of people reported who went there) The background narrative is that the Pyramids were built for spiritual reasons , so that you can mediate there and recharge your energies and your aura. They also believed that Thoth was an alien and that the emerald tablets actually described valid things. Just as how this typically works, the dudes were hardcore into conspiracy theories (constellation of beliefs, you can predict most of their views and beliefs on almost anything), but the reports about the retreat were positive and many people who attended reported mystical experiences. I know a lot of random shit like this (including channelers like Bashar and other shit like that), its just that my epistemic process is again not to default to the alien hypothesis ( when I dont necessarily have a good alternative hypothesis in mind). You should be much more rigorous and you should study the alternative hypotheses, or just sit with not-knowing. For the inference gap to be properly filled for the alien hypothesis you will need to do much more work than just "you dont have a good alternative, therefore aliens". Like do you have any independent evidence that the blocks were actually moved by sound or that those aliens were actually on land (without appealing to Bashar or to the Law of One) ?

Ancient alien egyptologists run into the problem of post-hoc multiple comparisons: the probability of finding a significant result is severely inflated when you throw a million spaghettis at the wall and try to see which ones stick. This tends to be adjusted for in scientific studies that use inferential statistics (e.g. Bonferroni correction). That said, if aliens exist, and if the human brain has been basically the same for the last 200k years (and we achieved meta-cognition 30-75k years ago), that's a lot of potential. I think it's plausible that we could've been advanced at least one time before the last Ice Age, but I think the evidence is not conclusive.

@Ishanga any news about his alien energy encounter on the Lake Manasarovar, Tibet near Mount Kailash?

Bashar here. It's actually just an unusual comet. Not aliens. But it does have alien sensors attached to it for study.

I agree. But the steel man of atheism is that atheism in theory is similar to Pyrrhonism. A Pyrrhonians whole philosophy is to suspend judgement. I remain unconvinced of Alien Awakening and paranormal. Does that mean I believe Alien Awakening and paranormal doesn’t exist? No. It just means I will suspend judgment until I have verified it for myself. It is a logical position to suspend judgment and be skeptical about things I have never experienced. If you choose to make a video about atheism, you will want to address this objection. Every atheist I talk to doesn’t want to admit that they are in a paradigm. An atheist thinks it is a form of skepticism but it’s a biased form of skepticism. Edit: Also many atheists will disagree that it’s a worldview because atheism is about just one thing only: A suspension of belief about God. It’s one position on the issue. Of course, for many “atheists” this is wrong because their atheism exists inside of other paradigms such as materialism, naturalism, evidentialism, etc.

