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Emotionalmosquito

Very sweet yoga instructor girl at my Zumba class

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We’ve had two good talks so far. I think a connection has possibly been made because we resonate decently well on the yoga stuff. I have her telephone number and she has agreed to pick up trash with me next month. She was surprisingly forthcoming about not having a romantic partner when I assumed she did in conversation. But there’s also someone else who seems likely interested as I am. He’s taller, mega muscular and way more badass like than I. So I’m under no delusion at all she’ll pursue me over him as anything that could go beyond platonic friendship. 

It’s so typical I’m not even mad or annoyed by it anymore. I’m just sitting here clearly predicting the future. They end up in a committed relationship and I’m right back to depriving myself of ejaculation and taking ice cold showers. It’s so fundamental to reality it’d be like getting upset at water for being wet or predicting 8:00 at 7:30. For whatever reason it’s been decided that in this volume of absolute infinity, every time there appears to be a chance at girlfriend it’s either approach anxiety makes me appear as some psycho rapist that has her terrified, someone else gets to her first, someone better looking is available, we live too far apart, we’re simply not a good match… oh it’s endless but ALWAYS something without fail. 

So what do I even do in this situation? Do I burn the number and ditch the class? Do I submit to cuckoldry? Unless a miracle happens we already know the outcome either way. Except one may leave me with more dignity than the other. 

What was God’s intention behind this prank? 
 

 

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Self-rejection, final boss.

Brother, you do not know what is going to happen. If you are interested, pursue her and let her decide if she prefers you or the other guy. On top of that work on the beliefs you have about yourself and your self worth.

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@Emotionalmosquito you're being overly dramatic. The bottom line is, you don't know what's going to happen. It's a law of nature that women have other interests don't sweat it, you're not competing, you're inviting her to you. You've shown you're interested, if she reciprocates then good you can continue.

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So since you last posted what practices and advice did you apply to resolve your mental health issues and resentments, how many hours did you do them? What approach anxiety progressive desensitization technique did you try and how many times? Did you improve your fashion and core communication skills, or do anything to try to address your negative mindsets? How many women did you practice talking to and how many reports did you write to find what your sticking points are. What content did you find and apply to address these sticking points, did you analyze if your weakness is at opening, at flirting, at conversation, what advice did you apply to resolve it? How many women did you ask out?

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@Emotionalmosquito why do you instantly belief it is gonna be nothing? This seems like self sabotage, never did she say or atleast not that you have described that she didn't like you romantically. Plus that is something that could build, by being more around eachother, I think my first girlfriend that we were friends for a month and only then when I was with another girl that I kissed before, she got scared and wrote me a love letter. SO don't throw in the towel so quickly that is weak and I am guilty of it too, but from what I read here, this is pure self sabotage.

I will tell you actually about a girl that I sabotaged with myself. She was in spirituality, I used to visit her class, we would sit in silence and connect, it was beautiful, like pure connection kinda. Then after like 6 months or so, I don't know I came just from the gym, my muscles were showing a little and I was a bit goofy, she jumped me and hugged me and was super interested in me, I couldn't handle her interest at that time and went away never came back. So don't be like me lol. Give it time, don't be desperate about it, she will eventually get interested or not and then when she is, be able to recieve and not runaway like I did.

Besides all of this, get around more woman, you don't want her to be the center of your world, there are plenty of woman around, maybe not all girlfriend material according to your taste like her, but still good to approach woman and see more woman so you aren't so desperate about one case, one girl. 

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Rip 

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To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open, outstretched palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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I literally went on a date with a meditation teacher who I met in front of a bar lol what a coincidence. 

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"To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom."

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To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open, outstretched palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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On 22.10.2026 at 10:02 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

For whatever reason it’s been decided

Point out to us when exactly this girl has rejected you. I would suggest you practice living with uncertainty, rather than already resorting to resignation. The latter can feel surprisingly peaceful, because it protects you from disappointment. But it also means you’ve already decided the outcome before anything has had the chance to develop.

On 22.10.2026 at 10:02 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

But there’s also someone else who seems likely interested as I am. He’s taller, mega muscular and way more badass like than I. So I’m under no delusion at all she’ll pursue me over him as anything that could go beyond platonic friendship. 

Notice what's missing from that comparison: everything else that matters in a relationship. You are right that she might choose him over you, but not necessarily for the reasons you think. Right now, you had some positive interactions, shared interest, her number and plans to spend time together. You don’t know where this will lead. 

