Leo Gura

Who Wants A 2-hr Jordy P Analysis Video?

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I just finished the Jordan Peterson video and I have to say that this may be your most complete video ever. As you said, it explains all life in 2.5 hours. 

One point I have to mention though is that the title doesn't do it justice. It's so much more than a critique on JP and gives a kind of negative first impression. A title like "What is Jordan Peterson missing" would sound less aggressive  IMO.

Overall it's a true representation of the Truth about him, but when you point out the ways he could step out of his paradigm lock, you don't mention psychedelics. He has tried shrooms I and he has made lectures on them despite his lack of experience (I think he got scared from the potential he experienced in his trip). Furthermore, when you compare your level to his and you state that he hasn't directly experienced what religions talk about, you don't mention that your direct experiences were greatly aided by 5-MeO-DMT. It's known that he had a serious problem with benzos recently and maybe he can't do 5-MeO-DMT, nevertheless you could mention psychedelics.

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6 minutes ago, Kensho said:

It's so much more than a critique on JP and gives a kind of negative first impression

@Kensho No its a attempt to put his political views in a bad daylight by making strawmans.

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24 minutes ago, Kensho said:

nevertheless you could mention psychedelics.

People criticize me if I mention psychedelics, people criticize me if I don't.

I can't explain everything in one video.

I could have spent 2 more hours talking. But no one wants to listen.


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Finished the video today. If people can watch this with an open mind and without judgement it will be life-changing. All of humanity's problems explained in one video and as someone struggling with a non-dual perception of the reality, the last 15 minutes were quite mindblowing. This was like a summary of your last 2 years work handed on a silver platter. This and the integrity videos were the top so far this year. ""God"" bless your work  


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53 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Finished the video today. If people can watch this with an open mind and without judgement it will be life-changing. All of humanity's problems explained in one video and as someone struggling with a non-dual perception of the reality, the last 15 minutes were quite mindblowing. This was like a summary of your last 2 years work handed on a silver platter. This and the integrity videos were the top so far this year. ""God"" bless your work  

@Michael569 Amen. I was just writing a similar comment. Bravo, Leo. My favorite Actualized video to date. Already sent it to several friends. 

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@Leo Gura an honest appraisal. This infinity thing however, what are people going to do jump from their skeletons to electrobeams? They will live and die in this body most likely inside small amount of time to live. Many ideas like this, it feels more like "prosletising" than good conversation. All these folk in social positions they gotta be called out though so its culturally healthy. Including you lol. You say lotta stuff but the tyres have to hit the road there.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I could have spent 2 more hours talking. But no one wants to listen.

I would act like people do. This way you focus on how you can best articulate that. You say lotta good thing. But it feels like your words run around a bit.

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1 minute ago, Inva said:

You say lotta good thing. But it feels like your words run around a bit.

Yes true. He could talk a lot shorter and say more.

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

People criticize me if I mention psychedelics, people criticize me if I don't.

I can't explain everything in one video.

I could have spent 2 more hours talking. But no one wants to listen.

Hey, I want to listen. I love your voice and your content, it's amazing. Especially when you explained how conservatives are stage blue and libs are stage green. It makes total sense now. You literally explained all of civilization in two hours, or at least the big picture. I never realized what a spiderweb of a system, and convoluted, and corrupt, and how heartless some people are. But stage orange people are that way because they have to. They had to do that to "get out of their mom's basement." Then in a sense stage green is all about picking up after the big train wreck that orange caused. It's like you literally explained everything that's going on with people all around us in America. It was an amazing experience just listening to it. Its kinda counterintuitive because the guy who dumped all the crap into the river for a billion dollars ruins it for everybody. Because literally then everything loses its value, because what is money worth if everything is full of poisonous chemicals. Is anything worth buying at that point? No, also the people shitting on capitalists are idiots. Even where I live since the stimulus checks are rolling out, because if no stuff is made, money is worth nothing. Obviously people my age are lazy as hell. Pretty most my friends I grew up with are just kinda sitting around. Lol, my friend is getting paid to go to school to become an electrician and I know more about electricity than he does. Gen Z people are very very lazy. I mean I'm not lazy per say, I just cant stay focused because my mind going nuts from my adhd autism and it hurts to think from all the gas fumes I pumped in 2019, so that's why I want to become an electrical engineer to design alternative energy. Because those gas and exhaust fumes are killing us all. Just like Leo said it's the heavy metals that and all that other crap from those god forsaken oil refineries in the south. So if I can design some sort of starlight lunar solar panels. We can show up big oil and Bury their business. 


