what would ACTUALLY change the world

[Olaf]

I am listening to Michael Jackson of course and it made me ask the question, what does actually change the world? I feel there is so many persuits of changing the world, but many of it is very emotional and not thought out well enough. For example some spiritual teacher might feels inspired to change the world with spirituality not considering how this will directly fuck up 20 year olds who are trying to build a carreer. Or how business people sell a course, coaching to make guys rich, but then they don't screen well enough and they have guys lose thousands or tens of thousands of euros directly impacting their survival. Then you have manifestation coaches who will make people learn about manifestation, but then they get addicted to trying to manifest without taking any action and just be stuck in that endless cycle. There is so many people who I feel want to change the world, but never do we actually ask what does change the world for real? If there is even such a thing. 

[LordFall]

Depends on what problems you find worthwhile to fix.

I like what Leo did with the life purpose course. A life devoid of meaning and money is a boring and hard life.

I parly took inspiration from that idea to create my creative communities. I originally hosted photoshoots to meet cute models to date but through talking to a lot of them I realized that a lot of them get taken advantage of by modelling agencies. There are many talented both models but also other types of creatives like musicians and clothing designers who have many cool ideas to bring to the world but the business frameworks to empower them don't exist. If I can scale my own agency and build my own success in collaboration with those people and help kickstart their careers, that would be very cool for me.

I also want to get into other industries down the line like automated food production but that will probably be the 3rd stage of my career after I run my agency for the next 5 years and hopefully accumulate a few million dollars worth of capital to reinvest into an operation capable of higher leverage. 

[OmniNaut]

It's quite simple my dear Watson. 

It all has to do with identifying the root cause of the problem, and the root cause is almost never limited to one level.
Tier 1 only focuses on their level of the problem, leaving out the other levels. 
Blue: too much focussed on their particular group, helping because being told helping is good
Orange: too much focussed on technology, efficiency, financial gain and acting now
Green: too much focussed on emotions, equality and acting now.

That said, root cause identifying will not be a guarantee for true problem solving,

If you are interested in solving problems, look into Root cause analysis and Systems thinking. 
The thing with analysis is you have to know when you identified enough, it's easy to get lost in over-analysing 

Also how do you define change? Don't over look all the small positive contributions that local people can make, especially when it comes to small communities. People can make a change but it is very localised.

"Every avalanche begins with the movement of a snowflake, and my hope is to move a snowflake"
Thomas Frey

The problem is more global problems require a different approach and become exponentially more complex.

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An example I experienced while volunteering at an orphanage in Nepal. Keep in mind this was the situation back in 2014, I don't know how much has changed now.
During that time I observed the following about their education system.
A normal education system for a country works in investing into the youth, and a some point the youth will contribute back to the country with their knowledge, energy and consuming power. This is the main drive of a stable self-maintained country. Seeding, growing, harvesting.

Nepal is a third world country, for decades they have the problem that
1. The quality of the public schooling is terrible
2. Schooling system only went up too a college level, there were some university studies, but mostly something like majors in accountancy, IT, medical/nursing, no real Master stuff.

So what was happening that children that had talent or had no money for proper education had no educational network to help cultivate that talent. Nepalese are stuck doing the same kind of work in their country that does not earn enough to support their family. They go work abroad, or in dangerous or exploitive situation (low educated) or if they have some kind of education and saved some money, they would travel to Europe or the US to further their education and earn more money then they would back in Nepal. Asian people send back a lot of money to their family for support. But the talent and knowledge stays outside the country. So a country invests money into education but will not see the benefits back to truly building the country.

So I realised the country is stuck because their education system does not allow creating talent that really helps grow the country, this and all the other usual third world country stuff, like corruption and being exploited by neighbouring countries (India, with tariffs).
Since the 60's their have been numerous volunteering/NGO and non-profit efforts to help Nepal, but none of them focus on the bigger picture, just small scale stuff. Mind you it's quite difficult as a foreign small-scale organisation to affect sustainable change without the involvement of (local ,national and international) government, and then corruption becomes a factor as well.

