Please clarify me this: Its God personal or unpersonal?

[Nak Khid]

A dog's consciousness doesn't create the world anymore than a movie does.    

[Carl-Richard]

@Nak Khid Veganism DEBUNKED..... ? 

[Nak Khid]

20 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

That's an assumption.

Dogs actually do create worlds. Especially puppies.

that's why I didn't include puppies 

[Gili Trawangan]

Obviously it's both personal and impersonal. It's everything.

[Nahm]

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

God is the present moment/Existence.       I see it as a numb/null thing that is just doing it's thing 

Both can’t be true. 

[SamueLSD]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

personal

This is confusing. God isn't a person, therefore it is not personal. 

'You' aren't a person. 

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, SamueLSD said:

This is confusing. God isn't a person, therefore it is not personal. 

'You' aren't a person. 

How do you define person?

[SamueLSD]

@Carl-Richard

1.

a human being regarded as an individual.

[Javfly33]

9 hours ago, Nahm said:

Both can’t be true. 

Damn Good observation ??

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, SamueLSD said:

God isn't a person

You.

God is you.

[Aaron p]

15 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Please clarify me this: Is God personal or unpersonal?

I know what your asking. DMT shows you that you are not as much as a "person" as you once thought, and also that the universe is not as much of an "impersonal machine" as you once thought. This is one way in which I do understand non-duality. Dumb vs personal. I think I grasp this...what we know a "person" to be is actually just a complex composition of what we know "impersonal" stuff to be. Enough rocks and dust and molecules in the right formation, we get a "person"

[Nak Khid]

1)  A "personal" god usually refers to a god that cares about you if you have faith in god.

2)  Another form of god is impersonal,  an energy or essence  behind nature which doesn't  care about things, it is not human-like in that regard 

3)  "You are God 1" everything is personal  and derives from you  there is no other consciousness but yours 

4) "You are God 2"  ,  "you" means all of consciousness, everything is also personal 

5) "You are God 2"  ,  "you" means all of consciousness,  "personal" is a meaningless concept 

So depending on which god you believe in.   

[Javfly33]

23 minutes ago, Aaron p said:

I know what your asking. DMT shows you that you are not as much as a "person" as you once thought, and also that the universe is not as much of an "impersonal machine" as you once thought. This is one way in which I do understand non-duality. Dumb vs personal. I think I grasp this...what we know a "person" to be is actually just a complex composition of what we know "impersonal" stuff to be. Enough rocks and dust and molecules in the right formation, we get a "person"

Interesting observation. Thanks @Aaron p

[SamueLSD]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You.

God is you.

Yes yes, I just ... personally....  find the word 'personal' limited and misleading.

[Nahm]

Personal and impersonal are only thoughts, beliefs. 

[Artaemis]

9 hours ago, Nak Khid said:

5) "You are God 2"  ,  "you" means all of consciousness,  "personal" is a meaningless concept 

6 hours ago, Nahm said:

Personal and impersonal are only thoughts, beliefs. 

It breaks down eventually. 

But can be helpful depending on where you are on the path. 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Artaemis

[Conscious life]

I like to see God as creator and myself as a created microcosm being, that looks and image of God. that has a similar operating system and potential like God with limited form. saying I am God literally kills the concept of God. when we refer God we are talking about the creator of the entire universe. as long as we didn't create the entire thing it only deluding ourselves. 

[Conscious life]

On 6/9/2020 at 3:37 PM, Leo Gura said:

You.

God is you.

@Leo Gura we aren't God, we are sons of God. if we say we are God it literally kills the concept of God. when we say God, the one that creates everything, such as human, animals, insects, planet, black hole etc. we are Gods in our essence, we have the same operating system (soul) and sprit like God. we are made in the images of God, as long as we are in state of human form we cannot label ourselves God. 

[Carl-Richard]

@Conscious life Why separate yourself from God?

[mandyjw]

4 hours ago, Conscious life said:

@Leo Gura we aren't God, we are sons of God. if we say we are God it literally kills the concept of God. when we say God, the one that creates everything, such as human, animals, insects, planet, black hole etc. we are Gods in our essence, we have the same operating system (soul) and sprit like God. we are made in the images of God, as long as we are in state of human form we cannot label ourselves God. 

Leo's "you are God" pointer was a huge help to me coming from a Christian background and lots of imagining a God that was all powerful and to be revered "thing" outside of myself. That's the thing about pointers though, they are only helpful if the person you're pointing for the benefit of is standing next to you and not in some opposite direction across the room.