Anyone here already in love with the darkest parts of reality?

[Vynce]

Simple setup:

Imagine the darkest, most hellish forms to experience reality as a human. Some imaginary day you as God are going to live through that from every perspective. Of course also from the victims POV. 

Do you love that? Are you excited about that?

trigger warning:

@Leo Gura have you had experiences/insights of love and excitement towards the perspective of (for example) getting raped by your dad for 16 years in their basement, being pregnant over and over with him? 

end trigger warning

In what ways can I get so conscious of victims of cruelty that understanding and love start to emerge? Not that its completely impossible, but how can I say I'm Love if I push away those aspects of reality?

 

[gettoefl]

I like to read and study the darkest of the dark. I want to understand. And I have come to. I devour all true crime and deviant personality studies - I volunteer in the prison and work soup kitchens and shelters. There is a reason people get where they get. They were treated deplorably and they dish that out on others as being the only response they know. Hurt people hurt people. The more awake you become you move from I mind what happens to I care what happens. You see everyone as broken wounded fragile. You recognise I could be them very easily. There but for grace go I. I am willing to go through shit if need be. I will take a bullet to the head if it will save a hostage's or a child's life. Reason is I believe that would be a force for good in the perpetrator's mind. Could be a turning point. My life does not mean anything now that I see.

[moonawakening444]

we get too attached to suffering and we forget this will all end when we die

[Toranvor]

4 minutes ago, moonawakening444 said:

we get too attached to suffering and we forget this will all end when we die

You can't be sure, as long as you are incarnated in some kind of form you will suffer.

[moonawakening444]

Just now, Toranvor said:

You can't be sure, as long as you are incarnated in some kind of form you will suffer.

incarnated and form are concepts 

[oOo]

@Vynce This is classiness H.P Lovecraft territory. You'd love his books.

[Vynce]

3 hours ago, oOo said:

@Vynce This is classiness H.P Lovecraft territory. You'd love his books.

I mean its not part of REALITY, so yeah history books it is. 

However my point was directed into a totally different direction. 

[decentralized]

 

[Lila9]

No, I am not "in love" with the darkest parts of reality.

I just have no other option but to accept that they exist and to accept any feelings that arise from the pain that emerges from that, the melancholy, the sadness, the anger, the frustration without repressing it, escaping it, spiritually bypassing it, or overly intellectualizing it.

And then to alchemize those feelings into doing better and flourishing, because this is the true meaning of alchemy. Transforming pain and darkness into prosperity, light, and healing.

There is goodness, and therefore there is devilry.

We live in a dual and finite world. While it is sometimes difficult to notice the exact moment or point at which good becomes evil or evil becomes good, as the borders are blurry, there is still Good and Bad. Such an interesting paradox.

[No1Here2c]

@Lila9

You'll find it much Nicer to Fall in Love than you will to tolerate.

[Lila9]

12 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

@Lila9

You'll find it much Nicer to Fall in Love than you will to tolerate.

I am already in love with life and existence. This is my very lover. I fell in love with the good and just forced to tolerate the bad, like in most relationships.

Edited 8 hours ago by Lila9

[No1Here2c]

6 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

I am already in love with life and existence. This is my very lover. I felt in love with the good and just forced to tolerate the bad, like in most relationships.

Love the Bad as you  do the Good and you Shall find your Pearly Gates.

Narrow Straits.

Edited 8 hours ago by No1Here2c

[Lila9]

3 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Pearly Gates.

What is it? 

[No1Here2c]

1 minute ago, Lila9 said:

What is it? 

Utilize all your available tools my Love.

[Someone here]

I think there are two sides to my answer to this question: the mental side and the physical and physiological side.

Mentally… I understand that not a single atom in the universe is out of place. Everything is exactly as it should be :right ..okay and perfect in its own way ..no matter what is happening in my life or in the world.

Physically the body will still experience pain if I am being tortured or harmed. The goal is not to physically tolerate everything that happens in life because that is impossible by design. For example ..if you ignore hunger your body will eventually die.

Instead.. the goal is to lessen mental suffering by becoming more conscious of the neutrality..inevitability.. and indifference of life. This awareness can reduce suffering and eliminate the unnecessary layers of suffering we add on top of what we experience.

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Someone here

[Lila9]

6 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Utilize all your available tools my Love.

You give me the vibe of @Keryo Koffa 🙂 

Are they with us? 

[Ziran]

23 hours ago, Vynce said:

Do you love that?  Are you excited about that?

Not in a conventional manner.

The excitement is an arousal, a stirring.  It's excitement better described as agitation.

The love for the "lowest-of-the-low" is rooted in the inherent negative valence.

[Ziran]

21 hours ago, Toranvor said:

You can't be sure, as long as you are incarnated in some kind of form you will suffer.

and ... you'll like it.