"Follow your passion" never mentions supply and demand

[Thought Art]

@Ramanujan AI will not fuck up your career in IT if you are persistent and flexible 

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura Thanks for the advice man! I recommend to people to not be discouraged by the odds of success given that most people fail. The reason they fail is because they don't want it bad enough, and commit obvious amateur's mistakes. They're just dabbling and aren't serious. For me, living out my passion for rap music is the most important thing in my life. So i won't worry much about the fact that most people fail, for the reasons i just cited. 

That's a good attitude. But that is not enough, you also need to pair it with intelligent pragmatic strategy.

Do you have a realistic business plan for success in rap? If not, then that requires your focus. You can't just hope that success befalls you by luck, you need a practical plan to make it happen. Luck is not a strategy.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

Funny how everybody talks about passion but nobody defines what it is. Everybody can have a different definition of it. Nowadays everybody confuses passion for love or the other way around. Passion and love are very different things. For me love is doing things for the sake of the process while passion is doing it for the end result like explained in the book Mastery by Lenard. From exp passion can be very whimsical. If you depend on it you won’t be able to finish stuff. 

[Leo Gura]

Passion means your work is highly meaningful to you.

Imagine the most meaningful work you could possibly do for mankind. That's what I mean.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Majed]

@Leo Gura

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a good attitude. But that is not enough, you also need to pair it with intelligent pragmatic strategy.

Do you have a realistic business plan for success in rap? If not, then that requires your focus. You can't just hope that success befalls you by luck, you need a practical plan to make it happen. Luck is not a strategy.

My plan was to make reels where i rap, attracting an audience over time, that i could convert into donators on patreon where i could post my raps in advance. I'm also open to other ways of monetization like selling merch,etc...

I'm also planning on learning more about the music industry and how the business and marketing side of things work. 

[Thought Art]

@Majed Do you have songs?

[Majed]

@Thought Art yes https://www.instagram.com/majedtafech0?stkn=NWZycm01czNxc3E3

I need to work on making higher quality music by upgrading my equipment, as well as making more videos where i rap not just audios. I'll do all that in the near future.

Edited 2 hours ago by Majed

[Nemra]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Passion means your work is highly meaningful to you.

Imagine the most meaningful work you could possibly do for mankind. That's what I mean.

Do you regard "highly meaningful to you" as more important than "highly meaningful for mankind"?

What if the work is highly meaningful to me, but not all people find it meaningful?

Edited 1 hour ago by Nemra

[Terell Kirby]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Passion means your work is highly meaningful to you.

that's real stuff

[MaxBlume]

@Leo Gura

Agreed on attitude. Some people just aren't serious and don't want it badly enough.

To be honest, a 9-5 isn't fulfilling to me either. There's so much I want to do in life, and it feels like not living up to my full potential or getting the most out of life.

Attitude also pays off most in entrepreneurship. With your own business, pushing harder actually gets results. With a job, you can max out your skill and still get stuck at the filters: CVs, degrees, someone deciding to hire you. That's where I got stuck.

What I see a lot here is people in a dream world: "I'll make music and it'll work out." Passion alone isn't the point. The question is what value you can provide that people will pay for. Getting good takes time, but it helps to be honest early: once you're good, would you pay for this yourself? If the answer is no, there's nothing wrong with keeping it as a hobby. Not every passion has to make money, and it's often more enjoyable when it doesn't have to.

As you say, "your brain learns by contrast." Looking at what you did differently from others, a few principles stand out to me:

• Get really good at your craft
• Provide as much value as possible
• Listen to the market and make something people actually want or need
• Build a brand and following through content, so selling later is way easier
• Actually monetize your audience
• Stay consistent for years

Marketing was the biggest insight for me. Most skilled people never learn it, so nobody knows they exist. None of this guarantees success, but following these principles raises the odds a lot, and missing one drops them fast. What do you think, is that most of it, or am I missing something?

Also you said you can't be great at something you don't love. But what if it often works the other way too, and you start loving something because you got good at it?

Most people don't enjoy things they're bad at. Research backs this: feeling competent is one of the core drivers of motivation (self-determination theory), and people who believe passion is something you discover tend to quit faster when things get hard (O'Keefe, Dweck & Walton, 2018).

So maybe some people haven't found their passion because they haven't gotten good at anything yet. How do you see it: does passion have to come first, or can it be built through skill?

Edited 1 hour ago by MaxBlume

[MaxBlume]

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Do you regard "highly meaningful to you" as more important than "highly meaningful for mankind"?

What if the work is highly meaningful to me, but not all people find it meaningful?

The sweet spot seems to be where both overlap

[Thought Art]

Most of my favourite musicians probably made 0$ from me 

[Ulax]

40 minutes ago, MaxBlume said:

@Leo Gura

Agreed on attitude. Some people just aren't serious and don't want it badly enough.

To be honest, a 9-5 isn't fulfilling to me either. There's so much I want to do in life, and it feels like not living up to my full potential or getting the most out of life.

Attitude also pays off most in entrepreneurship. With your own business, pushing harder actually gets results. With a job, you can max out your skill and still get stuck at the filters: CVs, degrees, someone deciding to hire you. That's where I got stuck.

What I see a lot here is people in a dream world: "I'll make music and it'll work out." Passion alone isn't the point. The question is what value you can provide that people will pay for. Getting good takes time, but it helps to be honest early: once you're good, would you pay for this yourself? If the answer is no, there's nothing wrong with keeping it as a hobby. Not every passion has to make money, and it's often more enjoyable when it doesn't have to.

As you say, "your brain learns by contrast." Looking at what you did differently from others, a few principles stand out to me:

• Get really good at your craft
• Provide as much value as possible
• Listen to the market and make something people actually want or need
• Build a brand and following through content, so selling later is way easier
• Actually monetize your audience
• Stay consistent for years

Marketing was the biggest insight for me. Most skilled people never learn it, so nobody knows they exist. None of this guarantees success, but following these principles raises the odds a lot, and missing one drops them fast. What do you think, is that most of it, or am I missing something?

Also you said you can't be great at something you don't love. But what if it often works the other way too, and you start loving something because you got good at it?

Most people don't enjoy things they're bad at. Research backs this: feeling competent is one of the core drivers of motivation (self-determination theory), and people who believe passion is something you discover tend to quit faster when things get hard (O'Keefe, Dweck & Walton, 2018).

So maybe some people haven't found their passion because they haven't gotten good at anything yet. How do you see it: does passion have to come first, or can it be built through skill?

W self-determination

[Nemra]

20 minutes ago, MaxBlume said:

The sweet spot seems to be where both overlap

Why should most people find my work the most meaningful thing?

Perhaps both could overlap, but I don't really care if most people don't find my work the most meaningful, unless I want to earn more money.

I would like it if some people found my work uniquely meaningful to them.

How helpful my work actually is to all mankind is another thing.