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1 minute ago, Shin said:

for men that can't be done without a life purpose on top of that.

That’s a limiting belief. Life purpose is a social construct made of ideas, nothing to do with balancing out your polarity. It can be a part of it, but you’re putting unnecessary emphasis, which is also Leo’s agenda - he sells a course after all doesn’t he. 

2 minutes ago, Shin said:

But like you said, upbringing and life experiences can change that core and natural balance (which is not 50/50 for most people).

It’s precisely 50/50 for all human beings who are not traumatised by their experiences. Which is close to no-one on planet Earth. The natural state is equal balance. If you don’t have an equal balance you have something that’s called an ego. Which is fine, we just have to say it as it is. 

 

5 minutes ago, Shin said:

What I mean is that there is such a thing has a true percentage of masculiity and femininity that is set in each of us

There’s a percentage outside of the 50/50 balance that’s been conditioned, not ‘set’ as in some sort of determined destiny that somehow overrides the 50/50 default. Again to say that there’s an ‘imbalance of masculine and feminine polarity’ that is set is a limiting belief, because as long as there’s imbalance, there’s going to be some form of pain lingering unresolved creating some form of toxicity and overcompensation.

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@Shin btw even to say 50/50 is misleading, it’s more like it becoming one thing. I’ve experienced this that as I heal more and more the distinction between masculine energy and feminine start dissolving because they start working in such a harmony that they become indistinguishable. It just takes time and usually is a life long spiritual journey of healing and awakening. 

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5 minutes ago, MatteO22 said:

@Shin btw even to say 50/50 is misleading, it’s more like it becoming one thing. I’ve experienced this that as I heal more and more the distinction between masculine energy and feminine start dissolving because they start working in such a harmony that they become indistinguishable. It just takes time and usually is a life long spiritual journey of healing and awakening. 

Then it's not realistic to talk about femininity and masculinity as if everyone can achieve that.

It's more useful for 99% of people to talk about what attract and is fulfilling for both mind.


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3 minutes ago, Shin said:

Then it's not realistic to talk about femininity and masculinity as if everyone can achieve that.

It's more useful for 99% of people to talk about what attract and is fulfilling for both mind.

Agreed. 


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1 minute ago, Shin said:

Then it's not realistic to talk about femininity and masculinity as if everyone can achieve that.

It's more useful for 99% of people to talk about what attract and is fulfilling for both mind.

Depends, I think it’s useful allowing everyone to embrace where they’re at with awareness and self-compassion. And not try to gaslight people into thinking that they should be somewhere where they’re not at already. Silly isn’t it :D. (This isn’t me accusing you of gaslighting btw I think you’re one of the more sane people here). 

You should be more ‘masculine man’ or ‘more feminine woman’… tbh what does that even mean because that’s gonna mean a different thing for all of us.

 

Just be as you are, come as you wish (which is a great Matt Kahn quote), and be honest about your experience, which translates as ‘I feel this’ not ‘my partner should do XYZ in order to allow me to avoid ABC’ that’s how we create intimacy, and that’s when healing begins. 

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@Shin I think ultimately the reconciliation between genders is a journey of forgiveness, the masculine forgiving itself for what it didn’t recognise in the past as hurtful and abusive, and the feminine forgiving others for what it survived at the hands of all perpetrators. And it happens in phases and takes time and that’s fine, but at least we don’t need to pretend like there’s something else going on! :) 

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You guys, one can definitely become more in tune with their feminine and masculine side. It's not something you are clear about by default with yourself.

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47 minutes ago, MatteO22 said:

whether you have dominant feminine energy or masculine energy has actually nothing to do with your gender and everything with how you grew up and how your childhood dynamic went. Basically which ever parent in your family was the more dominant ego structure, you take on their imprinting whether it’s mom or dad, masculine or feminine. 
 

Is this how it usually goes? This would make sense for me…my dad was the dominant parent, very emotionally unavailable, unpredictable and my mam was the submissive one dependent upon him. 

so growing up I suppressed my divine feminine.  
As I started growing into womanhood I had a fear of intimacy, was hardened and very defensive, I started my periods and kept it a secret and tried to hide them. I would wear baggy clothes and didn’t like to show my figure.  I was afraid of having anything intimate with boys. I constantly had a guard up.

Suppressing my feminine created a shadow feminine in me.
  
when divine masculine qualities are suppressed this creates a shadow masculine (what we see a lot with aggression, controlling, overly dominating etc.) 

So for example a guy who has a dominant female figure around would suppress his divine masculine.  Am I understanding this right? 


 

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9 minutes ago, intotheblack said:

Is this how it usually goes? This would make sense for me…my dad was the dominant parent, very emotionally unavailable, unpredictable and my mam was the submissive one dependent upon him. 

so growing up I suppressed my divine feminine.  
As I started growing into womanhood I had a fear of intimacy, was hardened and very defensive, I started my periods and kept it a secret and tried to hide them. I would wear baggy clothes and didn’t like to show my figure.  I was afraid of having anything intimate with boys. I constantly had a guard up.

