Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Davino said:

Another example, if you ejaculate three times in a row, the forth time, something may come out of your dick, but that ain't no orgasm, it's even painful

Never had that. Always an orgasm.

Edited 20 hours ago by Leo Gura

[TheSelf]

57 minutes ago, Davino said:

In the same way, you may ejaculate and not have an orgasm.

I've never experienced this, sounds weird.

[TheSelf]

3 hours ago, Jowblob said:

I don't think you can experience orgasm without ejaculation.

Yes you can, people practice this for thousands of years.

3 hours ago, Jowblob said:

Orgasm is like an explosion

Yes and you don't have to ejaculate also along with it, it's just a muscle thats in charge of release of semen. With developing some awareness and practice it comes under control.

3 hours ago, Jowblob said:

How long do you hold your semen

Its been almost 3 years or something that I dont ejaculate. 

And the benefits are huge, specialy spiritualy talking, you don't waste your precious life force.

[UnbornTao]

2 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Its been almost 3 years or something that I dont ejaculate. 

Man, you must be all clogged down there.

[TheSelf]

9 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Man, you must be all clogged down there.

No, the body absorbs the semen, the sexual energy turns into spiritual energy.

After orgasm, I experience no side effects of ejaculation. Like feeling tired or low mood or low motivation.

I can never imagine going back like never, ejaculating 2 times per week the way I used to do for years.

Edited 19 hours ago by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

Just now, TheSelf said:

No the body absorbs the semen, the sexual energy turns into spiritual energy.

No side effects of ejaculation. Like feeling tired or low mood or low motivation.

I can never imagine going back like never, ejaculating 2 times per week the way I used to do for years.

Yes was just going to say this.. Semen is life giving force, so as you said if it is not used, and one of doing Sadhana/Spiritual practices that life giving force is used elsewhere, its like a physical representation of Kundalini, which in its most basic form is semen, as well as the basic structure of the body, which allows it too survive another day...

Tantra is the sec that is known for sexual practices, but its not about sex for pleasure, its about using sex to bring about Spiritual insights, semen retention is just one of them and yes they have techniques where a Man can orgasm without ejaculation and orgasm as much as a woman could, one after another after another, since there is no release of semen one can have multiple orgasms over and over again if they master the technique, problem is if You get addicted to it, like other siddhis, the power will go away if misused... 

[Ishanga]

11 hours ago, TheSelf said:

The skill of total mastery over the mind is the skill I'm most fascinated by

Here are some interesting information from AI:

Let us explore the levels of mastery over the mind, from novice to enlightened master, in a way that resonates with both yogic wisdom and inner experience.

🌱 Level 1: The Novice (Unaware and Identified)

"I am my thoughts and emotions."

State: Mind dominates. The person is unaware of the distinction between mind and awareness.

Ego: Fully identified with ego, thoughts, memories, desires.

Reactivity: Reacts unconsciously to situations, habits, and inner impulses.

Suffering: Controlled by fear, craving, pleasure, pain.

Awareness: Little or no gap between stimulus and reaction.

🕉 Here begins the journey. Most of humanity resides here.

🌬️ Level 2: The Seeker (Mindfulness Awakens)

"I am not my thoughts — I can watch them."

State: Awareness arises. You begin to witness thoughts and emotions.

Ego: Begins to be seen as a mask, not the true Self.

Reactivity: Some space between reaction and action.

Suffering: You still suffer, but now you observe it instead of being consumed.

Practices: Meditation, breath awareness, introspection begins.

🕯️ You start to take the reins of your inner world.

🔥 Level 3: The Warrior (Training the Mind)

"I can discipline my mind, even in chaos."

State: Strong control over thought, attention, and habits.

Ego: Begins dissolving through discipline and surrender.

Willpower: High — thoughts don’t easily distract you.

Inner State: Calm, even during storms. Can shift internal state at will.

Tools: Pranayama, concentration (Dharana), mantra, tapas.

🧘‍♂️ Here the battle becomes intense, but the clarity and strength begin to shine.

🌸 Level 4: The Yogi (Mind Becomes a Tool)

"The mind is silent unless I choose to use it."

