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Is Sadhguru a Charlatan?

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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Yoga is powerful when done religiously.

Yoga is great for those who will never find psychedelics.

There was an authenticity about you that very few teachers can match. I am glad that I found you. 


 

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Just now, Leo Gura said:

Sadhguru is a genius.

Because you learned from him? I didn't realize you did. I thought Ralston brought you up.  But you absorbed from all.


 

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31 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Lmao. Yeah, you must be seeing buddhas left and right in your neighborhood.

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

 

Being enlightened is not being a Buddha without desire and a saint, is being open to the absolute light that reality is and being one with it. But not always, rhen maybe sometimes you use drugs and date in tinder for sex. Not everyone is so straight and perfect. 

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15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Sadhguru is a genius.

What did he show you. No self? I know you may be paying your respects but he now does nothing for nobody'. Don't waste your time on this dude at al.

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I dont think he is a charlatan. I have a lot of respect for him. He is doing great work even outside teaching spirituality, like his Save the Soil initiative or his work for the indian countryside.

I made a half serious comment towards him recently, because i heard yet another crazy story from him that i never heard before, even after listening to him for hundreds of hours and reading his book. But even if he is inventing some of his stories, it doesnt take away from his greatness.

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Because you learned from him? I didn't realize you did. I thought Ralston brought you up.  But you absorbed from all.

Hehe.

He didn't do anything to me.

I just recognize his genius. Sadhguru is a remarkable human.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Maybe he's enlightened, I believe Osho was enlightened too but Its interesting how the dogma doesn't dissolve even after that

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@Vido I'll never forget that interview you linked. It spawned a huge thread here:

When asked the deep questions - Sadghuru's answer is "It's bad dirt causing mind diarrhea. All from the bad dirt! BAD DIRT!"


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Hehe.

He didn't do anything to me.

I just recognize his genius. Sadhguru is a remarkable human.

There's a lot of geniuses in the world. A lot. A lot that you might not see.


 

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6 hours ago, Jirh said:

He said in the video that he doesn't identify with any religion.

He's just clever with words if you ask me

Edited by Salvijus

To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open, outstretched palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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38 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

He's just clever with words if you ask me

Maybe i missed something but I fully agree and I don't agree with you evee.


 

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5 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Maybe i missed something but I fully agree and I don't agree with you ever. 

I didn't mean that he's only clever with words and there's nothing more to him. In my perception his cleverness with words is just a drop in the ocean of his potential and capability. So yea, we still disagree like usual. 

Edited by Salvijus

To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open, outstretched palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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He is as legit as a human is gonna get. Problem with human teachers is none of them have gone all the way or they wouldn’t be here to talk about it.

Edited by Rigel

Sailing on the ceiling 

 

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9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Hehe.

He didn't do anything to me.

I just recognize his genius. Sadhguru is a remarkable human.

please participate in his hatha yoga courses again with some more seriousness. Do these exercises without the constant need to understanding them, your mind is in your way. See what happens.

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I ask again. Did he teach the big 5

 No self. Nothingness. Infnity. Idealism. And solipsism

 

If he didn't he is not worth anything


 

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12 hours ago, Jameskells said:

yeah 

Why does he think that?


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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16 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I ask again. Did he teach the big 5

 No self. Nothingness. Infnity. Idealism. And solipsism

 

If he didn't he is not worth anything

Yes he did. You will not find these teachings on youtube but in his advanced courses. especially solipsism. people were freaking out.

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14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I bet your observations have some accuracy to them, but it can sound like Sadghuru's level of advancement is being downplayed when trying to categorize like such. He is his own thing in a way, is how I see it.

He is its own thing definitely, evidenced by my utterly weird description of him. All descriptions are of course partial, but we can still try.

 

14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Sure you could call New Age religion (so anything involving some non-confirmed beliefs and dogma is religion now?).

Anything involving "seeking" (a search for the ultimate value, be it God, Consciousness, Love, etc.). You can of course again make a distinction between that ("spirituality") and "traditional" religion (allegiance to a specific traditional religion), but it's quite superficial when you consider again that the people act very much the same (they tend to hold beliefs they cannot currently verify, they seek out and engage in communities of likeminded individuals, and they very often take knowledge and inspiration from existing traditions).

 

14 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

The last sentence, I don't know the meaning of first two terms really, but it feels a bit too overly broad categorization. You mean that background + typical new age beliefs/practices = New Age?

Btw. Maybe you already agree with this, but you can be both religious and spiritual at the same time. Not conventionally so tho. It is rare tho, I would say. 

New Age is basically what happens when you take somebody who grew up atheist or agnostic or skeptical of traditional religion and they rediscover the religious impulse but they can't pretend like Jesus is the only Lord and Savior.

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Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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