New War In Israel / Gaza

[Danioover9000]

@Merkabah Star

46 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

@Lila9 I’m not triggered even a little bit. Lmao. 

 

   Those two are so unbelievably cringe, how are they so blind that their side is not only doing genocide, but are destroying so many buildings that Gazans will be homeless and will increase immigration to other countries? Jeez

[Lila9]

10 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Hamas did not start anything. It was ongoing conflict for decades. Israel killed historically dozens times more people than Hamas did. Just because Israel got attacked once brutally when it did brutally attack others dozens of times. It is basically like the Nazis crying for Dresden when they inflicted way more pain on others during the war.

When you say "Hamas started this war", you are implying that things were peaceful there and they were not. 

Hamas has the collective trauma of Palestinians which makes them act like they do and think like they do.

Israelis have little collective trauma inflicted by Palestinians.

Dont take our your historical anger about Nazis raping and killing Jews on Palestinians.

Hamas started this war, and Palestinians initiated this conflict. They had the choice not to attack and solve this peacefully, but they always chose terror, and Israel fought back.

You don't know much about Israeli collective trauma to say that Israel has 'little' trauma, you are talking from ignorance.

[Danioover9000]

@Lila9

1 hour ago, Lila9 said:

There was a ceasefire, it has been broken by Hamas. Hamas are not realible.

Hamas are not interested in peace, it's so delulu and disconnected from reality to believe they care about peace.

They can start from stoping support Hamas, donating money to them under the cover of "human rights organizations" and UNRA and put more pressure on Hamas leadership to release the hostages.

 

    So because of one small evil group, the IDF gets to carpet bomb buildings and infrastructure of Gaza, and displace Gaza population thus increase immigration issues? Sounds like genocide justification to me.

[Danioover9000]

@Lila9

4 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Hamas started this war, and Palestinians initiated this conflict. They had the choice not to attack and solve this peacefully, but they always chose terror, and Israel fought back.

You don't know much about Israeli collective trauma to say that Israel has 'little' trauma, you are talking from ignorance.

   Yeah @Karmadhi. You know Jake about Israel collective trauma, so no comments about them genocidal tendencies Okay, ignoramus?! Clearly Israel isn't displacing Gaza, or mass killing women and children to get to a small bunch of terrorists or anything baka!

[jaylimix]

14 hours ago, Lila9 said:

The Slaughter 710 on Telegram:

https://t.me/the_slaughter710

Add hamas.com and thisishamas.com

[jaylimix]

14 hours ago, Lila9 said:

I don't subscribe to the "they do that because they are oppressed" theory. Many oppressed groups don't exhibit similar behavior, suggesting a toxic ideological factor at play in their actions that isn't Israel's fault.

Truly oppressed people will not have free reign to build rockets and launchers, do not have free reign to build terror tunnels, it's all BS propaganda.

Uyghurs is more fitting with the description of oppressed, because they are hauled up into concentration camps, then again it is their own self created reality of terrorizing Xinjiang for years.

Rohingya is more fitting with the description of oppressed, but according to government officials, X users testimonies, and my own Myanmar factory worker, they cause terrorism and crime as well.

[Merkabah Star]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Merkabah Star

   Those two are so unbelievably cringe, how are they so blind that their side is not only doing genocide, but are destroying so many buildings that Gazans will be homeless and will increase immigration to other countries? Jeez

When they do their military service the indoctrination is big. 

I would refuse to do military service if I lived there. 

 

[jaylimix]

12 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Here is a solution for you: Go back to 1947 borders and give them 50% of the land.

1947 borders won't work because the Jews want Judea and Samaria, their ancient land.

Plus, Israelis need to cut Jordan off from the Westbanker Pales, otherwise Jihadis would cross over the Jordan river, bringing with them weaponry and munitions.

I am thinking a land transfer to Eilat, south of Israel, but then again people would all be hesitant to move.

[jaylimix]

2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Israelis have little collective trauma inflicted by Palestinians.

Little ? And how would you know that ? Blowing up buses, stabbings, ramming vehicles into people, shootings are all little ? Cross country killing, killing athletes in Spain, in the Olympics is little ? 

[Jodistrict]

On 10/7/2023 at 0:34 PM, PurpleTree said:

Islam does too it seems

because in other places people didn‘t commit terror attacks like tibet etc

not saying one is better than the other, tibet is mostly gone

Buddhism follows the doctrine of adhimsa (, i.e. do no harm).   Islam recognizes the right of Jihad to fight injustice.   They are different beliefs.  I hold it as an open question as to which is right, or whether they are both right.