Suppressing my feminine created a shadow feminine in me.
  
when divine masculine qualities are suppressed this creates a shadow masculine (what we see a lot with aggression, controlling, overly dominating etc.) 

So for example a guy who has a dominant female figure around would suppress his divine masculine.  Am I understanding this right? 

Yes, thank you for your example that’s exactly it, with one exception. 
Guy needs a dominant ‘feminine figure’ in order to develop feminine traits not female. E.g If you had a child and brought it up in the state in which you were conditioned (imbalanced  masculine), your child would have the same energetic predisposition as you, assuming you’d be the dominant parent. 
 

In my case it was a bit of a chaos, cause my parents switched who is more dominant quite frequently, which to an extent happens probably to everyone but not always in such an extreme as me, regardless overall my mom was a little more dominant so her imprinting was much deeper than my fathers. And the relationship I had to my dad was mirroring the one my mother had to him. Which also mirrored the relationship I had with my masculine energy. 

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@Shin appreciate the effort to create positive constructive discourse. Very admirable 

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@MatteO22

Hey man, even though some men are more feminine, it's not 50/50. Most men definitely have more masculine " energy" than feminine. Not only spiritually, but even biologically and evolutionary speaking too. Go read some work of a serious evolutionary scientist or, at least, a spiritual teacher about sex and attraction. Stop posting non-sense stuff. 

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On 15. 6. 2021 at 8:51 PM, Karmadhi said:

@mivafofa The thing is that guys believe that girls actually want to fuck them but will pretend like they do not want to so they wont look like a slut or easy. That is why guys are taught to push for sex until they get a hard NO. Honestly if a guy did not push for sex at all his success rate would decrease dramatically. If a girl says like hmmm i dont know, maybe im not feeling ready etc that to me is not a hard no. A hard is no is exactly what it implies. NO!!!

I am sorry you are so RedPilled. Get those nonsense teachings out of your mind, it is not helping you. You seem like a really lovely human being who has a lot of compassion, but I would not be surprised if somebody here got triggered by what you say. I think you are very loving and kind, but just naive and oblivious to what is happening in the real world, sorry to break your illusions, but it is so. I am happy you are showing interest in learning about this. If I can ask you, are you a virgin?

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5 hours ago, Lucas-fgm said:

@MatteO22

Hey man, even though some men are more feminine, it's not 50/50. Most men definitely have more masculine " energy" than feminine. Not only spiritually, but even biologically and evolutionary speaking too. Go read some work of a serious evolutionary scientist or, at least, a spiritual teacher about sex and attraction. Stop posting non-sense stuff. 

All your points remind me of this video, I’ve been thinking about it all this time it’s so funny xD 

Instead of all this talk, go tell your dad that you love him ! Granted he’s alive and well, and your relationship isn’t too broken beyond repair… hopefully ;) 

 

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@Harlen Kelly Obviously Preety knows about these rape statistics, she lives them. It is weird of you to assume that she Is not aware and to continue bashing things into her head that she already knows. The girls in this thread have shown guys so much love and understanding it is actually surprising considering the topic is rape and trauma. It is actually insane what kind of girls we have here. Can you please assuming that these girls are biased in a way that somehow overlooks your experience when that is clearly not true? Stop assuming feminists hate you, stop assuming women just want to target you. They love you so much even though you act this way, it is amazing, you just do not see it and keep acting hurt... Realize your worth and move on, you are lovable man, all these women have shown you. I am sorry you live in such a bad reality when a better one is literally offering itself.

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@bejapuskas There is a considerable amount of assuming on your comment. If you want to know my stance on a particular topic, ask me concisely. 

Edited by Harlen Kelly

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@Thunder Kiss Yeh after all it is another imagined duality, dont take it so personally, have fun exploring :) It is no big deal to just be and do what you want. Of course there is an element of upbringing etc. that is why I say, dont take it so personally. You can be whatever, its fine, express yourself, communicate, find a compatible person who Is clear and all. 

Normally I dont agree with people using this masculine-feminine binary duality. It is uninclusive language towards certain people, which occupy even this forum, although they arent seen as often perhaps because they feel marginalized. 

However in this thread where we discuss gender specific issues and their perception which is very strongly affected by biology and life experiences connected to biology, I think its extremely useful for us to use this terminology, differentiate between male and female POV.

 

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@intotheblack  This sounds very interesting what you are sharing. Would you mind sharing, if this is true for you, how your rebelion against these labels affected your life and personality, clothing, make up etc...? I think this is also something guys often misunderstand, how girls are fucked by gender roles and how their personalities rebel against that, which often results in them being slut shamed...

 

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@Lucas-fgm I think Matte has been quite clear on describing his context, even in very vulnerable ways, and coming from a place of valid experiences and feelings which have shaped his views. Why would you call his post nonsensical?

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@Harlen Kelly Ok then, sorry for assuming. Why would you then have this extensive argument about what issues are the biggest problem when the other side is not denying your view, but just coming up with counter examples to balance out the statements? Why would you go so far, I dont want to assume anything more than this.

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