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  2. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    33 minutes ago, kenway said:

    I found this really fascinating. Pretty neutral too, so no propaganda here. Maybe @Leo Gura might enjoy too.

    Pretty neutral 😂🤣 

    Man why can't you do it a bit more sophisticatly and at least add some regular videos of regular Israelis (not just weirdous) and show the problems there? You will appear much more reliable.

    For your favor I am saying.

  3. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Raze This video provides interesting points to discuss along with other weaker claims and of course dismissing of any hamas and palestinians responsibility in this tango.

    However this is light years away from the persecution's original accusation anyway.

    There is a deep and intersting to me psychological issue with the passion when people want to blame Israel that is still never the same as another war zones discussion where the situation is far worse 

  4. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    If you care about good results, you should ask for a fair condemnation with a co-operative approach.

    A fair critisism on Israel can go like this ✏️📋

    " 1. We suspect Israel acts not only out of a military necessity, but also cause an extra damage which doesn't help to fight hamas nor to protect its soldiers from hamas's fortifications, but rather costs civilians lives for nothing.

    2. We know that the elimination of hamas is very important to the future of the Palestinians children in Gaza who been killed psychologically and maybe irreversibly from hamas education and indoctrination and need an urgent recovery plan, and to the Israelis too.

    3. Therefore, we are not asking Israel to give out the war completely, because this is not a legitimate demand, but rather to invest more efforts, even if it is not easy given hamas interest to maximize civil casualties, to be as accurate and surgical in its actions as possible.

    4. We are not just speak and preach because this is the easy part. But rather, we will work hard and think hard and invest some genuine effort by ourselve to create mechanisms that will ensure our demands from the IDF, because we really care about Gaza's situation therefore we will show this with our actions.

    5. We are willing to talk openly with the Israelis as well as to listen with open mind to their traumas and legitimate concerns, and think together how to get closer and as fast as possible to our common goal. "

  5. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Merkabah Star This is just so ridiculous. They even didn't agree to say hamas is a terror organization. This is so clear to me what is going on here.

    Sometimes a good intuition is really enough when you obviously don't and won't have the precise 100.00% scientific proof for many things.

    I saw 2 hours from the SA speeches (1 hour left to see) and the 3 hours of Israel response. The differences in the level and the quality of the claims are huge.

    No doubt at all, for me, that those accusation are not any other than an abuse, in a similar way conspiracy theorists use curnel of truths to make a totally engineered and wrong in its essence story.

    Israel's response was so much more directive, broad in their context that could keep a sensible and healthy structure all along the way, calm even, confident and to the point. For me it is very clear.

    This is not to say there are no problems need to be addressed as I said before in my comment to the video of ex-IDF soldier @Raze added, but the whole accusation of "genocide" is an entire house of cards. Absolutely ridiculous.

  9. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Danioover9000 So you are taking one photo of a defensive imanignary idea to put in our borders in order to replace the defensive fence Israel thought will prevent wars and was wrong.

    And then you use this picture as a proof of a "genocidal" intent? Are you really expecting a serious answer for that?

    Isnt it a similar tactic to taking sayings of some soldier boys or a far right wing knesset member and get it out of context to dehumanize Israel as a whole?

    So now you try to dehumanize us in getting something totally out of its real context rather than react to the point of the claim?

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    On 8.1.2024 at 6:20 PM, OBEler said:

    They did not only mastered it,they saw the limitations and transcended rationality, logic and intellect and also cultural learned morality to a higher force (the instinct, unconsciousness, evolution force, the raw natural power). Hitler wanted the Nazis to be lead by this force, which is far more powerful than the intellect. Which makes them some kind of not human anymore. Nietzsche would call them super humans.

    I don't think this is true.

    If they were beyond this they would not chose to do genocide.

    Maybe they were a mix of pre-rational and rational.

  15. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    The Christian citizens of South Africa say something very different 🇮🇱🇿🇦

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C19dpl-tiF3/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

    "South Africa stands with Israel even though they leaders have failed them" the post title. 

    So, maybe, this is mostly the leaders there who blame Israel.

    It reminds me of Iran where there are many Iranian who are supportive on Israel and most of them hates their regime.

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  16. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

    Assuming that caring deeply about a war from a distance inherently makes you selfless is a selfish assumption.

    We need more people who are willing to turn inwards at their own selfishness. This is the real challenging work; not the endless debating and finger pointing. 

    Contemplating this war actually helped in my own personal life, connecting the larger conflict with my own inner conflict. 

    Liked

  23. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    19 hours ago, Raze said:

     

    Valid points.

    Especially the second guy. The first one was too vague in his story.

    Fair enough, IDF, just as every western military, has its corruptions that implies a developmental need and still long way to go. There are a lot of problems within the military system that have to be addressed.

    The palestinian terror, and the deep fear it causes in the hearts of the Israelis obviously cause them to dehumanize the other side and I am sure it affects also the military behaviour. Then yeah, right.

    Having said all of that, we have to not get confused, and to not fall into the game of fake "symmetry" between the sides.

    Israelis (with a radical minority exception) have no desire to do anything to their neighbors as long as they are safe and not provoked.

    Israel wanted peace and offered peace so many times and been rejected.

    Thousands of Gazans been let to work here in Israel out of a good faith that it will make everybody more moderate including hamas, while invested 5 Billion shekels (~1.5 Billion dollars) on the defense smart fence, which didn't help.

    Israel thought, that the technology will make the wars unnecessary. Israel was wrong.

  24. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    37 minutes ago, zazen said:

    Al Jazeera are live streaming it on YouTube also.

     

    According to him:

    If the courte will aqcuit Israel, then Israel will continue "murdering".

    Which mean - If the courte will be in the favor of Israel then the court is Lying.

    In other words the courte will be right only if it will be by MY side.

    Whether its option 1 or 2, the consequences will still be "Israel is a devil". Surprise.

    He is preparing the ground for his win-win 😃

    What a clever engineering work.

  25. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Happy Lizard I am with you on that.

    This is why the "Israel" this forum see is not even close to the real Israel I know.

    From that comes the frustration.

    In a sense this radical governemt hijacked the whole country and society and decided for it how it will be grasped.

    And the more radical the person the more titles he will get. This completely distorts and hides the true face of our society.