ValiantSalvatore
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@Anderz If the wall is the cause, then you could see if it ends,if you break down the wall.
The demand is still there with the wall.
The root cause would be lack of proper immigration and security of jobs within ones own country.
Like why would I change a country if my country provides me with good living conditions,jobs food housing etc.
The same with sex slaves here because prostitution is legal. So, cops have to investigate and prevent, total corruption.
Anyway, I was hoping for an idea to discuss otherwise this is just entertainment or a good conversation. I am still open, but gone for now.
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@How to be wise Well...if you look at it from that viewpoint. Then sure you could be right. https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/70-years-without-eating-starving-yogi-says-its-true-1C9926692. Yet, this is highly unlikely that you can pull it off, do you fast or train to even try something like that. Or is all of this talk to not deal with social issues. I can also say that African Children from my direct experience are not starving since I never meet someone who is starving or from Africa who is starving. So, in my direct experience, there are no children who are starving, which does not mean people do not starve.
How do you come to that conclusion that people do not starve if I make an abstraction out of the concept of African people not starving? I can claim the same starvation isn't real and die in a given time, if I don't eat. I am a bit appalled by your perspective. I don't get why one would be so ignorant "apparently".12 minutes ago, How to be wise said:I’m partly there already. I’ve been working on the awareness of this truth for two years now. The fact that there are no starving African children is from my direct experience, I’m not pulling this out of any book.
As for when you’re starving, I’ve largely removed the suffering from it. I have some of it left, because my work isn’t done. But I will definitely get there. Starvation isn’t real. It’s created by mind.
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@Anderz It is a tactic or a strategy, not a system... and not even a holistic approach, in that manner it is partial.
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@Anderz It is good as a counteractive measure, yet it does not address the root cause of immigration, combining it with a measure which involves a more systemic approach by building a system which supports labourer, is way more intelligent then fencing off a close neighbor.
Human trafficking would not occur if there would be chances and opportunities in the country where people live, or it would be significantly diminished.
People could still use boats, there are people who smuggle cocaine with self-built submarines.
The point is an opinion is not a solution, and just fuels political discussion like now, still, the wall is not a solution it's just a preemptive measure to deal with a situation, not solve it and yes this is my opinion. I think it is unfortunate, that this is the only attempt that is public to solve this issue. -
@Zeus Well, where do you feel that this occurs or is that a specific place where you feel this?
1 hour ago, ValiantSalvatore said:I can't see them, but I feel them. Literally like something touching my skin. When they 'arrive' I feel like I'm being wrapped by a warm, extremely cozy blanket.
1 hour ago, Zeus said:I knew that people believed in 'higher beings', I knew also that people claim to talk to such beings but I've never considered trying doing it. It just happened one day that I felt I'm literally not alone, even if I'm in my room by myself. It's overwhelming, and sometimes I think that I'm going insane, but it's one of the most positive things that happened to me. If you have any more questions feel free to ask. If you need more explanations about anything I said just ask, I can share anything with myself.
What do they say and where do you feel or perceive they say something? Inside your body, skull, or outside the body? How would you describe the insanity? Is there no image?
For instance, the last retreat I was a bit pissed... and I started to repeat out loud Eckhart Tolle tapes (while listening) after the first day ended or so, thinking he is a dirty weasel... ( I am not joking) anyway... at one point my whole perception changed and I felt I could hear his subconscious through the phone's loudspeakers, because I was talking. Also, the next weekend I did a meditation session with nature sounds and listened to a river and I could hear myself screaming through that river. It was quite odd.
After a while, my body began to shake and it felt as if someone chiseled away at my solar plexus and my teeth started to chatter, which I was not able to control, but sort of felt if I'd had to I could stop, but I was just going with it.
In case you want to PM instead of writing in the thread ~ feel free.
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@How to be wise That is the same as feeling hungry, and denying that you are hungry. As if colonialism, has not had an impact on the present.
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I just saw a video of the trump administration wanting to put nuclear waste, on top ! or near a seismic active region. Not sure how this is dealt with globally.
@Anderz https://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5?r=US&IR=T
I heard this was a hot topic, yet if Trump uses the same tactic (sniff) it certainly is not an upgrade in policy and he builds a wall. There is so much talk, it would be nice if someone offers a solution, and not solely marketing campaigns and rhetoric to convince masses or use some form of domestic protectionism as a solution, not trade.
I would love to see that people build more apprenticeships (in case that model even exists in America) in order to deal with mass immigration so they could benefit society, or other solutions working together with the country to boost the economy in that country, to reduce mass immigration. In the end, a state is also a slave to its economy and therefore companies,
When I see the refugees here in Germany, there are somehow always some non-profit organizations, caring for them often green and leftists people. Even if you don't hear it that much. Also, there are actually "lefties" here who are more for the labor union and the abolishment of classes in some latently existing way or support the working class through ... labor unions, free internet access, and more anti-capitalistic ideas, also violent ones. Also, a lot of younger people volunteer to help with the refugee crisis.
