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  1. Posted

    7 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

    Parroting isn’t something specific to this forum. You will find parrots in every social situation and group. If you had Ben Franklin, Abe Lincoln, Jesus, Buddha, and MLK all in one room, you will find a parrot. That’s just how social life and humans work. Even Leo has parroted ideas in the past. No one is immune.

    The issue is you aren’t doing proper philosophy.

    You are one of the rare exceptional few who aren't parroting and thinking independently.  I like everything you post because you question all the "sacred Hindu cows "(the ideas that others are parroting). 

    Curious to know how exactly I'm not doing proper philosophy and what is your definition of it ?

  2. Posted

    Leo and Inliytened1 keep saying that this work is not about beliefs or cult's ideology etc..but with all honesty ..I'm seeing it in myself and in the vast majority of members here.  People here just parrot Leo's insights like a gospel..or particular set or system of beliefs (me included).

    That's what it actually is. Leo is somehow explicit and at the same time so much implicit about it. He says that his ultimate goal with this work is to understand reality. But understanding reality is the ultimate hero's journey and I don't see anyone here capable or serious about this except Leo himself .

    I'm not kissing Leo's ass ..I have some disagreements with Leo's philosophy as well ...it is based on three major principles (philosophies):

    • survival is the main and only driver for all of human activities.
    • Idealism: everything is Mind or consciousness instead of matter .
    • Solipsism: only you exist.

    For some of you guys here and me included...it's probably time to move on. You want results? You're not going to get them by philosophising. Even if you stop playing these philosophical games. As long as you're listening to Leo and/or interacting with others on the forum (or anywhere) who share the same mindsets.. you're still going to be stuck. Ideas don't just affect you on the conscious level. Your subconscious mind naturally imitates its environment. The people you surround yourself with affect you more than you notice. Ideas affect you more than you notice. Learn how to control the stream of information that you're intaking. You might believe that you belong somewhere. But that's a false.. limiting belief. You can belong anywhere. It's just a matter of time needed to adjust and accommodate. Nothing Leo says is actually false. Nothing anyone says is actually false. Everything has some truth to it from a certain perspective..because everything is Truth.

    But either commit 100 % to this work or just quit .

    Peace ✌ 

  6. Posted

    26 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

    They had no idea how to handle me; they were trying to use their methods to conform me. That never worked in the long-term. It’s like trying to fit a square peg into a circular hole.

    Haha I resonate a lot with this.  It's like I can't even strike or hold a conversation with my family even for 5 minutes without both me and them feeling awkward. 

  7. Posted

    5 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

    theres two tracks survive&thrive and the one precludes the other

    happiness is survive while thrive is beyond the happiness unhappiness poles

    thrive is stuff like challenging, creative, curious, conscious, compassionate, calm you get the picture

    thrive does what's not been done

    all choose one or the other

    alas you cant change i say

    when you're no more you'll know more

     

    I'm struggling to understand what you are saying with all honesty.  Not sure if it's because the immense lack of punctuation lol.

    Can you  break it down a lil bit so that my fish-sized  brain understand it better :)?

  8. Posted

    @Yimpa I have shallow relationship with my family..I live alone and only visit my family twice a year or something.  I never understood that deep relationships and socializing is crucial to happiness. We are sociai animals ,It seems .

    11 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

    Happiness may not be circumstantially-derived, after all. You're still holding "winning" -- survival -- as happiness. Whenever things go your way, you say you're happy. When they're not, you say you aren't.

    I finally got the PS5 - yeah! I'm happy. 

    I couldn't get the Ferrari - oh I'm so depressed.

    In any case, whenever the condition ceases to exist you're back to chasing the cheese -- of survival.

    Happiness may be a function of your nature... But hey, who knows?

    Maybe happiness is not what we think it is.

    Yes that's how conditional happiness work . 

    I like your skeptical posts.  But your always through a wrench of skepticism without answering the question...you  just add more questions ? 

  9. Posted

    5 hours ago, Harsh Bagdia said:

    Hello ?

    May I join this conversation between you and Leo? 

    I am assuming Yes, ok? 

    Thanks ?

     

     

    So Moderator @Inliytened1, 

    I feel honored to share my perspective on this matter, thanks for this opportunity. 

