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  1. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Jannes said:

    Did you have an enlightenment expercience?

    Yes, I’ve had several.

    9 minutes ago, Jannes said:

    If so how long did it take you ?

    From the point of consciously learning what enlightenment is, about a month of daily practice.

    But my results may not mirror yours. I had unconsciously been laying the foundation for an experience like that for years. So it may take you much longer, depending on how much groundwork you’ve done.

    Also, keep in mind I wasn’t asking myself “how long is this going to take?” like it was some sort of chore. It’s understandable that you feel that way and that you want to know if this is real. That’s normal. But I’d suggest taking a longer term perspective if you can. This is a life long endeavor. There’s always more to learn. You’ll never get it done, ever.

    Commit to finding truth, commit to discovering yourself, commit to your happiness. Not checking enlightenment off on your to-do list. And then start putting in the work everyday.

  2. Posted

    27 minutes ago, Jannes said:

    I don’t think it’s a bad thing to make your process as comfortable as possible. This warrior spirit is ego too imo. But yeah I am like 80% commited because of 20% unintegrated stage orange stuff holding me back unconsciously. Is it necessary to be 100% commited though if I do my 1-2 hours of self inquiry with full 100% concentration and effort ?

    Commit whatever you can. If 1-2 hours a day of self-inquiry is what time you have, go for it. But also realize there may be a time when you want to commit more.

  4. Posted

    3 hours ago, Jannes said:

    But then in a recent video Leo said that any spiritual seeker should read at least 16 books about nonduality.

    If you’re unwilling to read 16 books, you don’t have sufficient commitment to this path IMO.

    That’s like the easiest part of this.

    Much harder is actually contemplating all of it, facing your shadow, struggling with confusion, meditating for hours and hours, etc.

    So in theory it’s maybe not necessary. You could be like Eckhart Tolle and just get struck by consciousness lightening. But that’s not realistic for most people. This work is very challenging and without a proper theoretical foundation, you can very easily go down a bad rabbit hole.

    Also, people get into this work for real, they’re usually sucking down theory like there’s no tomorrow. So my assumption is that maybe you’re not quite ready to go so deep with this work. Which is fine. Everyone has this time.

  5. Posted

    @ganu

    Well besides the “there is no death” absolute perspective, I’d say the simple answer is that death is important.

    Death is what allows for the ever changing nature of form. If nothing dies, you’d just have the same thing forever. But death is what allows for the new to come up.

    So yes, we could look at scientific explanations for why death exists. Oxidation of the body. Inflammation. Disease.

    But I think the real answer is that death happens because that’s the part of the design. It has to be that way because God is infinite.

  7. Posted

    6 hours ago, tuckerwphotography said:

    @Leo Gura Yes, but there's another perspective often articulated by saints and gurus that there is some sort of objective Goodness out there called Love that's can guide our actions, bypassing the human ego. Almost like any action can be guided by Love or Fear, and if we choose Love it's because we're acting on behalf of God's will. I see this as different than the Stage Yellow win-win-win stuff, though some overlap perhaps. And I'm not sure if it's distinctly about survival, as often the examples used are doing something that risks survival for the sake of Love. Is this just because it's pointing to the survival of the human species (and/or nature), or is there actually some objective Goodness out there that our hearts can feel and be guided by?

    I suspect many of these pointers are trying to get to the same thing. But it gets convoluted when you try and put it in words.

    Omni win-win-win scenarios are essentially a pointer to include more as your self. Which is the same thing as moving into higher degrees of Love. The more you include as you, the greater your Love.

    At stage yellow this Love is not going to be perfect, but it will be expanded from the previous stages.

    And of course even in the best omni win-win-win scenario, it may still have some negative consequences. Just by me being alive, something has to die. That doesn’t seem very win-win at the surface. But overall we can move more and more towards the betterment of the whole.

  8. Posted

    4 hours ago, Johnny Galt said:

    Great sharing!

    "Humanity could seriously become a super race of beings if we figure this out." !!!!!

     

    How about we create a planetary thought experiment festival to kick start this:

    "How do we get the benefits of localization (with a focus on food) without sacrificing the benefits of globalization?"

    A cash prize could be given to the winner. The point would NOT be about the implementation of any one's ideas. The point would be to initiate this level of thinking and to get the wheels turning; it also involves the collective coming together for a common cause - you could call it team building :) 

    I would love to get more people talking about these kind of issues.

    The challenge is not so much one of ideas. That is likely the easiest part. It’s implementation and actually getting people to agree to act on it.

     

  9. Posted

    23 minutes ago, Johnny Galt said:

    @aurum We could build the infrastructure locally, region to region, which would produce all we need (in most countries). 

    But then again, our governments and those that supposedly represent us, they push policies which then has us sourcing goods from half way around the world and so this would have to be addressed as well. Problems like this are systemic and so it's the whole of society that needs to be addressed and over hauled. 

    There is a lot about the relocalization movement that I like.

    For one, local food sourcing could be healthier and more environmentally friendly as people would be closer to their food. But also, it has the potential to restore communities that have been broken due to excessive market economics. And that’s just the beginning.