State: Thoughts are voluntary, not compulsive.

Stillness: Natural silence becomes the ground of being.

Ego: Becomes thin, transparent — mostly absent.

Energy: Subtle mastery over prana; life is guided from inner intelligence.

Peace: Stable inner joy, regardless of outer condition.

🌈 You live mostly in presence. You are in the world, but not of it.

🔱 Level 5: The Master (Mindless, Boundless Being)

"There is no mind. There is only Being."

State: Total transcendence of mind. No internal conflict.

Unity: Duality ends. All is seen as one Self.

Ego: Gone. Not even a trace. Pure instrument of the divine.

Action: Spontaneous, right action flows from universal intelligence.

Presence: Radiates grace. Just their presence uplifts others.

🌌 This is someone like Ramana Maharshi, Sadhguru, Lahiri Mahasaya, Shiva himself in embodied form. There is no "trying" — just pure being.

⚡ Bonus Layer: Beyond the Beyond (Absolute Dissolution)

Even the identity of being a "master" dissolves.
There is only That — no individual, no mind, no world.
Only the Self remains, formless, eternal, unknowable.

"The mind is no more. Awareness alone shines."

🧭 The Path Between Levels:

Each stage requires:

Discipline (Yogic practice, daily sadhana)

Surrender (to a higher force, the Guru, the Divine)

Clarity (Viveka, discrimination between real and unreal)

Love (Bhakti, devotion melts the boundaries of mind)

Grace (Without grace, mastery becomes pride)

Excellent!!!!

Edited 19 hours ago by Ishanga

[UnbornTao]

5 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

No, the body absorbs the semen, the sexual energy turns into spiritual energy.

After orgasm, I experience no side effects of ejaculation. Like feeling tired or low mood or low motivation.

I can never imagine going back like never, ejaculating 2 times per week the way I used to do for years.

Okay.

[Jowblob]

32 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Yes you can, people practice this for thousands of years.

Yes and you don't have to ejaculate also along with it, it's just a muscle thats in charge of release of semen. With developing some awareness and practice it comes under control.

Its been almost 3 years or something that I dont ejaculate. 

And the benefits are huge, specialy spiritualy talking, you don't waste your precious life force.

Hmm yeah 3 years is a very long time, to be honest if you held it for such a long time this yogic practices are probably unnecessary since your awareness is at a different level anyway and the cause of it was that you held for so long. So i guess you're so conscious right now that you can easily become conscious of your internal organs or spots within the body.

 

But still in all honesty i think it's just a play of god or your higher self "to make you progress in consciousness" like you're doing something. Because in my experience that i had, when i came home from driving 850km from my guru and went to bed to sleep, i started waking up in my sleep to the astral body and it was see through and the ecstasy kept progressing to infinity until i couldnt handle it, i lifted my arm up and the veins or nervous system was just vibrations it wasnt blood anymore etc.

That's why i said some people "die" and just wake up to this body , but in our instance we are just playing a game that we are doing something and are progressing. But i think it is done like that on purpose so that we can experience different states and feel like kids playing with it.

Here is a picture that i found of what i was becoming aware of, in this body i felt a strong connection to god through my head and i became aware that God was using this body as an avatar/vehicle. So god is even higher then this indestructible body, i had the awareness through crown that god was even greater then this astral body.

And i all happend in like 7 seconds 

[TheSelf]

8 hours ago, Jowblob said:

Hmm yeah 3 years is a very long time

Just ejaculation control brother, I didn't abstain from sexual activities (I think you're assuming that I'm under so much sexual pressure or my balls are about to explode lol which is not what I'm experiencing at all), again orgasm and ejaculation are separate things, controling your ejaculation is not a siddhi, very normaly people practice this all the time.

Edited 11 hours ago by TheSelf

[TheSelf]

8 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Yes was just going to say this.. Semen is life giving force, so as you said if it is not used, and one of doing Sadhana/Spiritual practices that life giving force is used elsewhere, its like a physical representation of Kundalini, which in its most basic form is semen, as well as the basic structure of the body, which allows it too survive another day...

