Pink pill

[Leo Gura]

Pink pill is just ragebait created for Red Pillers to whine about.

[Raze]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Pink pill is just ragebait created for Red Pillers to whine about.

It’s much bigger than redpill because it doesn’t get censored.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

All of these pills are just limiting paradigms.

[Ulax]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Pink pill is just ragebait created for Red Pillers to whine about.

Nah bro. They got a pink pill wiki on their subreddit and everything lol. A little book too.

 

[AION]

The scary part is that it is not even called pink pill. So they don’t even market their videos under pink pill. It is just part of main stream advice by women. 

Edited Friday at 06:06 AM by AION

[something_else]

2 hours ago, AION said:

The scary part is that it is not even called pink pill. So they don’t even market their videos under pink pill. It is just part of main stream advice by women. 

Most of the content on FemaleDatingStrategy or adjacent advice is not that mainstream, most women would disagree with the majority of it. Just read through their Wiki and ask if you really think that the average woman would agree with what you're reading. Most would not, therefore it isn't mainstream.

Talking about women in an objectifying manner is actually far more mainstream than the inverse.

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Interestingly, on a separate note as a general response to this thread:

The way you see women on FemaleDatingStrategy talk about men is quite similar to how men in the pickup/redpill community talk about women. They use similar terms like high/low value, manipulative strategies like push/pull or 'hot cold' as they'd call it, focusing on getting what you want while giving as little as possible in return.

If you're casually dating women then you're likely part of this manipulative game too, which is fine. But it's hardly fair to then get butthurt when you see women reflecting the same energy back at you. The energy of: take as much as you can while offering as little as you can get away with in return.

How men feel reading FDS content is exactly how women feel when reading men talk about pickup and casual dating. It isn't a nice feeling, and for men it should make us more aware of the emotional state we create in women when we talk about them in such ways. 

Edited Friday at 08:46 AM by something_else

[Hayato]

too many pills ...

[LordFall]

6 hours ago, something_else said:

Interestingly, on a separate note as a general response to this thread:

The way you see women on FemaleDatingStrategy talk about men is quite similar to how men in the pickup/redpill community talk about women. They use similar terms like high/low value, manipulative strategies like push/pull or 'hot cold' as they'd call it, focusing on getting what you want while giving as little as possible in return.

If you're casually dating women then you're likely part of this manipulative game too, which is fine. But it's hardly fair to then get butthurt when you see women reflecting the same energy back at you. The energy of: take as much as you can while offering as little as you can get away with in return.

How men feel reading FDS content is exactly how women feel when reading men talk about pickup and casual dating. It isn't a nice feeling, and for men it should make us more aware of the emotional state we create in women when we talk about them in such ways. 

That's how you experience it on a deep level or just your immediate gut reaction? I found it incredibly healing and refreshing to come across both the red pill and female dating strategies subreddits. I always felt like mainstream advice was shallow and blind optimism and my relationships with other humans didn't represent that. Only by breaking down all the manipulations of the other sex in that regard or by reading books like 48 laws of power and understanding the concepts of the jungian shadow do I now feel at peace with other human beings and understanding they types of manipulative and toxic strategies they use to get their wants and needs met. 

I even see it in myself and my group of friends where sometimes we act in ways that on a surface level makes no sense but now through my deep understanding of human psychology I can just immediately diagnose it as oh this person is anxious and doesn't know how to gain control of their life and is lashing out in X way, no big deal. 

Same with understanding trauma where sometimes people flip the fuck out in seemingly insane ways and you can just immediately spot it oh they have been carrying a lot of tension for a while and they feel unseen/unheard and now use this medium to unleash all this pent up energy. Whereas people literally labelled it as demonic possession before. 