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4 minutes ago, diamondpenguin said:

I love your voice and your content, it's amazing. Especially when you explained how conservatives are stage blue and libs are stage green. It makes total sense now.

Thats wayout the weakest of the video. Hands down. But it gives you a good feeling doesn't it? He shouldn't  put activism,  in his videos.

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17 hours ago, TheDao said:

Did you really put Hitler into this? Really? Your SJW need the critique, he is helping them, but the sjw have a contracted mind, maybe because of lack of love? This contracted mind of the sjw creates conflict. It would be nice if they open their hearts. JP is more empathic and is a step ahead of them. Constantly patiently reacting to the most aggressive cancel attempts. Its impressive. He has a really broad expansive mind. The way he can show male vulnerability is nice.

By the way I just watched Jordan having a lot of critique about qanon and Trumps claims about elections. I don't know for what he votes.

Look at a video for example about psychedelics were he talks about beyond death, mysteriousness of matter, the primacy of consciousness, the importance of psychedelics and deconstruction.  He is doing a good word for psychedelics and pointing to the point beyond death.

(I am too threatening, I probably will get banned one of these days)

   In his older video he had a book about hitler in the background of his many books. Hitler is a goood exsmple of when someone quits too early in self actualisation, and takes on external purpose and values from some other group, while neglecting his own life purpose and values he internally pursues.

   Where's the video of Jordan criticising Trump and Qanon?

   No, you are just what this forum needs sometimes. Nothing more.

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12 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

 Where's the video of Jordan criticising Trump

@Danioover9000 By coincedence just yesterday watched that. He finds the Trump vote story of Trump very unlikely and the qanon a danger. He always criticizes the right and the left. But the left don't like that. Thats why you get all the projections on him.  I honestly don't know for who he would vote for.

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5 hours ago, TheDao said:

@Danioover9000 By coincedence just yesterday watched that. He finds the Trump vote story of Trump very unlikely and the qanon a danger. He always criticizes the right and the left. But the left don't like that. Thats why you get all the projections on him.  I honestly don't know for who he would vote for.

   It does sound like that if he's willing to criticize Trump and Qanon, he might consider voting someone who's conservative to centrist. 

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JP does criticize extremism on the right. The problem is that he does not talk at all about the dangers of the normal right-wing. The problem is not merely the neo-Nazis and conspiracy theorists. The problem is that like 80% of the Republican party denies basic reality and facts and gaslights like crazy and have very regressive policies. And there is a rise of right-wing authoritarianism and nationalist movements all over the world. Yet JP is crying about SJWs.

It's a mis-assessment of the real threats to democracy.

SJWs did not threaten US democracy. The right-wing did. JP has to answer for how he got it so wrong. It's not the Post-Modernists who stormed the US Capitol, it's people who gravitate towards JP's stage Blue teachings and bitterness towards SJWs.

JP exaggerates the threats of SJWs and ignores the very real threats of the right-wing: not the radicals, but even the more normal ones. For example, why does he appear on PragerU and FoxNews, both horrible and untruthful propaganda machines? This is not proper for a serious intellectual to do. He does not speak out against them nearly enough.

Stuff like PragerU, FoxNews, OAN, and NewsMax are arguably the most toxic and corrupting force in US politics. It's way worse than anything universities do. Yet you will not hear any of this listening to JP, you will hear about how bad SJWs are.