Not all is doom and gloom though. 
I have met some people in NGO's and non-profit, who encompass more of Tier 2 thinking, they are rare but they are out there.

Edited 13 hours ago by OmniNaut

[Ulax]

By acquiring rare and valuable skills, and then applying those to a large enough problem.

[Willy Phallicus]

Zombie apocalypse might do the trick.  Nuclear war.  Global harvest crashing for 10 straight years.  Hyper lifelike sex robots.  

Take your pick really.

[Joseph Maynor]

Create positive things as much as you can.  

[Olaf]

@OmniNaut yes allot of it is systemically fucked. This might be one of the few things that I agree on with tate, which is like the system is rigid, the system is out there to keep people poor and a slave in a 9 to 5 job. Atleast with capitalism you have the possibility to somewhat get out of that, but much of the problems seem to need to be fixed at the root and that is mainly in the system of the world, politicians might change those things on a surface level, but much of it is like giving money to a homeless guy.

[pablo_aka_god]

I think trying to change the world is a bad frame of mind to think.

99.999% of people can't change the world in a big way like Michael Jackson.

You don't try to change the world. Can you try your way to become as big as Michael Jackson or Michael Jordan? You will be miserable trying something like this since those people are genetic freaks, normies couldn't become them in 1000 years of hard work.

I think this framing is much healthier and realistic:

How can I nudge humanity in the right direction?

What's the direction I want humanity to go in the next 100 years, and what small contribution do I want to make in my lifetime towards that goal?

Whether my contribution ends up being a drop in the sea or Nobel Prize material I don't control. And ego gets in the way when I spend energy thinking about things like prizes, cash, popularity, etc.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by pablo_aka_god

[OmniNaut]

@Olaf

Tate is not a systems thinker. He's just a shouter and blames it on "the man", or however it's called today.

To add to my original post, a person must study their own deception and self/survivor biases before they can do a good analysis of the system around them.

Tier 1 is incapable of doing this.

If you want to even have an incling to making a positive change to the world, you got to get out there in to the real world. You can't do proper analysis by sitting and absorbing (tainted) perspectives of others. You must gather data first hand. And before you can use the data you gathered you need to purge yourself from your own biases and self deception because even first hand experiences are tainted by your own ego filtering.

[Joshe]

51 minutes ago, OmniNaut said:

before you can use the data you gathered you need to purge yourself from your own biases and self deception because even first hand experiences are tainted by your own ego filtering.

How does one go about that? What does the process look like, and how would one know when they were done with the purge? 

[OmniNaut]

22 minutes ago, Joshe said:

How does one go about that? What does the process look like, and how would one know when they were done with the purge? 

Being observant and doing self inquiry, observing yourself, questioning how you obtained the perspective. Basically doing a root cause analysis on yourself.

Will you ever be done, hard to say. I think not, but being self aware of your own biases influenced by your culture, family upbringing, financial situation, personality type, traumas (current or past) will help to see your own biases. The philosophical question will be if you undo all your biases will you still be you? Your biases makes you unique, without biases there is no self. At least not in the world of Maya.

It will be an ongoing process while you navigate through this world. The more you expose yourself to new experiences the more opportunities you have to learn about your own biases. 

Sometimes it works by observing the outside world and recognising the same within yourself, sometimes its observing yourself and recognising the same in the outside world.

Similarities become patterns then you will start to see patterns within patterns. The Patterns will be crossing domains, and levels. Now your on your way to Systems Thinking.

At least that's how it started with me. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

If we are being fanciful?

Telepathy.

One of Ralston's books - I forget which one - has a practice he endorses for integrity "inside/outside thoughts" or some-such. I forget all the details around it:

You basically pretend like everyone around you can hear exactly what you think. All thoughts and feelings are transparent.

Edited 1 hour ago by Natasha Tori Maru