Why Talent Is Overrated in Spirituality (Shinzen Young Case Study)

[Key Elements]

4 hours ago, Aakash said:

@Key Elements 

“To love or not to love” , “to be love or not to be love” 

this is all three parts of the trinity . 

I call these two other parts detachment. I listed detachment as another principle of life based on the awakening. When you have your awakening, you become everything, yet you're completely detached from everything. You're just at peace being, even when you're making transformations. Yet, the ego thinks all this is grandiose. It's not, but it certainly looks like that to the ego. But, if you understand how to become detached in life, you'll be ok. You got to apply it in the right places as you go along in life.

 

1 hour ago, Aakash said:

@Key Elements The only question really is how deep is your understanding, 

Well, if I have to describe it, my list of principles will go on and on and on...

[Aakash]

@Key Elements interesting would love to be a student ??. Of the life purpose side to hear what you have to say... not the enlightenment side. 

Thats when your ready to of course, my current life purpose is to build a business empire which injects a virus into every major system. Corrupting it with love ? but that’s a long long way away. Dream big, start with small steps. I love my systems ahah 

That’s good to hear! If it didn’t go on and on to infinity. It wouldn’t be infinite knowledge now would it 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

@Key Elements When you finally get all links together. 

You will say omfg

Expect Unexpected. 

You were God whole time. 

Including all mystical states of Consciousness. 

Edited August 1, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[Key Elements]

23 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Key Elements When you finally get all links together. 

You will say omfg

Trust me. You won't be speaking like a human ego once you've reached that point. Didn't I say that it's not grandiose?

[Key Elements]

7 hours ago, Aakash said:

@Key Elements interesting would love to be a student ??. Of the life purpose side to hear what you have to say... not the enlightenment side. 

Not the enlightenment side? Hmm..ok it's up to you. I can't go into explaining it. It's not interesting if things are explained. Showing is interesting. But, let me say that one of my profound indications involved the opening of a Brahma Kamal Flower in an unusual way. I'm pretty sure you know what kind of auspicious flower that is.

Also, the more and more I go along, the more I realize that this guy is correct when he said in his video, "I don't want everyone watching my videos. It's not for everyone. Come and find me when you're ready." It's best if ppl go for you because they were authentically looking for the information you presented instead of you going around telling ppl.

[Aakash]

@Key Elements it’s inevitable, the more loving you are. The less you want things to change.

My view on it is this- 

if you are  a fractal, which you are. If you radiate, then there is no where it can go besides “the whole of absolute infinity” itself. This is regardless of what your mission you’ve tasked yourself with is. Once you found it, you specialise when people come to you. You don’t go out there finding. However in the begginning it’s advisable for people to. If their plan requires it. 

Overall yes I agree with the video. 

Anyways I am interested to hear what you have to say. I’m leaving now, so I’ll sort you out in the future. 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Aakash

[Key Elements]

12 hours ago, Aakash said:

@Key Elements You don’t go out there finding. However in the begginning it’s advisable for people to. If their plan requires it. 

How? Just put an ad in the appropriate place. The ppl who are that interested will find you.

12 hours ago, Aakash said:

@Key Elements Anyways I am interested to hear what you have to say. I’m leaving now, so I’ll sort you out in the future. 

Good luck. Well, I'm flattered!  You seriously want to sort me out? 

[Aakash]

@Key Elements lol i meant like I’ll come find you to hear what you have to say and yes advertising is the need to persuade catch-22. Anyways ? trying to be a ninja. So message me on private chat if you want to talk. Otherwise ?? Good luck 

also I’ve identified source and it’s a shapeshifter in its highest terms. That’s why people have different enlightenments. I assume (since mine was not deep I can’t say with 100% certainty) that we experienced similar things, the switching back and forth. That is not omnisciency, I got it wrong. Omniscient is something much more radical than this. It’s you as a strange loop. So if we are talking about as what shizen was  talking about then I don’t think people understand that a shapeshifter Is a magical thing 

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Aakash

[Key Elements]

38 minutes ago, Aakash said:

@Key Elements Omniscient is something much more radical than this. 

Isn't being No-self, Omniscient already? If you add the transformations, it's called enlightenment. Like I said, I didn't go into explaining every single details about the awakening.

[DrewNows]

48 minutes ago, Aakash said:

Anyways ? trying to be a ninja.

There is no trying, only doing or not doing  

[Aakash]

@Key Elements it can’t be because no self is about merging in my opinion. 

Omniscient requires you to accept responsibility for being god so therefore it automatically can not be no self. 

No self was an interesting Thing, but ultimately is about ending suffering. It’s not about finding truth 

edit: I read your message too quick. It didn’t register. 

Yes you are right. It would be enlightenment. However I think enlightenment is a broad term and id rather just call no self , enlightenment. Because let’s say you perminantly stayed in no-self that would be enlightenment. So I would just call it the base of it. Adding the transformations makes you omniscient, the reason being is because the number of facets could be plentiful. 

I was on the train, trying to locate where exactly infinite mind was happening. How could each individual unit have infinite mind. I couldn’t find the answer. But this could only be done from a position of accepting yourself as god. I couldn’t do it from no self 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Aakash

[Aakash]

@DrewNows ahaha man! More justifications is excuses. It will happen. I never realised I left a thread unclosed. This is a problem I’ve had since child hood if I was texting someone I would need them to say good night first before leaving! I hate this unresolved feeling of a conversation not completed. I will wait for a reply until it happens 

[DrewNows]

19 minutes ago, Aakash said:

@DrewNows ahaha man! More justifications is excuses. It will happen. I never realised I left a thread unclosed. This is a problem I’ve had since child hood if I was texting someone I would need them to say good night first before leaving! I hate this unresolved feeling of a conversation not completed. I will wait for a reply until it happens 

Yes it will when you don’t force it. Sounds like a good feeling to continue investigating. The mind likes to cling to thought but does thought run the mind, or does thought and mind divide itself and run along emotion...

it’s not bad but boy does it drag us along if we don’t SEE the whole process as one ☝️ 

[Aakash]

@DrewNows probably closure leaves unopened answers . Just like I had to figure out absolute infinity lol 

[mandyjw]

2 hours ago, Aakash said:

 I hate this unresolved feeling of a conversation not completed. I will wait for a reply until it happens 

Every goodbye is a kind of death. 

[Aakash]

@mandyjw ahah such a beautifully written verse. Absolutely!! The beginning of a new chapter is always marked by death ?

[mandyjw]

@Joseph Maynor Huh? 

[Esoteric]

[zeroISinfinity]

[Aakash]

@Key Elements  is the conversation done? Have we both successfully understood each others point of view? 

Its true you haven't said everything about your position, but since you know its nirvana. I can assume it is omniscient, just like with everything there are degrees of omniscience. its definitely more than enlightenment because of the no-self principal itself behind enlightenment. But this would just be itself degrees of enlightenment and in other words enlightenment = omniscient. 

So we are saying the exact same thing in different ways overall, its just our degrees are different. titles can never capture increments unless you say they are incremental themselves. That's the issue with words. God is an infinitely zooming fractal. Therefore there will always be a need to revise and re- contextualization words. Hence the reason i say omniscient is after enlightenment. But we are saying the same thing. 

i don't really know about shinzen just talking about it generally.