Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Forestluv said: I don’t know exactly how Carville and Cenk figured their 5 pt number. I was speculating. Yeah, actually that's what I was wondering too. 5 hours ago, Forestluv said: Yes Alright, well that sounds reassuring. 5 hours ago, Forestluv said: The PA Supreme Court ruled to allow certification to continue. I think that there is enough corruption and weak spots in the system that if the election was a bit closer and Trump had a competent legal / media team he could have pulled it off. That's true with the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling and yes both the Trump media/campaign and Trump legal teams actually bungled a lot of it themselves. However, after about 4 days ago when Cenk said that Trump is finally finished after Penn got certified for Biden, he now is back to saying that Republicans in PA actually has a possibility of being able to steal the election. He says that the Republicans lawmakers in PA are now going for the steal and that they have about a 5% chance of being able to pull it off by overturning the certified win for Biden and awarding their electoral votes to Biden. From what I also understand, it sounds like Cenk is also strongly implying that this kind of problem could as well happen in the other battleground states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardkill said: However, after about 4 days ago when Cenk said that Trump is finally finished after Penn got certified for Biden, he now is back to saying that Republicans in PA actually has a possibility of being able to steal the election. He says that the Republicans lawmakers in PA are now going for the steal and that they have about a 5% chance of being able to pull it off by overturning the certified win for Biden and awarding their electoral votes to Biden. From what I also understand, it sounds like Cenk is also strongly implying that this kind of problem could as well happen in the other battleground states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, etc. As I wrote above, I think there are weak points in the U.S. democratic system. Trump has been a stress test. If the election was a bit closer a competent authoritarian with a skilled legal / media team might be able to pull it off. We are fortunate there was a decent margin of victory and that Trump and his team is an incompetent clown show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 29, 2020 He is purposely trying to sideline you so you will think that he doesn't care about you. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Forestluv said: As I wrote above, I think there are weak points in the U.S. democratic system. Trump has been a stress test. If the election was a bit closer a competent authoritarian with a skilled legal / media team might be able to pull it off. We are fortunate there was a decent margin of victory and that Trump and his team is an incompetent clown show. Don't worry, the Democrats will do nothing to fix the issues Trump exposed, so next time the Republicans will learn what didn't work and do everything needed to exploit the broken system to maintain total control next election. Biden winning was just a minor few year setback. This authoritarian attempt was just a first try, of course it would fail. The most likely future major issues to come from this can of course be obverted if the Democrats learned something and take great effort to change laws to ensure this can never happen, but naww lets get back to business as usual, that should take care of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 If they don't create more powerful laws to protect democracy, we will have an authoritarian government soon... This is getting crazy... The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 I now predict that the Democrats actually have committed massive voter fraud. The Republicans got incredibly heavy and serious witnesses! Including experts on forensics, cyber security including from the intelligence community. And they have sworn oats on their testimonies. I can't just ignore that. Looks like pretty credible evidence to me. So are the Democrats and the DNC corrupt? No, I don't think so. So how does that compute? If they have committed a huge voter fraud how can they not be corrupt? Well, in my opinion we have to look at the bigger picture. Think nonpartisan strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anderz said: I now predict that the Democrats actually have committed massive voter fraud. The Republicans got incredibly heavy and serious witnesses! Including experts on forensics, cyber security including from the intelligence community. And they have sworn oats on their testimonies. I can't just ignore that. Looks like pretty credible evidence to me. So are the Democrats and the DNC corrupt? No, I don't think so. So how does that compute? If they have committed a huge voter fraud how can they not be corrupt? Well, in my opinion we have to look at the bigger picture. Think nonpartisan strategy. Soo, you have credible sources for each one of these accusations then? **heard it from Trump's legal team, GOP spreading lies w/o evidence, Fox News, OANN, or Trump himself, are all not even close to credible sources of facts and truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 @Sempiternity It's just my personal opinion. Others will probably say that they are weak witnesses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Anderz said: @Sempiternity It's just my personal opinion. Others will probably say that they are weak witnesses. So you admit that you just made up that Democrats have committed massive voter fraud, and Republicans have "heavy and serious witnesses, including experts on forensics, cyber security including from the intelligence community, and they have sworn oaths testimonies", without any proof or evidence and not based on any facts whatsoever. Got it. Thanks for contributing. Edited November 30, 2020 by Sempiternity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 He wants it both ways Lmao!!!! Trump Takes Credit For ‘Most Secure Election Ever’ But Says It Was ‘Rigged’ https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5faec5cbc5b6d05e86e697b9 The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, Anderz said: I now predict that the Democrats actually have committed massive voter fraud. The Republicans got incredibly heavy and serious witnesses! Including experts on forensics, cyber security including from the intelligence community. And they have sworn oats on their testimonies. I can't just ignore that. Looks like pretty credible evidence to me. So are the Democrats and the DNC corrupt? No, I don't think so. So how does that compute? If they have committed a huge voter fraud how can they not be corrupt? Well, in my opinion we have to look at the bigger picture. Think nonpartisan strategy. 31 minutes ago, Anderz said: @Sempiternity It's just my personal opinion. Others will probably say that they are weak witnesses. Oh my fucking God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 Quote Donald Trump on election night was like "Mad King George, muttering, 'I won. I won. I won,' " according to one close adviser, who spoke to The Washington Post for a remarkable recap of the 20 days since the election. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/election-results-trump-king-george-b1763487.html The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth—it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 @Sempiternity I admit that I don't know. Like all predictions, it could turn out false. But I wanted to make the prediction and then compare it to what the actual result will be. I understand that the witnesses could even be false, but to me some of them seem like having really heavy and relevant credentials. That was what made me make the prediction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 The director of cyber security, Chris Krebs, debunks claims of massive fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 @abrakamowse irrelevant but still relevant. Diaper Don is so real lol INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 @Forestluv I trust Chris Krebs and think that he has done an honest job as the Director of Cybersecurity (CISA). I still predict massive voting fraud though. Just in case there is an unbelievable stunt going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Anderz said: I still predict massive voting fraud though. Even though almost every source is saying it has been the most secure election is U.S. history. And even with the numerous recounts confirming that the results were true and there was no fraud. All facts pointing to a fair and just election. The recounts are pretty much done, the states certified, the court cases exhausted, you still think after all that there is going to be some miraculous huge out of the blue revelation of massive voting fraud? Not for me to understand I guess. But I honor your right to have whatever opinion you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Forestluv said: The director of cyber security, Chris Krebs, debunks claims of massive fraud. Yeah, that was really good that 60 minutes did this interview. Edited November 30, 2020 by Hardkill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 @Sempiternity Yes, it's a really shaky prediction I have made. And my position is actually that I'm still on the fence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Anderz said: @Sempiternity Yes, it's a really shaky prediction I have made. And my position is actually that I'm still on the fence. Why don't you just get your head straight, stop being on the fence, and realize that Trump lost and he's a liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
