ROA for 5-MeO-DMT (Freebase vs HCL)

[DrugsBunny]

If I wanted to plug 5-MeO-DMT would I use the freebase or the HCL?

I would much rather try 5-MeO-MALT but I cannot find it anywhere, at least not through a vendor I would trust. So I'll have to try the much harsher seeming 5-MeO-DMT. 

Does plugging make the come up easier? How long would you be waiting for the come-up if you plugged it?

 

[Brivido]

4 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

freebase or the HCL?

For the freebase version, you just need a few drops of vinegar to dissolve it.

5 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

Does plugging make the come up easier?

Yes, plugging is more gentle than smoking.

6 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

How long would you be waiting for the come-up if you plugged it?

In my experience, around 7 minutes.  

[Fluran]

HCL with just small water drops

Freebase with vinegar, or coconut milk

Plugging depends on what form the psychedelic comes in, HCL or Freebase. 5-MeO-DMT in freebase form needs to be converted to HCL so that it doesn’t burn your bathroom muscles. You can use vinegar and/or light coconut milk. A demo of this can be found here on youtube, but always do your own research.

 

     -You’ll want to use as little liquid as possible to dissolve the substance. Around 0.2 to 0.3 ml is good.

 

 

Last 5meomalt i got was from canada delivered to USA, last 5meomalt ran out and idk where to source it again

[DrugsBunny]

@Brivido Thank you, your posts are always so helpful.

@Fluran Damn, thanks. Bookmarking that for sure.

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

So I'll have to try the much harsher seeming 5-MeO-DMT.

Dude, 5-MeO-DMT is a miracle. Stop treating is so dismissively.

[DrugsBunny]

@Leo Gura Haha what do you mean? I'd rather be gently guided in a warm blanket of loving source energy into realizing divinity and godhood rather than abrasively ripped from my consciousness and recklessly thrown into a DMT void.

This is just the impression I get from the two substances when reading people talk about them on this forum? Do I have something incorrect?

[OBEler]

@DrugsBunny me too man! I want warm feminine energy.. Malting away into DIVINE 

[RMQualtrough]

Have you ever seen people at toad ceremonies?

They smoke it and then pass out, seize, vomit, turn blue, w.e. else... Leo sticks it up his ass and masturbates while watching porn in the bath. Or does videos and accepts Amazon packages at his door.

It should be obvious from that which is the most effective RoA. Vape it if you actually want to have a serious trip. Anal is like having a bottle of WKD and acting like you're drunk, vaping is like downing a bottle of Smirnoff straight out the bottle.

[DrugsBunny]

@RMQualtrough If that description was meant to make me more favorable to vaping over plugging you've only achieved the opposite affect, sir.

An opportunity to stick a foreign object in the hind end should be relished in any case — irrespective of the high.

[OBEler]

@RMQualtrough you need to consider 

1. You get used to 5 meo, so if you Do hundrets of times already you dont Pass out or vomit. You can be more in control

2.leo Was on lsd as the Amazon guy came

3.anal should be as serious as vaping. It just doesnt kick in so fast. You maybe need a little higher dose but that's it

Edited October 4, 2022 by OBEler

[RMQualtrough]

8 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

@RMQualtrough If that description was meant to make me more favorable to vaping over plugging you've only achieved the opposite affect, sir.

An opportunity to stick a foreign object in the hind end should be relished in any case — irrespective of the high.

True.

I think realistically, the best way to administer 5-MeO is straight up the urethra, and to the left.

[Leo Gura]

18 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

This is just the impression I get from the two substances when reading people talk about them on this forum? Do I have something incorrect?

All your ideas about it are nonsense.

Try it 50 times, then let's talk.

Edited October 4, 2022 by Leo Gura

[DrugsBunny]

@Leo Gura Considering that I'll be trying it for the first time it makes sense to approach it cautiously. People describe 5-meo-MALT as way more gentle/comfortable. I generally experience nausea with psychedelics, so I'm thinking it's best to go for MALT over DMT here. 

You're saying it's incorrect to regard the two as equally suitable for awakening while regarding 5-meo-DMT as the harsher one? Like I shouldn't even factor in other people's testimonials when picking between the two? That seems to be what you're saying.

[machii]

21 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

@Leo Gura Haha what do you mean? I'd rather be gently guided in a warm blanket of loving source energy into realizing divinity and godhood rather than abrasively ripped from my consciousness and recklessly thrown into a DMT void.

This is just the impression I get from the two substances when reading people talk about them on this forum? Do I have something incorrect?

If you've done 5meo-dmt before then malt seems a little more gentle in come up. but if you havent had any experience with 5meo-dmt then malt still knocks you off your socks. I had only experienced vaprized 5meo-dmt before I tried plugging malt, thought it be as gentle as you described but at around the 7 minute mark it started and completely swallowed me in two seconds into infinity and beyond lmao.

[Fluran]

5meoMalt felt like swimming on nondual jelly ocean, I can manage to not get drowned, but it feels so difficult to swim,

 

More higher dose, upto 22mg, It became so thick to swim.

 

[Raf]

5meo dmt shoots me into nothingness, it crushes me into full submission, then I reborn, then I cry and laugh, then I feel one with the world and I love life. 
 

5meomalt doesn’t do any of that to me: it feels like MDMA on steroids, a feeling of love that is so overwhelming that I want to cry, but also, if you allow it to let it be erotic, it’s extremely powerful and arousing. 
 

I’d have to mention that I smoke 5meoDmT (100mg freebase of the real toad venom) whereas I do 5meomalt sublingual (50mg salt). 
 

I’ve done the toad 6 times, malt 10 times. 
 

2 very, very different chemicals for me, which is why I don’t understand why people often describe Malt as a feminine version of toad. 

[OBEler]

@Raf thank you very much for your comparison. I had only two 5 meo malt trips alreasy on low dose. It is more potent than 5 meo dmt and feels so much more gendle, it lacks the seriousness of 5 meo dmt on this dose (3 to 6 mg rectal) . I like it very very much so far, trip duration is 1,5 hours. Afterglow effects are so good with malt I wish I could maintain that my whole life. Unbelievable great substance Leo discovered here. 

Did you have a breakthrough with malt already? Why Do you take 5 meo malt sublingual, whats the advatage over plugging? 

Edited July 16, 2023 by OBEler

[Thought Art]

@OBEler more Potent eh?

I find them very similar but more experiments needed

Edited July 16, 2023 by Thought Art

[Davino]

Can I smoke the HCL?

I heard it's harder to smoke but if I manage to do it is everything okay?

[LSD-Rumi]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

Can I smoke the HCL?

It will hurt your lungs, you cannot smoke salts.