When I see America, I would never have that impression that younger people would care about social causes. Besides the environment, animal rights, abortion rights?, gender identity, and yes the justice democrats talking about stuff, like public health care, or Bernie Sanders for free tuition for college.
Anyway, I will follow the news and also, will read their election program, to see what the 2020 elections will be about. -
14 minutes ago, Zeus said:I can't see them, but I feel them. Literally like something touching my skin. When they 'arrive' I feel like I'm being wrapped by a warm, extremely cozy blanket. I'm not a person that cries often unless it's an extremely good or bad situation, I cried many times in this week from the peace and warmth I feel, so it's a bit overwhelming.
@Zeus Is there a specific place where you feel this? That sounds more positive than negative overall, yet is there a particular reason for it to feel so overwhelming or is it just the sheer amount of crying that occurred this week?
After the last retreat, I noticed that sound is extremely odd after I distance myself from youtube videos and I felt I hear some "patterns" that sort of lead to something higher.. or lower! Yet, it did not fit into the conversation and now this is somehow gone.
14 minutes ago, Zeus said:Talking to them can happen in many ways. Sometimes I talk to them by thought, I basically ask anything I have and chat for a bit, I always end it by thanking them. Sometimes I can feel like they are talking to me in form of a song or something I overhear, youtube video....
Is there no picture or image inside, when you talk to them? Would you describe it as more positive or did you read anything about such occurrences? Before I ask more questions I leave it at that. I am just curious and hopefully, you can deal with that. I heard that people can talk to angels and meet etc, yet I am not sure. This goes beyond logic. Potentially someone else can use logic or has experience here on the forum if it bothers you or is even helpful, to share!
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@Zeus How did that happen? My friend talked to me once about a very weird experience which is not supposed to be a dream. Which well, I just took it and accepted it. He told me that everything that he saw was represented in numbers and it somehow reminded me of the number pi. The way he explained it and the notion that I remember from him explaining...
Can you describe what it was/is like talking to other beings? Also, how they look like?
Yet, sometimes I have similar awareness but more with nature and animals, which scares the crap out of me. Yet, extremely rare my ego is most likely scared to go all the way, or yes I also question if I am deluded in my case. -
@Chumbimba Wow, thank you a ton! These were the instructions I received yesterday in case I receive a kriya "attack/cleanse" again sweeping through the motion of the experience meaning using a body-sweeping technique. + a different approach to zoom out and cover the whole body and as far as I understood it cover the whole experience through that ~ zoom out ~ awareness.
I have these around my solar plexus, it feels like it is almost gone, yet the pain after the two kriyas "attacks" reduced significantly.38 minutes ago, Chumbimba said:Yes I released a lot. I was having Kriyas before the retreat, but now I don't have them anymore. A lot of childhood trauma came up like bullying, family problems, past rejections etc. I noticed a huge knot like sensation in my throat. That's where most of my pain is held.
The first 3 days we focused on the breath. Then for the rest of the retreat we were taught to put our awareness on different parts of our body and scan from head to feet. It's a powerful technique but I like other forms of meditation a lot more.
I never imagined that something like this is so profound, I had only one friend telling me that he has two similar feelings, at different spots "charkas" or whatever terminology/lingo.
Shinzen called it psycho-spiritual purification. Also, that in extreme cases people make grimaces and make animal sounds.
IIRC - for me, it has a lot to do with feelings of crippled mastery(I went to music school... when I was 2 years old), being made fun of, over-competitive freaks who made fun of me, exploitation and feeling powerless, denied curiosity, denied questioning which now almost feels like zero. It has gone down from pain level 9000 to 90 spiking up to 3000..... for a retardedly "true" scale.
Thank you again! Also for your report!
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3 hours ago, Chumbimba said:The pain body- This was a concept in the power of now that Eckhart Tolle talked about. Your various traumas and negative emotions are stored in your body. Repressed anger, shame, guilt and all that shit is in your body without you even knowing it. This is why people feel and behave in really terrible ways.
Did any release occur of old pain, shame guilt etc. at the retreat there from any of the partitioners? I just learned that these releases are called kriyas and that they can occur at more intense retreats, like Vipassana retreats. I applied once for one from Goenka, yet they were already full.
Also, that is important to stop practice for some time if it gets too intense, for instance, kriya experiences happening out of the blue, in mundane life. IIRC!!
Which technique did you use and if possible could you describe the vipassana technique that you used for the retreat? I saw a couple of videos about it and saw that they labeled, for instance, each step with the label step or walking smth similar. Since I am practicing a different vipassana technique I am very curious how the process of meditation in "original" vipassana looks like, could you describe the technique used at the retreat?
