Anyone been following Russell brand’s rape trial?

[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

You cannot rely on testimony’s. They are fallible.

There are corroborating witnesses. For example the rape victim's father told her it was rape when she told him what happened to her the day after it happened. That father was a credible witness.

It wasn't a simple he said she said.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[JoshB]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why?

I am sure she loves him and she knows he was a devil in the past. She loves him for his reformed self.

A crime from 20 years ago should not be a death sentence. People mature and develop. Look at Mike Tyson.

Just the serious nature of what he did. A LOT of women would of filed for divorce over this. 

And it does help that there is decades of time from when this happened. 

[Seed]

@Leo Gura her father also wasn’t told the correct story. 

eg. That it was anal rape. He only discovered that a few weeks before the trial.

she is not going to tell her dad that was willing to have anal is she? She could well of told him as she needed sympathy and support due to the regret and emotional pain caused by the reckless encounter.

All her witnesses were told different accounts and eventually everyone decided she was raped. That’s how Chinese’s whispers works.

im not saying her version is false - just that there is reasonable doubt. 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Seed said:

just that there is reasonable doubt. 

Sure there is doubt. But it matches his general pattern of behavior at the time. He was def pushy with women.

[Schizophonia]

Given that it happened a long time ago and he has a family he should perhaps have been given a more "symbolic" sentence such as a massive fine, community service, an electronic ankle monitor...

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Thought Art]

10 years 6 months.

I hope during his term he can face the truth of the harm he is done and admit it publically. That would be growth and do lots of good. He has lots of time to reflect.

Edited 5 hours ago by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

an electronic ankle monitor...

An electronic dick monitor 

[Vido]

@Leo Gura lmao

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@JoshB woman can also be loyal to a fault once attached to a man. Their beliefs in him, his goodness, can be almost irrevocable. This could in part explain his wife's psychology.

Edited 5 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Leo Gura]

She has 3 kids with him! Of course she will hesitate to leave.

[Wilhelm44]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/russell-brand-sentencing-raises-disturbing-160106149.html

More trials like this are probably on the way now.

I imagine quite a number of famous guys must be shitting themselves.

[enchanted]

His Bible stuff is sad

 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, enchanted said:

His Bible stuff is sad

Conflating God with survival.

Classic mistake.

[integral]

36 minutes ago, enchanted said:

His Bible stuff is sad

 

He advertised polymarket at the end of the video. lol gg

[Jodistrict]

If Russell Brand was a real Christian he would confess his sins, which just means telling the truth.  If he told the truth and stopped gaslighting his victims, then he and his victims could start to heal.  It will be interesting to see if prison is enough to shock him into truth or does he continue with the same false personality spewing nonsense.   

[JoshB]

@Leo Gura @Natasha Tori Maru 

Crazy how my loyalty to God and upholding Truth / Love has pushed so many people out of my life. 

And he literally rapes multiple people and those close to him dont fold at all 

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, JoshB said:

And he literally rapes multiple people and those close to him dont fold at all 

He lost many people and colleages over his womanizing.

He damaged himself more than you will ever know. Only Russell knows how bad his situation is. We are mere outsiders looking in.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

A Christian promoting gambling is funny. Then again, that's just what I'd expect of a Christian.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

 

31 minutes ago, JoshB said:

@Leo Gura @Natasha Tori Maru 

Crazy how my loyalty to God and upholding Truth / Love has pushed so many people out of my life. 

And he literally rapes multiple people and those close to him dont fold at all 

The psychology of many women who stay with men like that becomes twisted over time. They are often made to feel "special" somehow. That he would never treat them like those other women. Or that she understands him. All his previous partners didn't and misunderstood his actions. Women feel privileged to have unique insight into their man, it can pull them closer. Make them feel more connected. Special.

It's the other woman's fault somehow. They caused the actions, or misunderstood. Or won't take responsibility. Meanwhile the truth stares the partner in the face: she isn't special and she isn't immune to her partners wrath. Because the behaviour issue is from him. 

No one understand him, she does. So she naturally isolates a bit because everyone else doesn't understand her and her partner. In the case of Russell Brand I imagine isolation is a given due to fame. This further cements the narrative and immunises her against anyone else convincing her he alone is responsible and she isn't immune to his actions. Boundaries are blurry. 

It's a very predictable pattern with abused women. Slow boil. And it happens the other way also with genders swapped. Rape, abuse, assault - the psychology behind the strange loyalty is usually similar. 

Grew up in an abusive home seeing this whole thing play out in my family.

Edited 3 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[LordFall]

Russell got off easy. You can get life in prison for rape in the UK and he had many accusations. He can still claim that he's being unfairly prosecuted and his family will stick by him and he'll still be rich after his sentence is done. 

This sentencing will help victims worldwide as unfortunately rape is still under prosecuted and 80%+ rapists go free.

43 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

If Russell Brand was a real Christian he would confess his sins, which just means telling the truth.  If he told the truth and stopped gaslighting his victims, then he and his victims could start to heal.  It will be interesting to see if prison is enough to shock him into truth or does he continue with the same false personality spewing nonsense.   

A lot of Christians act as if believing in Jesus gives you a license to do all kinds of crazy things in the material realm. For most Christians I talk to, surrendering to Jesus gives them permission to quit all other forms of philosophy, morality and inquiry and they become judgemental and closed minded to anything else. I don't know if the cult label really fits and even if it does it's too vague to really nail the phenomenon but it's interesting to witness.