Is it ok if some men to die virgins?

[Never_give_up]

I think I am one of those men, can't learn game for various brain reasons, no humour etc. . 

I think I will focus on art, languages and becoming 10% body fat (which may never happen)  . 

 

Do you really think a ''loser'' can find a gf? I don't think so. It wasn't meant to happen to me, determinism is cruel  . If things could improve it would be different, but they can't. I wish I could cry to feel better, but it doesn't come out, LOL. Please note, the advice ''learn game'' doesn't work for me cause my brain is wired differently and I have low IQ. People also tell me I have no low IQ just low self confidence. No, I have low IQ, I know it, I can see it, it's so sad that some people have low IQ. That's why I want to know if reincarnation is real, so I go to the next life, but I am so coward I am going to stay and live this life till the end.  I am not a pessimist, I am a realist, if I was high IQ I would not have a problem telling it or keeping it to myself. 

I really needed to vent. Do you think dying a virgin is a big problem? Are any of you in the same position? how do you cope? 

Thank you for all the support and answers you give me all this time, this forum is amazing and helpful, thank you so much. Just saying. 

[aurum]

Some men have always died virgins.

It's not a problem as long as you're not deceiving yourself about your situation. 

[Hojo]

You reincarnate but its not you reincarnating. Pretend all of your ideas and feelings are an idea in Gods mind. Right now you are listening to a part of you thinking this stuff. This part of you is eternal. If you die you can go to the next one but 'you' remain as well. The idea of how sad you are is still there and you reincarnated into this you so that you would cheer yourself up. But right now you are giving up on yourself.

So when you die you will still be sad and crying. You will just a different persepective of yourself. The you that is sad and upset and crying will be like your child and you will want to help it. You did that as God right now. if you as God reincarnated to watch your life and you killed yourself you as God would feel worse.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[Never_give_up]

@HojoI am too coward to suicide anyway, I decided to live my life till the end of this perspective. 

[Hojo]

@Never_give_up Its not cowardly to live as an unattractive retard its very brave and takes courage.

God think you are brave, do not deprecate yourself.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[Mayonnaise]

its not good or bad. just is. But since you made this post its obviously affecting you of some importance.  Just curious though, how many women do you actually talk to and meet on a regular basis? To get laid consistently you have to make a habit out of playing the numbers game either online or in person (both is best). I wouldn't be so quick to place yourself into a box of "no girl wants me". You have to socialize and reinvent yourself and the way you think about yourself. If you automatically resort to giving up then thats exactly what you'll get. You need to think of yourself as no woman is out of your league. If you really want to get laid, youd find a way. you probably don't care enough to become a version of yourself to get the job done. If you literally go out everyday and approach 3-5 women for 6 months and aim to move things forward whilst being detached from outcome. you'll get laid. the laws of probability will get you laid just by sheer volume (assuming you're not being a complete weirdo and behaving normal). As for game, good game is good game because the girl already likes you. You don't want to fall into the trap of "i hope she likes me", instead you screen for sexually available high interest women and then move things forward by leading. A lot of men don't get laid because they dont have a daily habit of socializing/meeting women. solve that first and you'll naturally get better and more comfortable. Don't let the discomfort block you from doing what you want. Rejection is normal.  Do what you want in life, go after it, just do it. develop that attitude.

[bazera]

@Never_give_up Game and humor isn't the only way to get a girlfriend, you know that right?

You also know that probably most of men on this planet don't know or even heard of a concept of "learning a game" but still date and mate, right?

Do you have high standards for women? Would you be willing to date a girl that you don't find super hot necessarily?

I've seen on youtube videos where guys with no arms and legs, 600 pound guys, guys with exetremely deformed bodies, etc have girlfriends and even beautiful wifes and children.

I just don't get why are you so hopeless, can you help me understand?

Edited 11 hours ago by bazera

[LordFall]

Okay for who? Nobody else really cares what you do in life. Should you in your own mind be okay dying a virgin? Fuck no.

How many cold approaches have you done in your life? Do you assume you suck at it or are you too scared to try? 

Your excuses are silly. Humor is learned/practiced. Probably easier to get laid with low IQ than high. You can totally learn to get laid consistently. 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by LordFall

[Basman]

There been plenty of times of history where young guys got sent to some war and a lot of them died virgins. The human race is built such that you don't need a lot of guys to bounce back and propagate after a calamity, seemingly by design. So in that sense, if you die a virgin the world will move on just fine without you. It doesn't matter to anyone but you.

No one is going to save you. So why not just go for it? I will always recommend that you just make it a goal instead of crying about it. Goals are done in stages and actionable steps. You will eventually achieve your goal if you set your mind to it. If you are a loser then stop being a loser. Go to the gym, develop your skills, talk to people, etc. Circumstances might make it marginally more difficult for you compared to other guys, but what's holding you back is your mindset.