I just read about this in Robert Greene's new book the Laws of human nature where this widespread demonic possession case in a small town in 1634 lead to a priest getting burned at the stake because the nuns were dreaming about him and it was ruled that he was using black magic to manipulate the church and it was just sexual repression and i guess he was good looking and they wanted to fuck lol. True story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudun_possessions

I have a friend who refuses to read Robert Greene's books because they are too toxic(he was raised christian) and he has been trying to find a girlfriend for the past year and he literally has told about 12 women in the past year that he loves them and he wants them to be his wife and he is mind boggled and in a lot of pain because he continuously gets rejected and ghosted by women. He is integrating the abundance mindset and slowly getting rid of his conditioning but its ingrained into him, we had an hour call about it yesterday. 

Edited Friday at 03:01 PM by LordFall

[something_else]

18 minutes ago, LordFall said:

That's how you experience it on a deep level or just your immediate gut reaction?

It doesn't intrinsically bother me anymore but when I first read it several years ago it did, and it made me reflect on the language and terminology I used to talk about women. I realised I was often doing the same thing in reverse thinking it was OK and harmless, which it is not. I suspect many men do still get that feeling when reading it, yet still talk about women in an equally objectifying way. This thread is an example of that.

There is a degree of value exchange in relationships and there likely always will be, but the mindsets of pickup or FDS are unhealthy because they focus far too much on that value exchange and end up objectifying the other gender to an almost psychopathic degree.

If you want to practice pickup and have lots of casual sex as a guy then have at it, or if you want to find a rich husband as a woman then have at it. But there's no need to approach these things in such a rigorously manipulative and degrading way. There are ways to do it more ethically.

[WonderSeeker]

On 8/7/2026 at 1:28 AM, Spiral said:

@AION I wouldn’t date a girls who’s tricky. Hot girls are overrated, it’s fun in the beginning. But personality is where it’s at

Hot girls. Stay around too long, get burned.

Mind-blowing sex, spirit-draining everything else.

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, WonderSeeker said:

Hot girls. Stay around too long, get burned.

Mind-blowing sex, spirit-draining everything else.

Yes because they are in abundance and therefore have high standards for their man. If you don't have systems of leverage and value built into your life you will experience it as a high maintenance and demanding woman that drains you. It comes down to what you value in life but I have to stand up for them and say it's not their fault its a function of having a lot of options so not being satisfied with the bare minimum in a relationship where as most guys stereotype it as just being shallow. 

Especially since we study systems thinking here I think defaulting to dating less attractive people strategy is a bit silly, just gotta build more efficient systems!  That's why I preach social circle game so much.

For example I hosted open mics last year, it cost me $0 and as a matter of fact could've made me money, let me cool musicians, I would invite the hot girls I knew to watch the performances, it increased my business leverage with the local venues around town and built my brand, etc. You can't do this with a cold approach or just a regular guy mindset so of course their ask for a fun lifestyle is gonna be experienced as too much.

Even introverts can build a fun diverse lifestyle if you base it on systems of leverage and not just randomly going out to drink a beer or idk playing board games. 

Edited Saturday at 02:50 PM by LordFall

[AION]

A lot of people think abundance is a mindset. But it is actually just logistics. 

[LordFall]

For sure, it starts with the mindset though. If you don't believe you make it then your limiting beliefs stop you from even trying to build the logistics. 

[Olaf]

@AION HAHAHA what the hell, this is hilarious. This world has changed so much I can't keep up. Looks maxing, pink pill, what crazy trend is next? 

[Jirh]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbmXoScNc4s/

Edited 15 hours ago by Jirh

[LordFall]

57 minutes ago, Jirh said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbmXoScNc4s/

The stay in the kitchen meme has been hard countered boys "When he has a social life, he forgot that his place is AT WORK" 

The nap one is actually a common one I've heard. On my podcast we had a girl who literally said that's her ick in men when they take a nap lmao like girl we are conquering can we please chill for a few moments in the day 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by LordFall

[WonderSeeker]

On 8/8/2026 at 11:45 PM, LordFall said:

Yes because they are in abundance and therefore have high standards for their man. If you don't have systems of leverage and value built into your life you will experience it as a high maintenance and demanding woman that drains you. It comes down to what you value in life but I have to stand up for them and say it's not their fault its a function of having a lot of options so not being satisfied with the bare minimum in a relationship where as most guys stereotype it as just being shallow. 

