How do enlightened people perceive thoughts/mental noise?

[RedLine]

Are they permanently in silence without thoughts/mental noise? Or do they have the same mental noise that before enlightment but they are aware of them?

 

 

[James123]

@RedLine Thoughts, visuals, sensations, feelings are identical as nothing. Which is you.

[VeganAwake]

Yes it's the whole show. Whatever arises and simultaneously whatever doesn't arise, is all IT... it's not separate. 

0 = Infinity

[traveler]

The individual is the noise in the appearance. 

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

12 hours ago, ivankiss said:

In the state of an empty mind - when no thought arises; full immersion in pure presence/beingness becomes that much more delicious. Everything slows down and shines bright. Pure Light and Love.

Do you experience that "state of an empty mind" very often these days?

[James123]

14 hours ago, ivankiss said:

n the state of an empty mind - when no thought arises; full immersion in pure presence/beingness becomes that much more delicious.

This is not a state. State or duality happens within the so called mind. 

Edited July 19, 2020 by James123

[Member]

Thinking is not bad, negative/useless thoughts or overthinking is. Enlightened people have useful/enlightened thoughts. Without thoughts man is  savage, not any different than an animal lol.

[James123]

4 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@James123 Says the guy who keeps repeating that words are empty of all meaning.

Choose another word that suits your definitions then.

Words, life, existence is me as nothing. Thats why it is empty. But emptiness is not meaningless, it is infiniteness. This is the Truth. Not the alice wonderland.

[Rilles]

Like clouds in the sky. I guess.

[Member]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Words, life, existence is me as nothing. Thats why it is empty. But emptiness is not meaningless, it is infiniteness. This is the Truth. Not the alice wonderland.

Nobody takes no responsibility just like this guy ?

 

[James123]

6 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

You keep clinging to 'nothing' terrified of fully letting go. 

Truth is synonymous with Love. 

Brother, nothing is nothing and simultaneously everything (love is still something).  you are not awaken. This conversation ends. 
 

23 minutes ago, Member said:

Nobody takes no responsibility just like this guy ?

 

 ? this is exactly what happens when you are awake (i dont know who is this guy). ? but ego dont like it. It wants to have the control of body or say “ i know better”.  

[James123]

6 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

No offense; but I am light-years ahead of you.

? ? ? there is no “me” or “you”. We are identical. When you say i am ahead of you, Of course you are, you are in full force of spiritual ego.  Because there is no “you”. This statement demonstrates that you have no idea what enlightenment is. Because when you become enlightened, there will be no you. And dont tell people you are in no mind, just dont lie. good luck. 

[VeganAwake]

❤

 

[James123]

8 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

❤

 

 this is egoistical nothing. Nothing is simultaneously everything. Whatever is in front of you is you. So, you behave to others the way that yourself. Because all there is you as nothing. This video dont make any sense even as a joke ? instead of wathcing go help to stop the fire  

Edited July 19, 2020 by James123

[VeganAwake]

18 minutes ago, James123 said:

 this is egoistical nothing. Nothing is simultaneously everything. Whatever is in front of you is you. So, you behave to others the way that yourself. Because all there is you as nothing. This video dont make any sense even as a joke ? instead of wathcing go help to stop the fire  

Yes it's incredible how before even thinking occurs we instinctually help ❤

 

[James123]

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

 

@James123 You and I are not, were never and will never be identical. - Thank God. 

 

There is no “I” or “you”. You are the moment. 

 

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Nothing' is forever silent

Every voice happens within nothingness, therefore nothingness is not silence. It is you. Everything is you.

 

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Does the unicorn that's non-existent run around yelling that it does not exist? No. That's what deluded 'egos' do.

I am not in body or mind. Body and mind is an illusion. I am nothing therefore everything. Even you lol ? ? ? 

 

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

You had an insight or two and have not yet awakened to the fact that all insights and realizations are also traps in disguise.

There is no i t o have a insight. I am the insight.  
 

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Only then 'nothing' truly is. And when it speaks; it speaks Love - with a unique twist and flavour.

 

Yes, because, Only nothing happens when you are truly you are. Because you are all there is.  “Love speaks a unique twist and flavour” this is an expectation of ego and just a thought.  
 

   16 minutes ago,  ivankiss said: 

You're just chewing on the same bunch of words over and over again

When you become non dual, there is not much to say differently. All is just directly and same. 

Edited July 19, 2020 by James123

[traveler]

@ivankiss You seem to have a lot of resistance to the word "nothing." It is just a word, you have no idea what it points to and you never will, because it is pointing to nothing. ? Nothing has no charge, it does not exclude anything, it is boundless.

I do have the sense as you do, that many spits the word "nothing" with only a conceptual understanding that it isn't a thing. In the dream nothing is just a weird koan for the person.

Edited July 19, 2020 by traveler

[traveler]

5 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@traveler There is no resistance, but a Will of Being. I'm only letting ya know what 'nothing' actually is. In demonstration.

How are you going to let something know what nothing is? Something can never know nothing, when the indvidual (something) falls away nothing is recognised. No one knows what nothing is.

When I say nothing is recognised, it is literal. It isn't nothing (something called nothing) that is recognised, no, it is literally that nothing is recognised. Totally free and open to be whatever. And here "we" apparently are.

Edited July 19, 2020 by traveler

[James123]

14 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@James123 It's actually kinda sad to see how desperately you try not being you.

There is no illusion. Never was, never will be. Wake up.

Everything is (made of) you. You are pure, Love-Light. No exceptions. No exclusions. It's all as real as it gets. Only while climbing up the mountain does one see and believe in illusions. The Heavenly Light of perfection descending down to the ground; does not.

 

 

this all statement provides that you are nothing, because in order to be everything you have to be nothing. Otherwise how can you be identical with everything? 
 

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

You are stuck in a dream of blame, denial and negation, brother. You are sound asleep. - Clinging to ideas that represent 'the highest truth' to you. It's not really my issue - just letting ya know. I am enjoying the exchange of thoughts. It lets me know where I am and  where you are not. - Where I once was and where you are now.

There is no you. good luck my enlightened friend  you are the first in kind that enlightened and “I or self” still reminds. Lmfaooo. I am out ? 

[traveler]

10 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

When 'Nothing' is truly recognized; Love is.

You really thought you did something there, huh? Nothing is still a "thing" there, something to achieve and recognise. Nothing is nothing. THIS is the end of the search.

Edited July 19, 2020 by traveler