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Psychedelics & DPDR

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13 hours ago, fridjonk said:

@Dand Thanks, ultimately I'm shooting for a breakthrough dose. 

Good luck! If it's your first time I'd definitely work your way up haha, I haven't broken through but I was very close and even having had tried it a few times I was not expecting that level of weirdness!

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21 hours ago, PlayTheGame said:

Why would people even want to do salvia after all these reports. Wtf is wrong with people are you all masochist?

   Salvia isn't really a psychedelic, it's a delirient. It's like confusing cocaine, hard drug, for Psilocybin mushrooms, a psychedelic, and guess how dangerous that would be to misidentify some substance. It's not good to take if you do have severe DP/Dr of any other disorder. Delirients are poisonous plants as well. Datura is a classic delirient that's lethal.

   

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@Dand haha yes I'll be very careful with this stuff, small doses first. From the trip reports I've read, it really varies what to expect, some have total non-dual god awakening while others become a fence or an orange glass. I'm currently working on purifying my soul now with other psychedelics and practices.

I will sure as fuck not take Salvia lightly. It doesn't sound like something to mess with at all.  

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On 27/3/2020 at 5:21 PM, PlayTheGame said:

@arlin Thanks for sharing your experience, I hope you're ok now. Have you ever done psychedelics and how did they affect your DPDR?

I've never done psychedelics but i did a circular breathing technique which gave rise to those experiences.

I am better now, i don't have severe symptoms. But occasionally i doubt that i have free will and this makes me feel as though everything i do is useless, i don't know, it's awfull.

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On 26.3.2020 at 2:03 AM, electroBeam said:

DPDR is an enlightenment experience that you resist. 

I've had DPDR from weed many times before, and IMO it's quantitatively different from an enlightenment experience. DPDR from weed feels like you've put on a helmet. Enlightenment experience feels like a helmet has been taken off.

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Posted (edited)

While Salvia can be absolutely astonishing/terrifying/chaotic, keep in mind it only lasts a few minutes. After 10 minutes you will be your 100% sober normal self. (This is smoking Salvia, I wouldn't recommend other forms of intake.) Like Leo said people can have the experience of feeling "locked away" like you'll never come back, but this is just a temporary trick and sensation. After you are sober again in a few minutes you won't have any of those feelings residing. There is tremendous comfort in this.

There is no drawn out come down or post-trip brain fog where you feel sick or on the brink of insanity for hours at a time.

In this safe it's actually quite safe and low risk, in my opinion. Just make sure you have someone watching you, so you don't walk around and trip and hit your head or something.

If you are looking to try your first psychedelic, it's a good starter, because it's so damn short and you are quickly sober. Just get the least potent version you can find and don't take too big a hit.

The question you have to ask is are you willing to experience having your reality replaced with something completely different? Does that interest you at all? If so Salvia is the drug for you. Interesting in the very least.

Edited by Roy

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Enlightenment is the complete opposite of DPDR, Shinzen Young also made a topic about this (he called it the evil twin). 

It is very easy to think that Enlightenment is like DPDR but that just comes from those simple minded persons who never were enlightened and never had DPDR.  

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18 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

Salvia isn't really a psychedelic, it's a delirient.

It's more a mix of psychedelic + dissociative. Not a deliriant and not poisonous as far as I know.

I think you're confusing it with datura -- which shouldn't be taken.


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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I think you're confusing it with datura -- which shouldn't be taken.

All psychiatrists and psychologists who treat schizophrenic patients should try datura at least once

Edited by electroBeam

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19 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

All psychiatrists and psychologists who treat schizophrenic patients should try datura at least once

No, because then they will be the ones in treatment.

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Just now, Carl-Richard said:

No, because then they will be the ones in treatment.

for only a few days 

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26 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

All psychiatrists and psychologists who treat schizophrenic patients should try datura at least once

4g to 6g of mushrooms should be enough ;)


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Posted (edited)

I wouldn’t recommend experimenting w psychedelics if you have DPDR. I’ve tried using just about every psychedelic there is including bufo alvarius and ayahuasca and while the trips werent too bad, it seemed to only aggravate the DPDR which made it even harder to recover from the disorder. I’m pretty sure the only way to cure DPDR is through intense exercise which is explained in this thread if you want to look into it

https://www.dpselfhelp.com/forum/index.php?/topic/90898-my-ultimate-cure-to-dpdr/

 

 

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@sausagehead This is very interesting. i never considered this alternative before. But i do know that dp/dr is a state of your nervous system being shut down because it's believing you are dying. It's more trauma related. Maybe physical exercice wakes up the nervouse system and so here it is the explenation.

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On 29/03/2020 at 1:37 PM, electroBeam said:

All psychiatrists and psychologists who treat schizophrenic patients should try datura at least once

   I wouldn't recommend Datura to my enemies. That's how dangerous it is. Either Psilocybin mushroom for the visual hallucinations, or Salvia for understanding deeper psychosis in those patients. Angel's trumpet tea is probably enough.

On 29/03/2020 at 0:06 PM, Leo Gura said:

It's more a mix of psychedelic + dissociative. Not a deliriant and not poisonous as far as I know.

I think you're confusing it with datura -- which shouldn't be taken.

   Thanks for correction.

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