     

    While your thought is beautiful (that happiness is matter of perspective), 

    You are taking survival for granted. 

    Don't discount Survival for GOD CONSCIOUSNESS. 

    Survival Is Necessary For GOD Consciousness to exist. 

    If any of us get eaten by a bear, it would be a dis-service to humanity.

    As being part of probably the most conscious community on this planet, we have potential to do wonders for our fellow humans. And animals and plants and "inanimate objects"..

    I won't forgive you if you get eaten by a bear even in the name of spirituality. Yes you can call me how much ever non-spiritual as you want. 

    And that I am too emotional. And etc etc..my eyes are too watery to write properly. 

    I just can't imagine the pain anyone would go through while that attack. 

     

     

    Well ok I am good now?

     

     

    If you are in God Consciousness Always Then Maybe When A Bear Attacks You, you can dis-imagine it into the existence/get eaten by it and become the bear itself. 

     

    No human being has reached that level not even Sadhguru in my understanding and experience...

     

    I can't even imagine what radical state of consciousness that would be.

     

    Also, why do we need that?

    Don't we have other things to engage in and master? 

    Personally speaking, I would run my ass off if I see a bear in front of me..

    I would run faster than a cheetah..

    Because I love my current form just too much..

    Yes I am very very selfish.

    And every human being is. It is in our genes. 

    From my perspective it's a God gift. Fear is good in this sense. 

    The Higher Happiness is not to remain happy everytime. 

    But become whatever it is necessary in a given moment. 

    I remember Leo's words: You will do everything for Survival. 

    Survival is deeply deeply intelligent. 

     

    About Leo being happy with his health condition; 

    It is not that he wants to remain that way.

    Humanity's medical system has failed him. 

    It is not his fault. It is medical systems fault. 

    I wish I could come up with some magical medicinal treatment which heals his health. 

    If anyone here belongs to medical field,hey why don't you do some research on it? 

    It's our Leo we are talking about here..

     

    My point is: 

    It's stupidity to expect Leo to be happy with his health condition instead of giving him solutions for his health. 

     

    That was all.

     

    Thanks for reading?

     

     

    4 hours ago, An young being said:

    I would say being peaceful is more important than being happy. That doesn't mean happiness is not important. Trying to be always happy is. Here are some things I found that can bring happiness into anyone's life:

    Don't overdo anything, including being happy. Mix different activities together instead of overdoing a single activity. Be open minded to new experiences and don't come to conclusions before trying them

    1. Loving kindness , compassion and gratefulness meditation 

    2. Exercise

    3. Sleep

    4. Stop comparing yourself to others who are above you. Compare yourself to people below you.

    5. Have a pet

    6. Enjoy a walk in nature

    8. Give what you can towards orphanages, old age homes and poor people 

    9. Plan a vacation

    10. Be mindful

    11. Spend money on experiences ( food, movies, games, vacations) rather than materials ( big house, big car, dress etc. )

    12. Limit your desires.Stop chasing desires that are unlimited and have less probability of attaining.

    13. Spend more time with family and friends

    14. Smile

    15. Learn to say no

    16. Reduce expectations

    17. Accept death

    18. Don't consider yourself as special, mingle with community

    19. Learn to be humorous

    20. Be humble. Don't act like being humble

    Thank you  guys .high quality advice. Exactly what I've been looking for . ?

  10. Posted

    @Leo Gura but you have teached  in the past that we should strive to unconditional happiness as the ideal approach because conditional happiness is not realistic nor sustainable..

    You have videos saying happiness (or rather goodness or love and so forth) are synonymous with existence itself.

    Did you change your mind about those things ?

    BTW I hope you have good health and well being and happiness in your heart . You are truly a gift for all humanity. So I want to just say thank you for all you do ❤ 

     

    P.S I asked you before.. but this is the last time I will ask you this.....can I contact you outside of this forum via any social media app that you use? 

    Thank you  ? 

