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@Inliytened1 Yes, we're all susceptible to a degree, but the point is that these psychological mechanisms are being deliberately exploited by influential, powerful, and bad actors. Folks like Tucker Carlson and Steve Banon understand these mechanisms and they're intentionally exploiting them. It's the difference between "everyone gets angry sometimes" and "someone is pumping contagious, rage-inducing pathogens into specific neighborhoods 24/7." A good complimentary model or map might be "The Post-Truth Industrial Complex". Psychological vulnerability + exploitation infrastructure = post-truth crisis.

That seems wise regarding how we physically or verbally express ourselves to the wicked one, but being indifferent to wickedness in mind sets up a trap of rejecting reality and shirking responsibility. If we judge someone as "wicked", should we feel nothing? I believe it should be acknowledged and the emotions that stir from that acknowledgment be allowed. Maybe it's best to view it from two perspectives: inner cultivation and external responsibility. From the perspective of spiritual development, we should avoid the trap of ruminating too much on wickedness and letting it consume us, but from the perspective of worldly responsibility, rampant wickedness needs resistance. So, balance and restraint. Just my current opinion. I'm sure Pantanjali was much wiser than me.

That’s just one of the reasons. Symbolic Dominance Transfer, for lack of a better term.

I say allow your emotions but modulate their expressions in public. You can be happy that Kirk died and that’s fine if that’s what you feel, but if we put out a gleeful expression, we look like fools with no civility. It’s mostly about optics.

Damn bruh

Haha, apt analogy. Just curious, what made it click for you? Surely it was a multitude of coalescing factors but do you recall any specific thing that carried the most weight?

Nice vid. Lots of overlap with the core of the model.

Thanks @Bjorn K Holmstrom! In my view, this contagion is pathological, so I don’t see how to avoid that. I see it as an unconscious rejection of truth rather than political disagreement or a difference in opinion. We could easily collect 100 consequential falsehoods MAGA folk believe are true where there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. These truth rejections led to a guy who tried to overthrow our democracy getting elected again, so I think this is pathological. Should we avoid the truth? Maybe reframe it at the risk of gaslighting those not caught up in post-truth? Maybe just keep it to ourselves? I don’t really know what is best. My intuition says blasting it out would be less harmful than what we’re experiencing. How do we go about helping people accept the truth? I’d say we need to spread courage and education of the psychological mechanisms that make us susceptible. David Hawkins talked about how the level of courage is the threshold between truth and falsehood, which tracks well with my ideas, because without courage to accept reality and your own fallibility, you will likely double down into falsehood. What are your thoughts on this? Are you trying to figure out how one might use this information such that it wouldn’t offend? I attempted to include these but it cluttered things up and distracted from the psychological mechanisms, which were most important to me. It would be interesting to see them integrated. Hell yeah man, take any or all of it and modify it however you’d like - no attribution necessary. I’m no intellectual or anything - just a perplexed observer. Lol. I’d be interested to see how you adapt it into your work. If you feel the need to link back to it (which isn’t necessary) the Google Doc @DocWatts posted above is probably more accessible than the forum. Do you have a link or more info on your GGF? Sounds interesting.

For now, it's good to practice sorting facts from speculation. Speculations are fine so long as they aren't too heavily weighted. This entire thing has been riddled with false conspiracies, so anytime my speculation starts leaning towards what feels out there, I reel it in and remind myself that I simply don't have enough data to verify much of anything, and I sure as hell ain't gonna be led by the logic of online randos because there are too many fools that make it hard to know who's assessment is solid. Professional hitjob shouldn't be ruled out, but it shouldn't be more than 50% probability, because the information landscape surrounding this is a minefield of falsehood and we don't have enough data, in my view. I decided to stop looking at all the conspiracies because they're mostly false and a huge waste of time and energy. I'm just gonna wait and let everyone else flesh it out. Smarter, not harder. lol

lol. Bot farms are just something to keep in mind. We live in an age where they serve as a valuable tool for spreading ideas via emotional osmosis and mimetic desire. The wolves are always one step ahead of the sheep, it seems.

I think the more deluded and more egotistical, the easier it is to repress and carry the trauma. It’s like a deeply traumatized child - they can be fucked up and not know it for decades. Her neediness and all the distractions that she adores will prevent her healing. Her status position got elevated to the highest level she could ever imagine. Powerful and famous people she had never spoken to phoned in to tell her they were sorry. The vice president rushed to her side and flew her away on his private jet. There was a grand spectacle of a memorial where she was the main character, with millions of eyeballs watching her display her virtue. In other words, her ego got taken for the ride of its life and there’s no telling how she responds when the dust settles, but I suspect she will continue to seek distractions to avoid the work of healing. The ego ain’t got time for all that silence and reflection.

🤦‍♂️You are a deflection machine!!! lol, but it's all good.

Haha. Wonder if all those cancelled Disney+ subs had anything to do with it.

Exactly