Especially since we study systems thinking here I think defaulting to dating less attractive people strategy is a bit silly, just gotta build more efficient systems!  That's why I preach social circle game so much.

For example I hosted open mics last year, it cost me $0 and as a matter of fact could've made me money, let me cool musicians, I would invite the hot girls I knew to watch the performances, it increased my business leverage with the local venues around town and built my brand, etc. You can't do this with a cold approach or just a regular guy mindset so of course their ask for a fun lifestyle is gonna be experienced as too much.

Even introverts can build a fun diverse lifestyle if you base it on systems of leverage and not just randomly going out to drink a beer or idk playing board games. 

If hotness is the only thing you care about when it comes to dating then you are missing the emotional, intellectual, and spiritual satisfaction you can have with a woman.

I find the hottest ones are usually the shallowest. This is not a blanket rule, but that's been my consistent observation. From up close and afar.

An 8/10 looks woman with a 10/10 personality blasts a 10/10 looks woman with a 8/10 personality out of the water every time for me. Because society's 10/10 in looks I actually find borderline ugly. Also, a poor personality can't make up for great looks (and it is nowhere near a cope to say that).

Edited 7 hours ago by WonderSeeker

[LordFall]

3 hours ago, WonderSeeker said:

If hotness is the only thing you care about when it comes to dating then you are missing the emotional, intellectual, and spiritual satisfaction you can have with a woman.

I find the hottest ones are usually the shallowest. This is not a blanket rule, but that's been my consistent observation. From up close and afar.

An 8/10 looks woman with a 10/10 personality blasts a 10/10 looks woman with a 8/10 personality out of the water every time for me. Because society's 10/10 in looks I actually find borderline ugly. Also, a poor personality can't make up for great looks (and it is nowhere near a cope to say that).

I never said it's the only thing I care about.

Most guys will never date or sleep with an 8/10 woman in their entire life let alone a 10 so it's not a useful way to phrase the discussion IMO. The goal of abundance is to have your cake and eat it too. Both date the hottest and coolest women that you've ever met who are are also deeply in love with you and are ready to join their life to yours and make it an amazing adventure. 

A lot of times attractive women I find don't really have bad personalities they're just really aggressive or dismissive because they have so much options they don't have to be nice to random dudes. Some of them are still quite nice but even the mean ones if you get to know them and they respect you open up like sweet princesses. It's all about your frame and leverage. 

A good example I have that doesn't have to do with hotness but I was the manager of a cafe in downtown Toronto and I had women working under me and a few guys. One of the employees was really incompetent and stressful to work with because he had no idea what he was doing so a specific girl was kind of mean and bitchy to him but really she was trying to make sure that he didn't fuck up and hurt the cafe and make her job harder.

That same girl when was working with me was so sweet relaxed and like a different person because I handled everything so she was able to relax in her femininity. 

Here is a very simple test to know if you can date 8s and above. Make a list of 20 of the hottest women you've ever seen in your entire life. They can be girls you know but I mean literally the hottest women you've ever sene so instagram models, actresses, bottle girls, onlyfans girls, youtubers ,etc. Now ask yourself are you able to even get in a room with these type of girls consistently let alone date them or fuck them or are you watching from a screen and forced to date girls in your real life that actually give you attention? 

It's very easy to delude oneself and that's why looksmatching is a concept, humanity has to progress and if dudes refused to reproduce with anyone but their perfect 10s we would be extinct already. We thankfully live in an era where you can obtain infinite leverage if you so desire and date whoever you want as long as you put the effort in so that's why it's an important and pleasurable quest for me. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LordFall