Slow Carb Diet

[KingEnergy]

Recently read the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris.
 

He proposes the slow carb diet to lose fat:

1. Only carbs you can eat are from vegetables, beans and lentils

2. Eat the same recipes over and over again

3. Don’t drink calories

4. No Fruit

5. One cheat day per week

 

Has anyone tried this diet and got results? How quick?

[KingEnergy]

@neutralempty thanks haha.

@Michael569 Too much sugar (its a diet for losing fat)

[mandyjw]

I did it hardcore a few years ago. Felt great for a short time then felt weird on it, and then later developed major digestive issues. I still can't eat beans and lentils without stomach problems today. Cheat day doesn't help with stomach issues and can psychologically really frig up your eating. My blood pressure was really high because when you cut carbs like that you inadvertently end up with high amounts of salt, especially with the recommended foods on the diet. It did teach me a lot though, I learned a huge amount of self discipline from following it and how important protein is in the mornings, and how effective simple carbs are at making you hungry.  

I eat lots of fruit, whole grain carbs and get plenty of protein now and I'm thinner than I ever got on the slow carb diet, all while using WAY less willpower. 

5 hours ago, Michael569 said:

what's his argument against it? 

Says fructose is the devil, is most easily stored as fat and it ages you. 

[KingEnergy]

4 hours ago, Michael569 said:

And losing your health as well I'd say. Anyone who tells you fruit is bad for you because of sugar is completely clueless about nutrition. 

What are the nutrients from fruit that you can’t get from vegetables?

[Leo Gura]

20 hours ago, KingEnergy said:

Recently read the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris.
 

He proposes the slow carb diet to lose fat:

1. Only carbs you can eat are from vegetables, beans and lentils

2. Eat the same recipes over and over again

3. Don’t drink calories

4. No Fruit

5. One cheat day per week

 

Has anyone tried this diet and got results? How quick?

Here's an even better diet:

1. Only carbs from non-starchy vegetables and low/med-sugar fruits like blueberries, apples, oranges, etc. No bean, no lintels, no corn, no rice, no wheat, no oats.
2. Have 3 recipes you cycle so you don't get bored.
3. Don't drink calories other than low-sugar veggie juices like tomato, celery, cucumber, etc.
4. Liberal use of high quality oils like olive, avocado, coconut.
5. Lots of lean protein like chicken or turkey. Or eggs if you tolerate them.
6. No cheat days.

[Leo Gura]

Low sugar fruits are definitely a must for good nutrition. Berries and such. All that colorful plant pigment is like natural medicine.

Just try to avoid overly sugary and carby fruits like bananas and watermelons.

[Opo]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Just try to avoid overly sugary and carby fruits like bananas and watermelons.

Would a banana before exercise be healthy? 

[Leo Gura]

49 minutes ago, Opo said:

Would a banana before exercise be healthy? 

Look man, don't get anal about it.

It's not like eating a few bananas will kill you.

[Timur]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Low sugar fruits are definitely a must for good nutrition. Berries and such. All that colorful plant pigment is like natural medicine.

What is your opinion on frozen berries?

 

I would like to buy fresh berries everytime but frozen ones are much cheaper. 

[Opo]

54 minutes ago, Timur said:

What is your opinion on frozen berries?

 

I would like to buy fresh berries everytime but frozen ones are much cheaper. 

I remember reading that frozen blueberries are picked later so they have more of something that is good for you. 

Couldn't find it again but I've found this. 

https://www.bcblueberry.com/features/feature-articles/could-frozen-blueberries-be-even-healthier-fresh-berries

But i fear pesticides from frozen ones. Should I melt them and put them in water, vinegar and baking soda solution, and then freeze them again?

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Timur said:

What is your opinion on frozen berries?

I would like to buy fresh berries everytime but frozen ones are much cheaper. 

Frozen is good l think.

Hard to know about the pesticides. Definitely go for organic berries in all cases.

[Jacob Morres]

29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Organic

whatre your thoughts on organic? 

[vinc3nc]

On 18. 9. 2020 at 5:15 AM, KingEnergy said:

Recently read the 4 hour body by Tim Ferris.
 

He proposes the slow carb diet to lose fat:

1. Only carbs you can eat are from vegetables, beans and lentils

2. Eat the same recipes over and over again

3. Don’t drink calories

4. No Fruit

5. One cheat day per week

 

Has anyone tried this diet and got results? How quick?

"How quick" is the problem right there for you. If you want fast results, then you don't have the right mindset to begin with. You need to change your lifestyle to be slim, fit, or whatever. And to change your lifestyle permanently, that requires some time, probably at least a year - to be able to sustain that change.

[lmfao]

@KingEnergy Right now I've been losing a bit of weight.

Credit due to David Hawkins, his advice has helped me. Although I don't know if it's his advice or just me anyway. His take on this is that essentially, most our desire to eat is surface level "Pavlovian Conditioning" that can be overwritten without too much effort. When you feel "hungry", you stop calling it hunger and let go resisting it.

Trying to force myself to let go, I've gotten in a few wars with myself which isn't good for anybody. But overall it's worked. We don't need to eat nearly so frequently as we think. 

Another strategy is to eat when you aren't "hungry". That way you aren't re-enforcing the false conditioning. But if you eat whilst operating on that false conditioning, you're making it stronger.

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by lmfao

[Opo]

41 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Frozen is a usually better alternative with berries. Often picked at peak of ripeness and flash-freezing preserves most water-soluble vitamins. Minerals are always retained. I always just add them to a bit of warm water and this way you defreeze and wash at the same time. Takes a bit longer but you'll save money on buying frozen berries. You also minimise all the additional handling and picking as frozen once packaged don't get touched by anyone. 

Don't bother with vinegar, you cannot really remove pesticides from the fruits, it is located inside the structure of the berry and can't be removed. Benefits of berries outweigh the cost of any pesticides so it is still a good idea to eat them. Have organic if possible but if not, non-organic are still ok. 

Thanks. 

Can't buy organic here but I can easily grow them. 

[KingEnergy]

22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Here's an even better diet:

1. Only carbs from non-starchy vegetables and low/med-sugar fruits like blueberries, apples, oranges, etc. No bean, no lintels, no corn, no rice, no wheat, no oats.
2. Have 3 recipes you cycle so you don't get bored.
3. Don't drink calories other than low-sugar veggie juices like tomato, celery, cucumber, etc.
4. Liberal use of high quality oils like olive, avocado, coconut.
5. Lots of lean protein like chicken or turkey. Or eggs if you tolerate them.
6. No cheat days.

Thanks, so you propose no cheat days. I want to lose fat, do you think 2 cheat meals per week is still good? Still want to enjoy some pasta or something once in a while.

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, KingEnergy said:

Still want to enjoy some pasta or something once in a while.

Just let it go. No more pasta ever.

Cheats meals are harder than just eating clean all the time.

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, datamonster said:

What's wrong with beans, lentils, rice and oats?

It is empty sugar calories without much nutrients.

Most high-calorie staple foods are like that. By design.

[UnbornTao]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is empty sugar calories without much nutrients.

Beans and lentils? 

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/increased-lifespan-from-beans/

 

[Adam M]

Idk man I think all fruits are healthy as fuck. Even the ones that are high in sugar.

I always reccomend Anthony William's diet advice...his last book cleanse to heal answers all these questions and more

 

Also, cheat days are pure stupidity. Do you want to be healthy or not?

Edited September 20, 2020 by Adam M