Thank you for the report! -
@outlandish Can do, yet won't happen in the next 3-2 years lol. Most likely not possible.
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@outlandish I don't know. When a neuroscience consultant and many others say that stuff happens. Then I am quite sure something will happen. Why is a different discussion in which I certainly do not have the credentials. So, I am left to do my own testing and research.
1 hour ago, outlandish said:Anyways, if I was looking for a 5-MeO-DMT experience specifically, I would just get some 5-MeO-DMT rather than spend a week in the dark hoping to get some for "free".
That is not my point, I was searching for an alternative since it is illegal here. Sure, I already "found" a way to get access to it, yet how safe it is is a different story.
One quote from my teacher is "Enlightenment is becoming comfortable in the dark". Many masters have already done this apparently, so I was curious. So, I was thinking about this quote for some time.
Otherwise, it would combine even both, a retreat and a 5-MeO experience, so it could even be more powerful for free. Yet, these retreats still cost money. Also, you could do 5-MeO and do a retreat, so you could even compare when you do both what you prefer or which is more powerful. In case dark room retreats work like that, I did not dive into any research or high-quality material, besides the videos above. -
12 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:I think the brain naturally produces DMT after extended periods in darkness, not 5-meo-dmt.
Apparently it does both according to man tak chia, first produces 5-MeO Dmt and then DMT
Apparently, one week is needed.
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@Serotoninluv Okay, I just googled and checked wiki I was going with assumptions.
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@Serotoninluv yes, I was not aware of that 5-meo-dmt is the substance and dmt the chemical.
@FredFred Here is one report. From this guys school above.
Shinzen also talks about long periods in darkness he did a 100 days isolation in darkness and reported seeing people as insects afterwards so I am a bit scared. Another guy on the forum I wrote told me he stopped after 4 days. -
@Leo Gura Is it possible to produce 5-MeO naturally through dark room retreats?
I heard that this is possible. Yet, I am very scared to try this version...
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Chakras and kriyas would be a perfect video not sure if the two are related. Or kriya experiences. @Leo Gura
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@CreamCat Leo's new video explains this perfectly lol. My prof always ranted about shit quality questions and he is a high performer who thought at Columbia. No idea why this guy is here, besides that he owns his own company.
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@CreamCat You could benefit tremendously listening to the videos from shinzen, that would completely eradicate this whole conversation.
An enlightened master with a math background, neuroscience and a phd is above 99% of the population. -
@CreamCat @CreamCat I think this is a very noble perspective, it this is the whole point that you most likely not understand.
To sacrfice, oneself for a higher cause is very blue. See crusades, missionaries etc. Yet, it is necessary. Or even a hero, dschingis khan was a hero for his folk too, the same with Jeanne d’Arc.
Creation and non-creation is also a better frame of mind then fight and non-fight. Imo since it involves the process as a process and not a fight as an uphill battle meaning there is always an internal opposition confronting your path.
Creation feels less egoic and struggle~ish.
There have always been underground movements, zealots, avant-gardes, partisans etc.
Was your whole point not to include personal development with enlightenment or spiritual work ?
I am out of the conversation so far, I don't feel I add value currently.
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@CreamCat You are avoiding the question. Why not take on the perspective for the sake of the perspective...........
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@CreamCat You can already determine now which fight you want to fight for.
It is already great that you have an intention to become a master and change and/or excel in a field of your choice, especially if you have the capability to do it.
Did you read so far anything or listen to anything about the traditions, if you ask about enlightenment in the context about personal development?
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Can ya'll leave grand master Hitler out of the game?
He had his reasons ok.
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@Zeus @Serotoninluv
I had a similar experience using LSD(both posts), I wanted to test the perceived "telepathy" at that moment with my friend, yet he was a bit paranoid and thought that we are playing games. So I could not test this with him, because I felt that we were thinking similar things, the patterns even made sense of how everything unfolded but, in the end, we just had "intellectual discussions" and were being in awe of mystical experiences more or less. I felt I became conscious of his thought process solely, internally I was hallucinating like described here https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Internal_hallucination.
The unity perception was quite real not as intense as described here but https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Unity_and_interconnectedness more in terms as described:
"A sense of unity between other human beings and the objects they are currently interacting with."
Yet, only human I kept thinking about sam harris's LSD experience saying he loved his friend that seemed quite real for me at that moment, but not to the deepest level or a deeper one. (Not considering breadth, also in consideration of depth)
I also felt I was processing his girlfriends' dream, which was not that fun since it felt like a bad dream and I had to clean it...
After the trip, I asked him if he felt that "oneness" and he told me no he felt we were total opposites, which shocked me a bit and left me baffled trusting my own intuition so much. https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Perception_of_interdependent_opposites
I still want my experience of self-design
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Perception_of_self-design