Little back story about me and how I even got to Actualized.org. When I was 3 years old, the USA bombarded my city, so I grew up in a post-war era. Because of this, I spent a lot of time in my village that was so far off the civilization (ironically a place called Devil's Town, a place that almost got nominated for the 7 wonders of the world). Not really sure if that's what got me into the spirituality, or the fact that I spent a lot of time in nature in the middle of nowhere (no TV, no technology, no mobile signal, not even street lighting). In such a place, the only thing a 5 years old kid could do is play with wolves, snakes, and think about the nature of existence. The more I reflected on life and death, the more I started to grasp the concept of infinity (see book on Leo's booklist called "Collision with the Infinite"). I kept thinking about the fact that I will die one day, and kept asking one and the same question. What if NOTHING will ever happen again. No more watching beautiful sunrise and sunsets, no more playing with animals, no more playing Yugioh cards, no more playing with other kids, no more listening to music, no more breathing fresh air. Not in one hundred years, not in a billion years, but NEVER AGAIN. There will be nothing, complete darkness and emptiness FOREVER. This was my collision with the infinite, and I didn't even know it yet. Moving fast forward 15 years into the future. I met some random guy on a birthday party who, for the first time, introduced me to the mushrooms, and told me about his experience on 5 grams. Up until this day, this guy has no clue how much he has changed the directory of my life. His story intrigued me so much that I decided to take 5 grams of Golden Preacher. When mushrooms started kicking in, I thought they're poisoned, and I was dying. That was the day when I died and faced my biggest fear, NOTHINGNESS. I ended up in a black abyss of emptiness, and I stayed there for millions of years (despite that trip lasted only 4 hours). That experience was so traumatizing, and it left a huge scar on me. But then something strange happened, something that pretty much brought me to Actualized.org channel. While I was in that black abyss, I got hit by this feeling that this is not the first time I've been here. I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE! As if the dejavu happened to me, that place was suddenly very familiar. And then this thought hit me: "Nothing exists because you haven't created anything yet". Ironically, the Bible's opening line is "in the beginning was the word". And at that moment a light flashed out of nowhere, I felt the sensation of breathing, and the mushroom trip stopped. I finally came back to planet earth, but I thought to myself, these mushrooms are definitely not from this planet, this is some crazy alien shit (and I still believe that). Now, we get to the point where everything goes full circle (there's a good quote on this later on). I told my best friend what happened, and he got intrigued just as I was when I first met that guy at the birthday party. Soon we both started experimenting with mushrooms, until one day my friend took a DMT. None of us knew what DMT was at that time. His trip was so bad, so much that he experienced a complete mental breakdown, and ended up in a psychiatric hospital. It probably took him a year to stabilize. They're feeding him with these pills that literally block the dopamine receptors, and let me tell you, my best friend was like a zombie, a dead body without a will to even get out of the bed in the morning. That's some serious shit. Years went by where I avoided psychedelics because of this. However, I know that I'm on a heroes journey, I want to become a God, I want to know the Truth, and it keeps calling me 24/7. I really want to think that there is no such thing as "destiny", but I keep getting the signals. Every single day when I check the time on my clock, I see a very specific number, a number that happens to be my best friend's date of birth. EVERY SINGLE DAY I SEE THAT NUMBER ON A CLOCK. Everywhere I look I see it, whether it's a graffiti on the wall, or the price tag on the shirt I want to buy. Because of this, I'm planning to take DMT on my best friend's birthday (destiny must be fulfilled I guess). A few weeks ago I took 5 grams of mushrooms because I wanted to ask myself really deeply, is this what I want in life? Do I really want to become God? Do I really want to know the Truth? Is this my purpose? Do I have the courage to go into black abyss again? Will there be light this time, or will I be stuck there permanently (think of the spinning top in Inception that spins indefinitely)? How bad do I really want all of this? Will I loose my mind and end up at the psychiatric hospital? As I was reflecting on these questions, I came to one very important conclusion. It wasn't just a conclusion, but the words that I said out loud for the first time in my life, and I really meant it. I NEED HELP. It really took a lot of courage to say these words, both to myself, and to you. For the past few days, I've visited monasteries, spoke with monarchs, drank holy water... but I still feel that the apocalypse is boiling in me, and that I'm currently a time bomb. This morning I lit some incense and put it in an ashtray (they use them in churches for ceremonies and prayers), and I started thinking about (already watched psychology of conformity video) what would happen if a Christian guy, who truly believes in God, had a direct experience of God, BUT it turns out that the God is not what he believed it to be, or how God was described in the holy scripts. How would that experience change this Christian guy? As if the God heard my thoughts, an ashtray exploded in front of me. I quickly took the remaining's of incense because tit was still burning, and put it in another ashtray, and thought to myself "was this a coincidence?". And as if the God heard my thoughts again, the another ashtray exploded. Okay, definitely not a coincidence... I would really appreciate your advice on this, I really don't know what will happen when I take DMT, whether I will come back or not, whether I will loose my mind and end up in psychiatric hospital, and whether I will be able to function normally in this society afterwards. All I know is that something has to change very quickly, and that I need to make a choice. This time, I cannot reject the calling. It even crossed my mind to do DMT at the very top of the Devil's town (that way it will be in my 7 wonders of the world xD). I truly appreciate your time for reading this and helping me. There are two quotes I want to leave you with: "Through an action, a man becomes a hero. Through death, a hero becomes legend. Through time, a legend becomes myth. Through hearing a myth, a man takes an Action..." -unknown "Sometimes you're not meant to go over, or under, or around it. Sometimes, you're meant to go through it. You just have to get through it." - Elderly client in a lucid state, describing his battle with dementia.

Alien consciousness

Yay, at the end of the video Leo says he will teach alien consciousness. Can we get a countdown clock for that video release ? This video was great, but i still feel the alien consciousness one will be unmatched.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-10-08/cristiano-ronaldo-is-first-football-billionaire-after-saudi-al-nassr-deal So..Ronaldo became the first billionaire football player ever. And at the launch of his YouTube channel he was battling MrBeast about who's gonna become the fastest YouTuber to gain maximum followers in the shortest time . Anyways..so after Messi won the World Cup in 2022...that was a game changer in the GOAT debate . This is the World Cup ..its no trivial trophy . But what I'm noticing ever since that ..is that Ronaldo is getting blowjobs from everyone on the interent . Everywhere you look you see some Propaganda about him and a kind of hyping him up as the GOAT without a doubt. I mean he is the top scorer in the history of football..but let's not forget that Messi is a fucking Alien .the ball is simply stuck with his feet like a magnet. So it's not so simple as everyone are hyping Ronaldo to be the best . Is there anyone else who notices a hyping up for Ronaldo especially after Messi won the World Cup ? I mean he is literally a fucking Billionaire right now so maybe he uses money to infect the media.