Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) What books would you recommend for self inquiry? Maybe this topic needs F.A.Q Edited December 13, 2018 by sidaz10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 @winterknight Thank you your help is so important to me . I will try to ask Who am I but when does answer comes i will ask myself who is aware of it if nothing comes i will try it again and again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 Leo covered the 10 Ox Herding Pics already in one of his video. What does the term 'Riding the Ox Backwards' mean to you? Describe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, sidaz10 said: What books would you recommend for self inquiry? I have some book recs here and also my book. 10 minutes ago, SriBhagwanYogi said: @winterknight Thank you your help is so important to me . I will try to ask Who am I but when does answer comes i will ask myself who is aware of it if nothing comes i will try it again and again Yes, exactly. And as you try it again and again ask yourself -- who is aware of this trying? 7 minutes ago, Key Elements said: Leo covered the 10 Ox Herding Pics already in one of his video. What does the term 'Riding the Ox Backwards' mean to you? Describe it. I don't think in ox herding terms. There is only liberation. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, winterknight said: I don't think in ox herding terms. There is only liberation. It doesn't matter. It's the same thing. Truth is truth. Everything is interconnected. If you do know the truth, like you said, why do you suppose that it's called Riding the Ox Backwards? What does the word backwards mean to you? What is it pointing at? Surely, if you are enlightened, you will have something to say about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Key Elements said: It doesn't matter. It's the same thing. Truth is truth. Everything is interconnected. If you do know the truth, like you said, why do you suppose that it's called Riding the Ox Backwards? What does the word backwards mean to you? What is it pointing at? Surely, if you are enlightened, you will have something to say about that. No, that's not the test of enlightenment. I have no comments about ox herding. If you have any other questions about your path, feel free to ask them. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 Everyone has a different question and a different test. I'm glad Leo did The Ten Ox Herding Pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) So all of this thread is about beating around the bush, instead of just doing self inquiry. I guess Nike had it right all along: "Just Do It." Is it that simple? Why does one wish to be enlightened? What's the point of life? Edited December 13, 2018 by Anton Rogachevski https://antonsjournal.home.blog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said: So all of this thread is about beating around the bush, instead of just doing self inquiry. I guess Nike had it right all along: "Just Do It." Is it that simple? Why does one wish to be enlightened? What's the point of life? Well, it's not quite that simple. What prevents people from "just doing it" is a whole bunch of psychological obstacles that they usually need to troubleshoot. Sure, if you can just do it, absolutely, just do it. Indeed, if you can simply surrender all desire and relax thinking, that works too. People don't want to be enlightened per se; what they want is fulfillment/happiness and answers to questions like "what's the point of life?" It's just that enlightenment is the way to these things. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 Once enlightened, does the mind still work to deconstruct the personality structure? Such as working through a neurosis that may arise due to previous mind-body conditioning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Serotoninluv said: Once enlightened, does the mind still work to deconstruct the personality structure? Such as working through a neurosis that may arise due to previous mind-body conditioning. Yup. All the vasanas unwind over time. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 What is your opinion on seeking Truth for Truth's sake vs. seeking Truth only when it reduces the suffering of yourself and others? Comprehensive list of techniques: https://sites.google.com/site/psychospiritualtools/Home/meditation-practices I appreciate criticism! Be as critical/nitpicky as you like and don't hold your blows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, winterknight said: Yup. All the vasanas unwind over time. So the personality doesn’t disappear. The truth of the personality is revealed and attachments/identifications to the personality dissapear. Yes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, zambize said: What is your opinion on seeking Truth for Truth's sake vs. seeking Truth only when it reduces the suffering of yourself and others? It's all about what you truly desire. That's what's going to happen anyway; the question is only whether you can acknowledge it and live it fully consciously, integrate all the different voices within you into one harmonious chorus. So the question is not Truth for Truth's sake or Truth to reduce suffering but -- what is your inner truth, the truth of your feelings and desires? That determines the rest. 1 minute ago, Serotoninluv said: So the personality doesn’t disappear. The truth of the personality is revealed and attachments/identifications to the personality dissapear. Yes? Well, that depends on your perspective. The real truth is that it all 'disappears' in the sense that something disappears when you don't pay attention to it. Never pay attention to the personality and it can no longer be said to be there. So the thought "there is a personality" technically is ignorance. But to the enlightened one that very thought cannot be said to exist. But if one insists that there is such a thing as a personality... then unwinding is what is said to happen Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, winterknight said: So the thought "there is a personality" technically is ignorance. Edited December 14, 2018 by Big Guru Balls If your name is on the guest list, No one can take you higher Everybody says I've got... great balls of fire! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 J. Peterson explaining Psychoanalysis. If your name is on the guest list, No one can take you higher Everybody says I've got... great balls of fire! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 Nisargadatta and Ramana Maharshi talked about holding on to the I thought or I am how is that effective isnt the I thought Ego ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, SriBhagwanYogi said: Nisargadatta and Ramana Maharshi talked about holding on to the I thought or I am how is that effective isnt the I thought Ego ? Yes, that is effective. Hold to the ego and it will disappear. Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 So i must only concentrate on the feeling I am~like I exist knowledge without any attachment body , mind etc Is it thst simple ? Thank you I really wannt to do this 24 h a day when i can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, SriBhagwanYogi said: So i must only concentrate on the feeling I am~like I exist knowledge without any attachment body , mind etc Is it thst simple ? Thank you I really wannt to do this 24 h a day when i can. Sort of -- follow the steps for self-inquiry I lay out here. Edited December 14, 2018 by winterknight Website/book/one-on-one spiritual guidance: Sifting to the Truth: A New Map to the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