[Vrubel]

1 hour ago, jaylimix said:

Add hamas.com and thisishamas.com

I have watched them. For me it's important. I am weak and shaking but I can handle it. It's a reality that must be faced and integrated. The tied-up raped and burnt bodies hit the hardest knowing they were shimmering and beautiful young women. The cutting out of the fetus from the stomach while the woman is consciously watching, is so gruesome my brain cannot register it as real. There is also a collection of 50 minutes of video of Hamas atrocities that is too traumatizing to publicly publish and is only shown to journalists and officials in private screenings. All of this savagery is committed by people/human animals who are considered heroes in Palestinian culture. "An integral part of the resistance" one would proudly boast. 

Palestinians have first and foremost dehumanized themselves. I don't hate them it's just that I have zero respect for their culture. All of my more moderate and peaceful views come from wisdom and cold principles but I have no real compassion for Palestinians. Only for those I love do I have extreme and even painful compassion. I love my family and my (ex) girls. I have respect for nearly all peoples of this world, also compassion to a degree. My deepest love and compassion is for Israelis, I also have a felt love for Russians. Feeling compassion hurts like a bitch. 



 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Vrubel

[Nivsch]

4 hours ago, jaylimix said:

Little ? And how would you know that ? Blowing up buses, stabbings, ramming vehicles into people, shootings are all little ? Cross country killing, killing athletes in Spain, in the Olympics is little ? 

A decades long trauma.

Now the patience is over and the pressure cooker overflowed.

[Nivsch]

5 hours ago, jaylimix said:

Truly oppressed people will not have free reign to build rockets and launchers, do not have free reign to build terror tunnels, it's all BS propaganda.

A very good point in my opinion.

It is estimated by ~500km(!) of an underground terror tunnels built state. 

Very oppressed 🙂

Edited January 10, 2024 by Nivsch

[kenway]

 

The Psychology of Israeli Propaganda

 

[jaylimix]

5 hours ago, Vrubel said:

The cutting out of the fetus from the stomach while the woman is consciously watching, is so gruesome my brain cannot register it as real.

We are seekers of truth, therefore it should be pointed out that that video is not verified to be of Oct 7, and could be of Latin drug cartels.

But a first responder did testify that he turned a pregnant woman over with stomach cut open and the fetus stabbed.

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by jaylimix

[lina]

https://www.salon.com/2024/01/05/cnn-admits-it-runs-all-gaza-coverage-through-bureau-monitored-by-israeli-military-censor_partner/

CNN admits it runs all Gaza coverage through bureau monitored by Israeli military censor

 

[Nivsch]

30 minutes ago, kenway said:

 

The Psychology of Israeli Propaganda

The thirst for justice and the emotions when someone isn't educated about this so tricky issue is very understandble.

But this is only a phase, and if holywood people are intelligent and sensitive (and I believe part of them are) then they will understand the truth later in their life.

A bunch of holywood folks are already understand and much more emphatetic of Israel.

Edited January 10, 2024 by Nivsch

[kenway]

1 minute ago, Nivsch said:

The thirst for justice and the emotions when someone isn't educated about this so tricky issue is very understandble.

But this is only a phase, and if holywood people are intelligent and sensitive (and I believe part of them are) then they will understand the truth later in their life.

 

Are you sure you watched it all?

The video is 1 hour and 9 minutes long. It's been 29 minutes since I posted it.

The truth hurts, my brother.

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, kenway said:

Are you sure you watched it all?

The video is 1 hour and 9 minutes long. It's been 29 minutes since I posted it.

The truth hurts, my brother.

I started, hoped to a serious video but 5 seconds barely passed and a stupid girl say "they have to dieee" and then I realized it gonna be another childish propagandist video.

But I am not loosing hope, and I will watch anyway.

Edited January 10, 2024 by Nivsch

[Bobby_2021]

On 1/8/2024 at 5:37 PM, Karmadhi said:

If your child was put in a cage and trialed at a military court for throwing rocks at a soldier and random soldiers came as they pleased by breaking the door searching without a warrant you would feel oppressed. Also forgot countless checkpoints just to move around your country and not being hit by snipers without warning.

Saying there is no oppression of Palestinians when there have been countless reports from many international organizations is pure delusion.

Talk with some Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza about their daily life and you will see for yourself.

Easy to say there is no oppression from your comfortable first world country in Israel or wherever you live without a worry in the world.

I didn't say there isn't any oppression. But if you want to control the oppression, you need to first establish law and order, by force. Or both sides must be willing to back off without the use of force. And be happy with the land they have at the moment. 

This is extremely hard to come by, if you appreciate the ground reality of it.

The Houthi terrorists have already started launching rockets at container, gas tanker ships in the red sea because of what Israel is doing.

I guess even that is justified to you because some people are oppressed.

Thank Goodness the US navy exists to impose peace in international waters.

Without the US navy projecting it's force in the international waters we would all bend to the whims of the terrorist.

At the moment most ships have rerouted via cape town instead of the Red sea because it's not worth getting bombed.

And be prepared to pay significantly more for oil. Even that should be okay.