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On 10/22/2026 at 5:18 AM, Raze said:

So since you last posted what practices and advice did you apply to resolve your mental health issues and resentments, how many hours did you do them? What approach anxiety progressive desensitization technique did you try and how many times? Did you improve your fashion and core communication skills, or do anything to try to address your negative mindsets? How many women did you practice talking to and how many reports did you write to find what your sticking points are. What content did you find and apply to address these sticking points, did you analyze if your weakness is at opening, at flirting, at conversation, what advice did you apply to resolve it? How many women did you ask out?

I’ve actually been progressing over the last several months. I’m less resentful. Not perfect by any means, but measurably better. I’m having better moods more often and the bad ones don’t last as long or hit as hard as they did a year ago. I’ve gotten back into yoga. Trying to get in at least a 20 minute meditation a day but it’s been tricky to work that into a habit. Much more physical exercise. I even took up a free improv training. Been to 3 classes so far. Not to mention therapy, I have the best guy I could’ve asked for. 

If I had any money I’d be able to get a dating coach to address the other things you asked. The specific problems I may be running into in my approaches. Writing pickup reports is an interesting idea, maybe I’ll do that and post them here for feedback. 

I’ve asked out one and she said yes. The girl in question here. Though I didn’t frame it as a romantic date. More like a simple, “Wanna do this thing with me sometime?”

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13 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

I’ve actually been progressing over the last several months. I’m less resentful. Not perfect by any means, but measurably better. I’m having better moods more often and the bad ones don’t last as long or hit as hard as they did a year ago. I’ve gotten back into yoga. Trying to get in at least a 20 minute meditation a day but it’s been tricky to work that into a habit. Much more physical exercise. I even took up a free improv training. Been to 3 classes so far. Not to mention therapy, I have the best guy I could’ve asked for. 

If I had any money I’d be able to get a dating coach to address the other things you asked. The specific problems I may be running into in my approaches. Writing pickup reports is an interesting idea, maybe I’ll do that and post them here for feedback. 

I’ve asked out one and she said yes. The girl in question here. Though I didn’t frame it as a romantic date. More like a simple, “Wanna do this thing with me sometime?”

Nice. Just keep stacking wins to create momentum.

You can also get wingmen and write reports online to get feedback without paying. The people here aren’t that experienced, /u/becomesharp on Reddit is fairly experienced with hardcase clients and will often reply with advice if you ask for constructive feedback so you could try posting on his subreddit.

Also while yoga and meditation can be calming in the short term and long term, midterm they actually can bring up subconscious material and cause mood swings. So if you feel like you’re getting “worse” keep in mind that’s actually part of the process and you aren’t necessarily moving backwards.

Anyway one piece of advice I would give is don’t take “results” so seriously for now since you’re just starting to build the skill set. If it works out great but view it more as aiming for stable practice for now. 

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On 10/22/2026 at 10:02 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

because we resonate decently well on the yoga stuff

Attraction is not a choice.

On 10/22/2026 at 10:02 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

She was surprisingly forthcoming about not having a romantic partner when I assumed she did in conversation.

Indicator of interest. Treat it as a one evidence among the multitude of signals she'll send your way as you interact.

On 10/22/2026 at 10:02 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

she has agreed to pick up trash with me next month.

Wtf... Have you ever fucked a girl picking up trash? Unless you don't mean it literally. Or are you into homeless chicks? 🤣

On 10/22/2026 at 10:02 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

Unless a miracle happens we already know the outcome either way.

This mindset will frame your interaction completely. So if you believe this, it will be true. If you stop believing it, it won't. This is basic self-help btw.

What I suggest is you study "How to be a 3% man" from Corey Wayne thoroughly so you can be prepared. She's into it, you just have to go for the 3 Hs, and do all the other stuff Corey teaches. 

 

PS: Self-esteem is immune system of the mind.

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On 10/22/2026 at 3:02 PM, Emotionalmosquito said:

He’s taller, mega muscular and way more badass like than I. So I’m under no delusion at all she’ll pursue me over him as anything that could go beyond platonic friendship. 

It’s so typical I’m not even mad or annoyed by it anymore. I’m just sitting here clearly predicting the future. They end up in a committed relationship and I’m right back to depriving myself of ejaculation and taking ice cold showers.

With this mindset you are definitely fucked. Your calling it over and yourself cucked before you've even gone out with her. Change your mindset and simply become the guy that gets her....make the other dude be worried about you


Pursue Reality 

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7 hours ago, jacknine119 said:

@Emotionalmosquito yoga teacher will be so good to fuck 

I know dude, I can’t even imagine. Please don’t play with me like that in case it doesn’t happen 🫩

 

 

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On 10/25/2026 at 3:36 PM, PsychedelicEagle said:

Wtf... Have you ever fucked a girl picking up trash? Unless you don't mean it literally. Or are you into homeless chicks? 🤣

It’s like an environmental effort type thing to help slow down the microplastic crisis. I’ve taken it up as a side hobby.  She told me she sometimes does it herself when out hiking and she sees some litter but hasn’t yet gone out for that soul purpose. 
 