Also dude, remember we live in the 21st century. Never been a better time in human history to meet a breath of girls. People in past times had nowhere near the same opportunities for sex. You just need to seize the opportunity. It's on you if you miss out. That is the most important thing I want to impress on you. It's your choice. Either you make a choice to get what you want or you won't.

Edited 9 hours ago by Basman

[integral]

Did you put the bare miminum effort?

I was in the gym since i was 14, I had the body of an athlete by 17.

Are you trying at all?

Normally when people are complaining a lot they absorb this complaining mental disease from their parents.

Complaining is to the level of a mental disorder, the victim mindset.

There is no reason to ever complain, it only appears that way because the mind has been trained to do it.

When something doesn't go our way there are many modes of thinking available, complaining is just one. 

Edited 4 hours ago by integral

[integral]

8 hours ago, Never_give_up said:

I really needed to vent.

Do not vent, take action.

When you don't feel good, stand up, walk out the door and go do something about it.

[Jannes]

@Never_give_up  Didnt you make a thread already asking if you can get laid with low iq and got the answer that its totally possible? 

[Elliott]

Sex for sex is StOopId

[Majed]

@Never_give_up  There are tradeoffs in personality types. Sages and mystics tend to be ascetic and virgins. Just because sex isn't their focus. Their focus is consciousness and spirituality. On the other hand, sex addicts tend to be Godless, immoral, selfish and materialistic. 

I think religion gives a good balance for the ordinary man when it comes to sex. Which is to do it in the bound of marriage with a person you're committed to. Traditional marriage works for most people. I don't know about your situation, but I would say if you want sex with someone, you should be cultivating friendships with people and then naturally someone you appreciate will be interested in having sex with you.

If you're like me however, friendships isn't your thing, for you understand that the path to wisdom is inwards, and that ultimately friendship is a waste. You could die a virgin and be happy. 

Pornography is also a good artform, that could help you on a daily basis satisfy your urges. 

The problem with sex is the focus and effort it takes to get it, for example if you're doing pick up, being social, or cultivating friendships, it takes way too much effort. If you aren't that interested in sex, it isn't worth it, in my opinion. 

Ultimately, it's flexible and up to you to decide which path you want to go down. Don't treat it like an obligation, whether to be a virgin, or to have sex. For wisdom lies in context awareness. 

[Elliott]

Don't use porn, it's a drug.

[Schizophonia]

Ask for help; this could be medication to boost your motivation, a dating coach, or friends. 

[Schizophonia]

6 hours ago, LordFall said:

 

excuses

Because his primary unconscious desire isn't to have a girlfriend, but to have more strength or energy to potentially succeed.
That’s why he’s asking this question; he’s secretly hoping someone will contradict him by injecting positive energy.

 

There isn't much we can do but as I said he could get coaching, take stimulant medication, practice semen retention and so on.

Edited 4 hours ago by Schizophonia

[enchanted]

10 hours ago, Never_give_up said:

I think I am one of those men, can't learn game for various brain reasons, no humour etc. . 

I think I will focus on art, languages and becoming 10% body fat (which may never happen)  . 

 

The irony is that doing this will give you the highest chances of getting a gf, given that you don't blow the chance and open your mouth to say a few words when the opportunity arises.

But yes it's 100% ok to die a virgin, Isaac Newton did. Sex is like heroin or money, it never satisfies long term and with it come more unanticipated problems, not to mention the offspring that sometimes come with it. Sex is a complete delusion that is ment to trick you into reproducing. Vowing off sex is one of the smartest, most intelligent, and peaceful things you can do. 

Edited 3 hours ago by enchanted

[bazera]

52 minutes ago, enchanted said:

But yes it's 100% ok to die a virgin, Isaac Newton did.

I don't think the average person is like Netwon. He wasn't probably complaining about it.

I suspect it's much bigger issue for OP then it was for Isaac. 

[enchanted]

51 minutes ago, bazera said:

I don't think the average person is like Netwon. He wasn't probably complaining about it.

I suspect it's much bigger issue for OP then it was for Isaac. 

Yes but his question was is ok to die a virgin. Of course it's ok. Our debased sex obsessed society  will tell you otherwise. 

There's a great quote by 17th century French writer François de La Rochefoucauld in his book of maxims: " There are some people who would never have fallen in love if they hadn't heard there was such a thing." 

There is huge social conditioning to think it's not ok to die a virgin. It's in large part corporate brainwashing to get us to spend more. In many societies celebacy is celebrated. So much waste, idiocy, sorrow, evil comes from the hedonistic persuit of sexual pleasure.

But yes if OP wants to get laid and stuff I encourage that also. I value freedom of choice. 

Edited 2 hours ago by enchanted