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@James123 you are playing with words brother, even your definition of nothingness is not nothingness. Why don't we just talk about the fountain of youth and the philosopher's stone

@gettoefl i know brother. This is what osho talk about in that video. There is no such a thing as infinity, time or space. They are Just thought. You can read the below. Nirvichara Samadhi For the first time, true one-pointed concentration becomes possible. Even subtle thoughts do not occur. The perceptual limitations of time and space are transcended; this state is called Nirvichara Samadhi. Kaivalya Samadhi The final stage is to reach Kaivalya Samadhi: complete, final, and eternal union with the real, eternal form. Which is nothingness. Osho is talking about final stage as this. Thats why he is saying that he has been nothing for 30 years. https://vedicfeed.com/stages-of-samadhi/

So I was feeling bad about something. A thought came to me saying 'observe'..So I stopped to see what I can find. I closed my eyes,it was quiet anyways (so that helped) and I searched my body sensations for a little while. I didnt have any thoughts for some moments because I was trying to feel so my attention was fully focused on my body, I was scanning. so It was only thoughts. I stayed there.Nothing else. Thoughts were bombarding me and I was aware of them but....in the midst of living my life and doing something (I was on the internet like now) I think that I miss some of my thoughts,they are left unnoticed. But Im not aware of this. So....overwhelming thoughts are making me miserable. But Im not feeling it somewhere in my body.Im just experiencing it. Is it maybe because Im not trained enough to spot the feeling in my body? I sensed nothingness there. I dont know.I was calm.No worries.So...is it only thoughts?Thats it?

Call them "thoughts" or dream, or real, it's the same. They are. They come from the nothingness, so the nothingness create them. They are nothing but they are. So? Something is lost here. a piece is missing in your puzzle

There is no such a thing as duality, universe, infinite consciousness, time or space. There are Just a thought. As saying infinite consciousness, it is clear to see that you are stuck in duality. Because it is something that you have learned. But you can never learn nothing, because you are already. Which never comes from knowledge or learning. Truth can never be told, can just be. You can Read the below. There is no such a thing as infinity, time or space. They are Just thought. You can read the below. Nirvichara Samadhi For the first time, true one-pointed concentration becomes possible. Even subtle thoughts do not occur. The perceptual limitations of time and space are transcended; this state is called Nirvichara Samadhi. Kaivalya Samadhi The final stage is to reach Kaivalya Samadhi: complete, final, and eternal union with the real, eternal form. Which is nothingness. Osho is talking about final stage as this. Thats why he is saying that he has been nothing for 30 years. https://vedicfeed.com/stages-of-samadhi/ Peace!

@dflores321 At last stage he talks about Samadhi, which is nothingness brother. Same thing. ? as the video i shared for you. Thats why he says that he has living for 30 years as nothing. Peace!

Let me explain what he is saying, everything that is happening, exists is thought, time is thought. you are thought, your friend is thought.. this comment is thought. your thoughts are thought. and all of them together make this experience, you can use other word if thought does not suit you well, it just means that everything is construct that is fully made to feel exactly as you experience it, but never the least they are just construct that appear in nothingness. Find your own truth, there is way more out there.

Truth is not being nothing any more than it is a chair. You are stuck on the nothingness side of the coin. You're missing the complete coin. So ironically you're stuck in duality.

@Endangered-EGO Inner 0. Nirvana. Nothingness.

@James123 The buddhist say the 8th jhana is the state of neither being or non-being. Maybe that is what you refer to as "nothingness" "pre big bang". Because you say nothingness, but there is still input during a nothingness awakening. I have heard about people who call the state of neither being or non being "absolute nothing" which is not the same as "nothingness"

I have done deeper than that 8 and 10 gr dried shrooms. Infinite consciousness is still something that “you” have learned. Truth can never be learned. You did experience something as infinite, thats why you can communicate as infinite. Truth can never be communicated, you can just be it. Nothingness can never be learned, can just be it. Therefore you dont remember before your birth. Because you learned your “birth” as “infinite consciousness”. When you say infinite consciousness it is still something. I have experience so called infinite consciousness or nothingness on shrooms. But thats an still “experience “. There is no “i” to experience anything. You have to go deeper till crash every knowledge that you have learned and experienced till become nothing. When you become nothing, it will be a before Big Bang. Because everything is exist within your thought process such as infinite. Do you think you are in universe now, and something exist as infinite? Go deeper brother, till no one left to experience anything. Become nothing. Than you will get it. Get awaken without psychedelics. Because of your thought process doesn’t stop with psychedelics, you can never comprehend what being nothing is.