    The challenge as I see it is, how do we get the benefits of localization without sacrificing the benefits of globalization?

    Because there is no going back to a world that isn’t globalized. And there doesn’t need to be.

    The main benefit of globalization seems to be increased cooperation. We could pull together the man power of literally billions of people. That is not possible if we just stay in our local bubbles.

    Humanity could seriously become a super race of beings if we figure this out.

  11. Posted

    12 minutes ago, coca said:

    A lot of misconception, misunderstanding, and back and forth debate surrounding female attraction and sexuality between men and women boils down to one concept:

    Girls want Traditional Men, But Don't want to be Traditional Themselves.

    This is where you see a lot of male frustration arise.

     Women expect and value traits that associated with traditionally strong men, such as confidence, dominance, assertiveness, status, leadership, and often favor men who are ruthless in attaining these qualities, while telling the public politically correct answers that they like "nice, kind, sweet, honest, and empathetic men.

    Further, they absolve themselves of being "traditional women", by having lots of casual sex with assholes, posting their ass and tits on social media, wearing sexually provocative clothes in public, etc. 

    Traits such as nurturance, sensitivity, sweetness,[15] supportiveness,[11][8] gentleness,[8][9] warmth,[11][9] passivity, cooperativeness, expressiveness,[25] modesty, humility, empathy,[8] affection, tenderness,[11] and being emotional, kind, helpful, devoted, and understanding[9] have been cited as stereotypically feminine. The defining characteristics of femininity vary between and even within societies.

    Standards of manliness or masculinity vary across different cultures and historical periods.[8] Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western societyinclude strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness

    These are red pill talking points and should not be allowed on this forum. Mods?

  14. Posted

    12 hours ago, samijiben said:

    There are 18 boys and 40 girls in this program. A lot of the girls are very beautiful and I want advice on how to talk to them, connect with them, and more. I guess I'm just inexperienced. And also looking for advice for my unique situation. 

     

    You’re definitely in a unique situation.

    My advice is slow everything down. Don’t try to do any weird cold approach, pua nonsense.

    You’ve got way more girls than guys so that creates an interesting dynamic. Even if you don’t want to date most of them, you still have options.

    At the same time, your total number of classmates is extremely tiny. So everyone is going to know everyone. It’s like a single tiny tribe, where reputation spreads fast. 

    You’re also 16. So you just want to be building basic social skills at this point.

    Really I don’t have much advice for you other than go be a 16 year old. Make friends. Be as social as you can. Attend whatever events or gatherings there are. Get a crush and then get your heartbroken. And get in a little bit of trouble.

  15. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Tudo said:

    But I think she is speaking on the individual level.

    Of course masculinity and femininity will exist on a spectrum for everyone. It’s not “everyone is 50% masculine and 50% feminine”.

    But your mind can easily use that to pretend that therefore you have no feminine repression. “I’m just more masculine, that’s why I don’t resonate with any of this feminine stuff”. When in fact most of us in modern society are suffering from a lack of integrated feminine.

  16. Posted

    15 minutes ago, somegirl said:

    Do you think, apart from those moments you feel you are on ground zero, it has improved your overall relationship with her, in comparison to before? Was it worth the hussle? 

    Most definitely it has been worth it.

    The biggest thing I've gotten out of it has been confirmation that I'm not crazy. When you're in a toxic relationship with someone, and the other person sees no problem with their behavior, you can easily start to think that maybe you're totally off. Maybe they're right and you're just overreacting.

    But once we sat down with someone, it became obvious that I wasn't crazy at all. That I was in fact seeing what I was seeing and feeling what I was feeling. That our relationship was, as I suspected, toxic.

    Of course that doesn't mean there's never any room for you to look at your own behavior. We always have to take responsibility for what we're bringing to the relationship. But it was just very refreshing to hear someone validate my concerns instead of making me feel like I didn't know what I was talking about. That sort of thing can ruin your self-esteem and even make you start to question your judgment in other areas of your life.

    It's also an opportunity for you to just get things off your chest that maybe you've been holding back. When we go through our daily lives, it's easy to repress things or just get caught up in patterns. But in therapy, it's like you have this magical hour blocked off where you're free to express just about anything you've been experiencing. And that's acceptable because it's "therapy", and that's what you're suppose to do in that context.

    So yes I'd recommend it if you can get your mom to go and find someone qualified. Not all therapists are created equal and it's worth finding a good one.

  19. Posted

    @somegirl

    Mother issues run deep.

    I’ve been to numerous therapy sessions with my own mother to heal our relationship. There has been progress but it’s  like dragging someone kicking and screaming. Whenever I feel like maybe we’ve really put the past in the past, suddenly something else comes up and it’s like we are right where we started.

    Your mother may never change. As long as you don’t think your living situation is at stake, you can draw boundaries with her and firmly maintain them. You could try therapy if she is open to that. But those are essentially the extent of your options until you move away.

    Unfortunately, it just seems like a facet of modern life that most of us grow up in households we would rather get away from. Parenting is in the dark ages. 