Tantra is the sec that is known for sexual practices, but its not about sex for pleasure, its about using sex to bring about Spiritual insights, semen retention is just one of them and yes they have techniques where a Man can orgasm without ejaculation and orgasm as much as a woman could, one after another after another, since there is no release of semen one can have multiple orgasms over and over again if they master the technique, problem is if You get addicted to it, like other siddhis, the power will go away if misused... 

Yes brother, exactly.

But I don't think this is a siddhi,

taking charge of your prana should be concidered very normal and I believe human civilizations are very much in need of this for current and future communities with healthy psychological and physiological people living a conscious, vibrant life together.

[Davino]

8 hours ago, Ishanga said:

All these translations are grossly inaccurate but 4, 5 and 7 I don't know it. Just for truths sake this is my Hindu understanding of term translation.

1. Shiva is God or Consciousness 

2. Sadashiva is God in its active form doing manifestation, sustenance, rejuvenation, pulling out of delusion and liberation.

3. Ishwara is not only the Deity is God incarnate in a form, or an atma awake to its Godhood becomes Ishvara.

4. Good, but Pure Understanding would be more of an accurate translation.

5. Yes.

6. Kala normally means times, but not 'measuring time' in the sense of past, present and future, but that which is measured by the clock. Saying a liter of milk is measured time, an hour, saying milk, is saying Kala.

7.

8. Purusha in its deepest form is the only I, or the I-principle, which is God.

9. Very wrong, prakriti means nature, the nature of earth. It's usually very linked with the feminine.

 

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, TheSelf said:

After orgasm, I experience no side effects of ejaculation. Like feeling tired or low mood or low motivation.

Ejaculation improves moods, not these awful things you say.

[TheSelf]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Ejaculation improves moods, not these awful things you say.

Of course the experience is subjective and varies from person to person, but in general it's logical to think that preserving the energy should be better for your general health or energy right? Assuming the body spent huge amount of energy making this life giving substance.

Do you really feel energetic after ejaculate? Like going out do some sport like running or something? Be honest.

Edited 9 hours ago by TheSelf

[Salvijus]

Ejaculation relaxes you if you're stressed up. But if you're relaxed, then it numbs you down, makes you lethargic. The fire is gone. Fire is important if you want to go forward in life and not just be a couch potato. 

[Salvijus]

@TheSelf nice share on the results of your practice. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Salvijus

[AION]

If you don’t have high libido anyway wasting your life energy won’t make a big difference. The effects of masturbation highly depends on your biology. For some like myself, retention has huge benefits. The whole point of pranayama is to push up libido from the crotch toward the heart and pineal gland. So you need some libido to have something to work with. Personally I think sexual health and health in general is closely related. 

Edited 9 hours ago by AION

[TheSelf]

24 minutes ago, AION said:

If you don’t have high libido anyway wasting your life energy won’t make a big difference.

Anyone who is not dead their body runs by prana, this is a lifegiving energy so your body functions because prana circulates in it.

24 minutes ago, AION said:

So you need some libido to have something to work with.

Your assumption that sexual energy is different energy is wrong.

Simple put, your life force energy is in charge of your life, in anyway you direct it, it's up to you, if you are stuck at solar plexus chakra sexul desires or being in a state of pleasure seeking would be the main concern for you so your energy circulates there.

Not having a high libido doesn't mean you lack energy lol, it's just that you're directing it to somewhere else, like art, creativity, sport, spirituality etc.

 

Also you gain energy and prana by Pranayama practice (as you practice conscious breathing in this practice) breathing it through your sushumna channel, rewiring the entire system.

Edited 8 hours ago by TheSelf

[TheSelf]

21 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

@TheSelf nice share on the results of your practice. 

Thanks man.

[Ishanga]

2 hours ago, TheSelf said:

Yes brother, exactly.

But I don't think this is a siddhi,

taking charge of your prana should be concidered very normal and I believe human civilizations are very much in need of this for current and future communities with healthy psychological and physiological people living a conscious, vibrant life together.

Yes agreed, I was just relating it too siddhis.  Ppl in the west bastardize everything from the east, with Tantra they think it is about Sex, but its about using it too transform, but ppl will use it for pleasure and when that happens the ability disappears! Its like the dark side of the Force lol!!!