Is taking children to church a form of child abuse?

[integral]

7 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Holy shit, maybe it's an INTJ type trait ? I think you are INTJ, if I am not mistaken.

I resisted all parts of schooling constantly 'I won't do this unless I see why, or where I can apply it'. I paid no attention and disregarded a lot of subjects for this reason.

My grades were atrocious. Until one day my Dad sat down with me and gave me the hard words. That even though I didn't see a use for what I was being taught, later on in life much of it would apply, I was just too ignorant and young to understand this. I needed to trust him, he said. 

My Dad is an engineer and construction manager. He taught me all about electrical work and low voltage DC circuits when younger (I learned PC building and software form him). I listened to him, because he knew his shit. He had applied knowledge I could see manifest in reality in concrete, tangible ways. He and my Grandfather were the only two family members I would listen to. 

At around 14 years old I decided I better learn this shit. Skipped a grade and was throttled into accelerated specialist, methods and general maths. Completed high school level maths in year 10. So I had only half load for my final 2 years prior to graduation. 

All my teachers, prior to applying myself, were trying to hold me back and concerned I had retarded development.

I was just an arrogant, pig headed INTJ who thought I was being forced into rubbish schooling that had no application 🤣🤣🤣

But it's a good case for minors needing guidance from parents. Neglect can be it's own abuse.

 

LMAO for sure its genetic.

Your story is very similar to mine, they even put me in special education because they thought i was retarded but at the same time i was already a chess master at 12, it made no sense to them, so they thought I had Asperger's. 

Really I identified that they were teaching me was completely useless, like French, and I had this Vision that chess was merging my brain hemispheres together strengthening my corpus callosum like the stories I heard of Einstein.

I was obsessed with being as intelligent as possible from a very young age, I prioritized intelligence over everything else but the education system put me in special education LMFAO. I took it as Pride that I was so intelligent that they mistook me for an idiot

And then like you I started applying myself and destroyed everything. Learning curriculum spread out in front of you is Child's Play.

Edited 12 hours ago by integral

[Starlight321]

3 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

@Leo Gura 

It’s funny that you think there aren’t many downsides when school is designed to make people slaves to their own minds. It’s even funnier because you’re someone who claims to strive for enlightenment and to think outside the box.

 

 

@Monster Energyhalf the population is too stupid to make sense of the world even with school.  There are aspects like grades, curriculum and pressure which are harmful for children but cannot be avoided on our current level of developement (somebody has to do the dirty work). I have seen and talked to hundreds of alternative people with their alternative ideas which are destroying society more than our school system.

[Carl-Richard]

16 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

It’s not abuse because a healthy society needs rules.

School (or rather "education") is a rule, it's mandated by law; all but 11 countries in the entire world have it. And if you want people to follow the law, you need them to understand the law at a basic level and perhaps be able to read and write, and mandatory schooling is supposed to ensure that.

You could say "but I don't want schooling to be a rule", but then I would say you underestimate the impact of 200-300 years of mandatory schooling in the West and how it has created the well-functioning society you see around you.

School can be improved, but you would probably still want something similar to the current system if you want people to follow laws.

Interesting fun fact: Norway was the first country in the world to get mandatory education laws in 1739, beating Sweden by over 100 years lol.

 

16 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

School is abuse because it limits consciousness with false claims

As opposed to what? Consuming YouTube videos?

 

16 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

and teaches obedience instead of questioning. It’s not healthy.

Obedience was not a problem when you said society needs rules.

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[sholomar]

No more or less than woke people trying to reassign their child a different gender at birth... the woke and the religious right are two sides of the same coin, both loony cults with loony people who have loony belief systems they want to force upon everyone else.   Don't kid yourself, there are plenty of socialist utopians here who would love to force some utopian autocracy on everyone against their will and think it would work when it wouldn't. 

Edited 2 hours ago by sholomar