  20. Posted

    6 minutes ago, roopepa said:

    Whaaat. I think there might even be several people on the forum quite solid on Turquoise.

    I feel like many people see Turquoise as full transpersonal stage. Like Ramana Maharshi, Buddha, Rupert Spira etc. But it isn't. This is Tier 3, not Turquoise.

    Or am I misunderstanding something here?
     

    Perhaps one or two.

    This is just my understanding of the spiral. It takes a long time to truly move into a new color. It doesn't happen in a week.

    For myself, when I read the descriptions of each stage, I find the most resonance with Green / Yellow. Even if I intellectually understand that Turquoise is the goal, my behavior and thought process often doesn't line up if I'm being honest.

    I suspect most people are struggling to even just move solidly into Green. That is basically the pinnacle of modern society. But it's still a minority.

    So for anyone to get beyond that is really impressive. You basically have to outgrow all of modern society.

  22. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Vision said:

    I really want to think hard about this as there’s usually no going back once you pick one and it takes a lot of time to develop a brand. 

    Actually companies change their name in the early stages often.

    Obviously you want to avoid that if you can. It can be costly to have to redo all your branding. But it does happen.

    And unless you're already a huge company, changing a name will likely be a small endevour. And if you are a huge company, then congratulations, you've already built a huge company anyway.

    I wouldn't make this a top priority. People will buy from a brand named zcgi87 if you truly solve their problem. There are things that are way more challenging in starting a brand than picking a name, and that's where you want your attention to be.

  23. Posted

    4 hours ago, roopepa said:

    I'd like to hear this from someone who has personally gone through that leap.

    What were the main "insights" or realizations that lead to this? What were the pitfalls of stage Yellow in your experience?

    How did your beliefs or perspectives on certain concepts such as the ego, spirituality, philosophy, society, enlightenment, mind and emotion change in this process?

    I doubt you’re going to find anybody on this forum. Turquoise seems to be extremely rare. I certainly don’t think I’m stable in turquoise myself.

  24. Posted

    This one is niche. It’s for songwriters who write using the guitar:

    I find most people who teach music theory make it extremely complicated and dry. Jake Lizzio does neither of those things. His videos are always highly engaging but also informative and practical. He can teach you just about all the theory you need to know to become a solid songwriter.


    The second channel is Jordan Hall, colleague of Daniel Schamachtenberger:

    If you like Daniel, you’ll find a lot of crossover with Jordan. He has an interesting series about his alternative way of structuring society called Civium. I don’t know if I agree that his ideas will work, but I accept that they’re well thought out and can get you thinking along some interesting lines. Worth checking out for serious systemic thinkers interested in social change.

     

    Third channel is Isabel Paige. She’s kind of a hippie, yogi, vegan girl living in the mountains and starting a farm. Hits a lot of cliche stage Green tropes. Her videos are mostly just for entertainment but they have great energy. She seems to be very much enjoying her life and that’s what I like about it. I also love nature so I’m a sucker for these kind of things:

     

  25. Posted

    25 minutes ago, roopepa said:

    Some people may not understand nor like what I'm trying to say here, but something really smells bad in this conversation.

    Sure, you can study all the objective characteristics that will get you laid, you can push all those buttons and drown in pussy. But that doesn't feel right. There is something really untruthful in that whole shebang. That doesn't sound like deep fulfilling sex. That won't make you cry in each other's hands from the beauty and love.

    There is some deeper level to all of this that is not being uncovered in this conversation.

    If I see a woman with a great body, a great smile, having all the 'objective' qualities I find attractive, but she doesn't have that certain energy, there is something deep missing there. Sure, I'll get hard. Might even go hit and have sex. But that's not what I'm really looking for. It's not the true potential of sex and intimate relationship without that mystical energy. But if she got that energy, I could 100% be in that relationship even if there was no sex at all.

    Who cares about what attracts most women? That's like building a business on what makes the most money. Not very conscious.

    Yeah this is good. I made a similar point earlier in this thread.

    Sure, I like sexual novelty to a degree. And maybe there’s some biological impulse in me to “spread the seed”. But realistically, I’m now in my 30s and not looking to crank my lay count into the stratosphere. I’m looking for something much deeper than that.

    And so, it’s not worth it for me to use strategies that maybe will get more women attracted to me if that means sacrificing quality. And by quality I mean quality of partner and of the relationship itself.

    The strategies I want to implement are the ones that are going to get me the highest quality match. Damn anything else. Who cares if I could potentially attract more women with a Rolls Royce? If that’s why she’s with me, that’s a bad sign to begin with. We’re not going to be compatible.

    Which is of course not to say women should have no needs in relationships. Or that there’s nothing for you to do as a man to develop. But there’s certainly needs that are more conscious than others. And that’s what I’m screening for.

    As a large generalization, I feel like the debates that have been having on this subforum can be broken down to two types of guys:

    1) Guys who have yet to integrate leadership / assertiveness / dominance

    2) Guys who have and are looking for what’s beyond

    The guys who haven’t integrated these concepts to a sufficient degree want to keep hammering the importance of status / leadership etc because that’s what they feel they lack.