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@Leo Gura a big thanks for that JBP video.

It helped me realize my own lack of integration of stage Blue.

So once again,a big thank you and Namaste.

 

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You've been playing with concepts and thoughts like Mozart writes music in your last video. 

Thanks a lot for birthing this!

I sincerely hope Jordy and/or his entourage will watch this and get the mindfuck of their life. Though... I don't know how they'd handle the shock of facing that truth.

16 hours ago, Preety_India said:

@Leo Gura a big thanks for that JBP video.

It helped me realize my own lack of integration of stage Blue.

Yeah. Me too. Definitely got me to investigate the solidity of my blue and inspect my shadow.

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

JP does criticize extremism on the right. The problem is that he does not talk at all about the dangers of the normal right-wing. The problem is not merely the neo-Nazis and conspiracy theorists. The problem is that like 80% of the Republican party denies basic reality and facts and gaslights like crazy and have very regressive policies. And there is a rise of right-wing authoritarianism and nationalist movements all over the world. Yet JP is crying about SJWs.

It's a mis-assessment of the real threats to democracy.

SJWs did not threaten US democracy. The right-wing did. JP has to answer for how he got it so wrong. It's not the Post-Modernists who stormed the US Capitol, it's people who gravitate towards JP's stage Blue teachings and bitterness towards SJWs.

JP exaggerates the threats of SJWs and ignores the very real threats of the right-wing: not the radicals, but even the more normal ones. For example, why does he appear on PragerU and FoxNews, both horrible and untruthful propaganda machines? This is not proper for a serious intellectual to do. He does not speak out against them nearly enough.

Stuff like PragerU, FoxNews, OAN, and NewsMax are arguably the most toxic and corrupting force in US politics. It's way worse than anything universities do. Yet you will not hear any of this listening to JP, you will hear about how bad SJWs are.

A lot of the criticism for stage Green folks lays there as well, regarding JP.

And it's 100% valid. One's got to laugh at how he sees pronouns as a threat for free speech and democracy while he's turning a blind eye on how serious the right wing corruption is.

I don't know. I think he got traumatized somewhat due to the cold war or something. He even went as far as calling his daughter Mikhaila in honor of Gorbatchov. He's got an odd fixation with socialism.

Maybe someone made him a prophecy as a child that he'd get rekt by a hero born in the USSR. Lol :P

 

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The problem is that like 80% of the Republican party denies basic reality and facts and gaslights like crazy and have very regressive policies

They will probably think the same about your side.

 

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For example, why does he appear on PragerU and FoxNews, both horrible and untruthful propaganda machines?

Why do you only see one side? CNN is just as hurtful. Is caught a lot with people even saying they are manipulating. CNN has made a lot of wars possible. I don't see a fundamental difference there.

Why only there, because other media don't want to listen to him, are threatened by him because they can't debunk his critique, so they only strawmen and try to cancel him. He probably wants a more productive discussion.

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Stuff like PragerU, FoxNews, OAN, and NewsMax are arguably the most toxic and corrupting force in US politics. It's way worse than anything universities do. 

Keep on repeating old hurt in history which is very long ago and looking everywhere about how you are oppressed as a group and leaving out the other side of the story are a big recipy for making people angry and aggressive. It happens all the time as a prephase for war.  I think you underestimate this danger. You will never get equality of outcome. Even if you will put massive amounts of money in it. You'll will still have certain cultures doing better or worse, it is making people angry to keep on blaming the more successful side for being discriminatory. Yes you can give somewhat equal chances and that's the best you can do. But progressive will strawmen this logic saying that these arguments say this means I dont want equality of chances, that is not true.

 

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@TheDao Dude, open your mind if you're gonna be here. You are turning into an ideologue troll.


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8 minutes ago, TheDao said:

You will never get equality of outcome.

 

There's a whole section in the JP video about how the vast majority of Green people don't want equality of outcome and those that do are on the extreme side

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