This most recent time we talked about good news stories happening in the world. I told her there are plenty if you look for them. She noted how sometimes she scrolls looking for positive or interesting things but gets bombarded with the typical stuff we’re all fed about how fucked up everything is. I turned her on to some good channels and she seemed interested. 

 

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3 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

It’s like an environmental effort type thing to help slow down the microplastic crisis. I’ve taken it up as a side hobby.  She told me she sometimes does it herself when out hiking and she sees some litter but hasn’t yet gone out for that soul purpose. 
 

This most recent time we talked about good news stories happening in the world. I told her there are plenty if you look for them. She noted how sometimes she scrolls looking for positive or interesting things but gets bombarded with the typical stuff we’re all fed about how fucked up everything is. I turned her on to some good channels and she seemed interested. 

 

It's a great activity — pardon my funny irony — just not appropriate for a date.

Why? What she feels with you is what she associates with you.

Spend time with her in activities conveying friendship vibes, and she'll start seeing you NOT as a dating prospect.

Seduction is getting closer and closer to her until you end up inside of her.

That's why Corey Wayne recommends evening dates that can lead to escalation and you having sex with her.

The three H's: Hang out, have fun, and hook up.

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8 hours ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

It's a great activity — pardon my funny irony — just not appropriate for a date.

Why? What she feels with you is what she associates with you.

Spend time with her in activities conveying friendship vibes, and she'll start seeing you NOT as a dating prospect.

Seduction is getting closer and closer to her until you end up inside of her.

That's why Corey Wayne recommends evening dates that can lead to escalation and you having sex with her.

The three H's: Hang out, have fun, and hook up.

It’s frustrating how everything has to be so damn complicated and methodical instead of just two people drawing closer to each other organically. I’m also the one picking her; her taking me up on an offer like that is highly attractive to me. I’m not saying it would’ve been a deal breaker if she didn’t want to, but fantastic bonus that she did. Does it not show leadership to shamelessly take someone on a very unconventional date? I’d say it’s more about feeling each other out personality wise than wooing her with a fancy night out. Let’s not pretend a normal date setting can’t lead to the friendzone too. I’m 99% sure these two just got back from one here. 
 


So what would be wrong with just communicating straight up while we’re out there? Something along the lines of: “Just so you know, I’m totally into taking this into more-than-friends territory if you are. But no big deal if not.” all while out on a nice trail or park in this beautiful weather we’re going into. 

Maybe give me some specific Wayne videos for this situation if you really trust him that much. 

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@Emotionalmosquito Why play in hard mode when you can have it easy?

I don't know what you plan exactly with the picking up trash date, but it sounds more likely to convey friendship vibes. Also, likely there will be other people (if this is a trash pickup event or the like), which makes group interactions more likely. If suddenly there are other people chiming in, intimacy gets harder to build. It also opens up more opportunities for things to go wrong. Remember: what she feels when she's with you is what she associates with you.

Visualize the date you are planning: how is it contributing to you two building intimacy, getting to know each other at a deeper level, and escalating physically? Do you have a plan where to take her afterwards? Etc.

Maybe what you have in mind is favorable, maybe not — you are the judge. A good date facilitates interaction and intimacy between the two of you.

See the video below for an example where the dude goes for a group date and she totally loses attraction.

 

1 hour ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

So what would be wrong with just communicating straight up while we’re out there? Something along the lines of: “Just so you know, I’m totally into taking this into more-than-friends territory if you are. But no big deal if not.” all while out on a nice trail or park in this beautiful weather we’re going into. 

Women don't like guys who are clueless. If you're making this question it shows you have no clue where you stand with her. Plus, it conveys lack of confidence — if you knew for a fact she's into you, would you be asking her if she is? Obviously not.

Instead, you have to gauge her attraction level throughout the date — be attuned to signs of attraction, so you can lead effectively. Good leaders are attuned to the people they're leading; in a romantic interaction, men (or whoever is providing the masculine energy) are expected to lead the date to a successful conclusion in the bedroom. Femine energy is about opening up — when she opens up to you, she wants you to pick that up (be attuned) and take action.

In a date, that takes the form of you touching her, going for the kiss, escalating physically, taking her to your place or hers, escalating even more, and finally going for the indoor olympics. If all this happens smoothly (by you being attuned to the signs she will reveal as her interest grows), you gain points, and her attraction grows further.

If you don't take action when she opens up, she will read that as lack of confidence or disinterest and move on. Her interest and attraction will drop.

2 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

fancy night out

It doesn't need to be fancy. The goal is to build rapport and intimacy.

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