  13. Posted

    I've tried a lot of stuff (material stuff)  in order to be happy and as expected I end up craving for more. Because the nature of those things ive tried is transitory. It's like chasing a mirage. So I'm convinced that chasing experience or external conditions Will not result in deep satisfaction (and this goes against what 99% of people are busy doing). It Will result in a temporary satisfaction before the longing resurfacing again. I haven't found a resolve to this issue yet. Except maybe complete monk-mode and abstaining.. Fasting etc... Which doesn't work either. Some people are just not born to be monks. I am one of them . But the dilemma I'm stuck with is that neither indulgence in pleasure nor abstaining and sobriety leads to true Happiness. So then what brings happiness? 

    I tried to make a list ..and it included:

    • health .
    • Life purpose. 
    • Awakening. 

    But I'm neither in a good health recently because of smoking and eating crap junk food and Soda etc nor do I'm achieving anything related to my life purpose (which Is to become a philosopher )..nor am I awake .

    Any advice appreciated ? 

  15. Posted

    On 29/09/2023 at 10:19 PM, r0ckyreed said:

    This is what I argue that Enlightenment/Awakening is imaginary. It is impossible to awaken to God or realize God because God cannot grasp itself because it is itself. It is Infinity! Being is prior to knowing. The hand exists prior to being grasped. 

    Consciousness has the ability to understand itself . Its a feature of itself .just like how you are able to self-reflect and self-reference.  When you say "I'm deluding myself " . It's not like there is two of you.  It's one that is able to self-reflect .

  16. Posted

    Dude ..no offence..I admire your passion about  those topics but when you are gonna wise up and see solipsism for what it is?  A load of horseshit basically. 

    I have my own experience and you too .so are the approximately 8 billion human on this godforsaken earth .

    I empathise with you ..solipsism is part of the path..but a smart guy like you should not dewll on it too long to outgrow it .

     

  20. Posted

    1 hour ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

    Oh, let's say you do open your eyes and want to escape these endless psycho dreams, here's the only method to do so: let go of everything this world has to offer, simply sit in your room and be still. Let go of all thoughts, choose silence again and again and you will come back home. It's that simple. Remember, enlightenment, heaven, God, Self, is not perfectly visible now only because you are constantly doing things to cover it up. When you stop doing everything - it will happen. It takes some time, like up to a year of perfect non-doing, but that is a cheap price to pay, since you sacrifice endless pain for endless love. 

    Finally someone who is actually awake on this forum .? 

  22. Posted · Edited by Someone here

    4 hours ago, vibv said:

    My current – not completely finalized – perspective on this is the following:

    1. God has absolute Free Will, because there's nothing outside the Absolute that could limit the Absolute 
    2. Our ego is a creation of God that has no inherent free will, but God grants the ego its will in a certain scope out of pure unlimited Love. God wills what the ego wills, because there is no reason not to
    3. The more conscious you get the more of Free Will you realize, the more you realize that everything is already exactly chosen how it is by the absolute Free Will
    4. The more you're inside the ego (I use this word here to mean ignorance) the more you act out of egoic structures, that repeat themselves automatically and create the same situations over and over again. At the same time those exact situations are exactly what you need to see through those unconscious patterns. God in a way gives you perfect opportunities to awaken more in every single moment
    5. God and absolute Free Will always chooses perfect LOVE and GOODNESS, because there is no reason not to

    That is assuming that ego and God would be separate entities, which of course is an illusion.

    Another perspective would be, that God by its absolute Free Will chooses to have the experience of being limited.

     

    1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

    I'm not missing the point. The point you're making is included in my point.

    You are saying it as assumption.  That let's assume that we can call our actions that they are "our " actions.  Because at the end of the day we have survival that gots us by the balls..so we are forced to make choices. Etc 

    But I'm saying all THAT ⬆️ is out of your choice as well .

    So you didn't escape the problem.

    Compatibliam is impossible.  If everything is the result of previous events going back to the big bang or whatever the fuck else from all of reality came from ..then the only one who has free will is God (the Godhead not the ego).

  24. Posted

    13 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

    That's a limited perspective. I gave both perspectives earlier.

    Well ..what are the choices that we have ?

    Either we have free will..Or our choices are deterministic...Or they are random .

    If you observe direct experience carefully..you will notice that your thoughts and actions do not come about from a CEO/separate self/controller agent that lives inside your mind . Neither it is deterministic because what exactly would make it deterministic? It's not like there is  a creator god who has written your entire life story down to every single little detail .I guess it's just random .because we can't anticipate the next choice that we are gonna make .