It's funny I just asked a question on the forum about an experience I would call infinity. Maybe some of you are able to tell me if I have tasted a drop of infinite consciousness, or if that is something else? I know it is different from the nothingness. It certainly doesn't feel as incredible as nothingness, but that is maybe because I wasn't all the way trough it. (click on the link to see my post) Infinite consciousness or something else? - Meditation, Consciousness, Enlightenment, Spirituality - Actualized.org Forum

What is infinite consciousness? You can keep telling yourself that, but there is many things you are not yet conscious of. Nothingness is absolute. You lost yourself within the thought process. Formlessness can take any form. Therefore no form as infinite consciousness, it is just a thought, you havent dive in deeper. You need to crash that infinite consciousness to singularity. Even “infinite “ or “consciousness “ is something that you have learned. But nothing can never be learned, can just be. So stop misleading people. It will take decades for people to get awaken from this perspective, just conceptual-zing. You lost your way man. “Me” is just a thought. How can i “say” (another thought) something to “myself” ?

I sometimes have that experience, and it's distinct from the nothingness and it is definitely part of the source and not really an object of awareness/perception. I wasn't that deep into it yet but it occurs sometimes, longest was probably 10 minutes during meditation. I can in some sense describe the nothingness, the change in perception, but I don't know how I would describe the thing I referred to as infinite consciousness. How I enter it: 1.sometimes I just fall into, I remember having high fever as a child and dreaming about stuff with the "feeling" of "infinity". It's the same infinity (I didn't call it infinite consciousness back then just infinity). or 2. When I fall into infinite space, where there is no up, no down, no forward, no location not nothing, just pure space, and I try to merge with the object of the infinite space, I get that "infinity feeling arising" It basically feels like this wavy energy that is the zooming in on consciousness. The more it is present, the more the Body feels heavy and just every sensation on the Body seems to have no limit. like there is the "heaviness" of the legs, and the heaviness is... not limited, not somewhere, it like the feeling of heaviness can bee zoomed in infinitely. It becomes an immovable thing. I struggle just to explain the effect "infinity" has on the body, because the only word I can use is infinity. It's very strong, it feels like a vibrant energy through my entire being. (Not physical energy like kundalini) Is that what people refer to as infinite consciousness? Are there other methods to enter it, or how can I check that's it's really it and I am not only bullshitting myself. Where can this lead me? I realised that becoming space leads me there, how can I get from infinite consciousness into "infinite nothingness", any tips? I believe it helps to put myself in a deep trance an detach from the Body. A god realisation would be nice lol. (I don't use psychedelicss)

Sure, they are around, to various degrees. I'm not gonna waste my time guessing what other people have realized. I will just stick to what I have realized. Infinite Consciousness But it is not other than Nothingness and not-knowing. Infinite Consciousness is not a thought. Your own experience contradicts this. You can keep telling yourself that, but there are many things you are not yet conscious of. I disagree. It's not superior per se. And it's still nondual. What I say doesn't contradict nonduality. It is nonduality, just at a very high degree. Modern psychedelics like 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are new. And just because people in the past used them doesn't mean their knowledge has reached your ears. It died with them. What I say fundamentally aligns with all mystical and spiritual traditions and teachings. It's just a question of breadth and depth of understanding. I know the Nothingness/Emptiness of which these Advaita and Zen teachers speak. But there's more beyond that. Your consciousness is the final arbiter of everything. Find out for yourself what is the case. I'm just pointing out things that you might otherwise overlook.

Sorry Leo, but you have no idea what are you talking about. You lost yourself in wonderland. You are deluding thousands of people now. These people will never get awakening because of you. Of course psychedelics are helpful, but you lost yourself within the egoistic gaining as infinite consciousness. Awakening is completely letting go. Stop brainwashing these people man. Awakening, nirvana, all spiritual work is directly experiencing of nothingness . Guys Listen, Ramana Maharshi, Osho, Raltson, Papaji, Krishanamurti vs. Our entire birth is just a process of thoughts. Infinite consciousness is just a thought. What can be more deeper than not knowing? Even knowing “infinite consciousness “ makes you limited. Stop brainwashing these people.

?? you are a funny guy brother. What can be more deeper than nothingness or not knowing? Infinite consciousness ? ? “you” lost your way man. You “think” you will become infinite consciousness? “You” and “infinite consciousness “ is just a thought. There is no such a thing as something, there is just nothing. Nothingness is pure consciousness. Yet it is not 0. 0 and infinite consciousness is just a thought. Nothingness is all there is, before birth , now and after death.

1. Nothing. Reality is One/Infinite so it doesn't need a how. 2. That's a good one. I don't think I can come up with a linguistic answer. All thought answer would fundamentally temporary and impermanent therefore false and not 100% certain. 3. Right now I'm dreaming 4. Nowhere, exactly. In absolute Nothingness, in the centre of infinity, in the mind of 'God'. Unfortunately I can't escape this dream lol. Can't destroy myself 5. The earth is round. I haven't seen it but I don't practice 100% scepticism with everything because of useful/survival purposes

evident . what is infinite by definition? the nothingness. What happens when something, no matter how large, a finite universe, dissolves into infinity? which is revealed as 0. the absolute is nothing But it's also evidently that the nothingness is. If not, who is perceiving now? The nothingness of course

At the level of experiences, thoughts are objects similar to perceptions. At the level of experiencing, absolute or consciousness, thoughts are temporal modulations, vibrations or coloring of nothingness or consciousness. On the other hand, the whole life is in a way a great thought or hallucination that is imagined into existence.

I still do a little bit of yoga a little bit of meditation. Maybe I should increase. I´ll try to meditate every day. Lazy me... Awareness check. I am not sure that I need it. When I am dreaming I´m always aware, that it´s a dream. It´s not a problem, a problem is that I am not dreaming. Smoke pot. Never tried any of drugs. Maybe it´s a prejudice, but I don´t like even the idea of them. I don´t know anybody who has become enlightened by them, I don´t mean the ocasional glimpses but steady and clear state of enlightenment. Well, Leo seems to be an exception. But! I know enough people who ruined or even killed themselves by drugs. Generally I learned to appreciate the clear state of mind. I don´t even like alcohol. Even if I would change my mind and try cannabis, I have no idea, where to take it from. It´s illegal in my country. I think, I am beginning to understnd the idea of drugs. All the teachings are useless, if you don´t experience at least once this special state of consciousness. Nothingness, Existence, God are beyond imagination, they must be seen. But drugs won´t help you to make enlightenment steady, your normal state of consciousness, won´t they?

Merry Christmas Self-Actualizers! May we all succeed raising our consciousness to Christ Mind where everything becomes nothing, where nothingness manifests itself through... Thank you Leo Gura for all that you brought into the existence.

Yes I know, first time I did 5 meo I was thinking: well, let's see what is that infinite love that all people talk about...and after 2 seconds there is nothing, This is the ego! A definition. All those concepts must wait out of the nothingness. My ego in that circumstance said a similar judgement: I am nothing and this is horrible, but wasn't words, was only the horror That is the point! it's supposed that it's only one conciousness. If there is you awareness, you can't realize the conciousness. You have to absolutely die. That awareness is you, the ego. To realize that you are the infinite void that is, there haven't be any "I" there. When I was in the void was like there in not me, nothingness, but it's the horror, even with big dose, so I really reject the void, but it's great because I have the opportunity of work in the ego. When it's the void, the ego screams with all of his strength, so it gets exposed. The ego isn't only your judgement, is you! When you see thst, and the infinity, all changes, at least for me. Analize that . There is not conciousness that is aware of your existence? It supposed that you are the conciousness. You are alone in a state of infinite emptiness? Exactly, and you are the infinite emptiness I might as well not exist? No ,you as ego don't exist. When you contrast your ego , and all the universe, with the infinity, you realize that it's nothing, a zero. You must realize the infinity first. I had nightmares a couple of nights and I stayed trembling for a while after. The infinity.... Little by little, I'm changing totally what I thought about spirituality, god, enlightenment, etc. It's right here right now, it's nothing, but it is. It's not like find something, it's more subtle, and seems unthinkable

seems that the void is our real nature. Others call it god. In meditation I realize the void and it's not horrible, because you are still there, but with 5 meo it's nothing, infinity, but still a scream of terror perceiving the eternal death. I think it's the ego, that is going to absolutely dissapear in the void. That is obviously the ego, that is doing all his tricks to avoid the void. We have to surrender completely to the nothingness, give our lives as an offering and disappear, to realize the truth. It is obvious, but it is absolutely terrifying for us, if it were not like that ,it would have already happened. for many people it is very easy, they do 5 meo and voila! for others it is scary, depressing, dead, a real Challenge, but it can be worked on. meditate on emptiness, emptiness is who we are, the ego must die. that's the job we're doing

I have no conscious control over sensory data. Meaning I can't wish you out of existence if I want. Therefore these appearances are held within my consciousness because that's the only way to experience a world. That doesn't mean these appearances in my experience are the only thing that there is. I make a distinction between the small you(ego) and the big you (God) . The small you and it's perceptions are held within the big you but the big you extends beyond just what is accessible via the small. Nope! Go ahead and wish this screen out of your consciousness if your consciousness is all that there is. I don't know. See this is tricky. You don't even know if right now you are so called "dreaming" or in the "real world". Precisely because there is no distinction. You can't appeal to that comparison in the first place. Dream is just a metaphor. Reality is NOT a dream my dear. Dream is just a limited configuration within reality. You can't define or capture infinity in a limited way. What do you mean by "me"? I am consciousness. Not that there is a me who is conscious. This brings us back to your earliest point about "others". Others are also consciousness. They are not "conscious". But that doesn't mean they are not conscious. It's really just a technically difference. Better to say that awareness is always so.. everlasting in everpresent nothingness.. either dreaming.. or in a state of dreamless sleep. Dreamless sleep is the closest you will come to the possibility of “no awareness". When you are not aware you believe that youe awareness will pop up again right? Because there is something outside of your consciousness that is holding it. Which is what consciousness is. See there is a distinction between consciousness (reality itself) and "your" little human limited consciousness. Don't delude yourself. All time? You mean forever? It’s hard to answer this question because there is no such thing as time.. so what exactly is "forever" referring to?