Owen Cooks Dropping BOMBS!

[bazera]

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If I was teaching bootcamps, all I would do is teach guys how to truly party.

@Leo Gura I thought that was the point of a bootcamp, I haven't been to one but if that isn't happening, what are those guys paying thousands of dollars for? Just to be pushed to approcah?

It's a great feeling when you just don't care at the party about any outcomes and are enjoying yourself with humor and playfulness. 

But of course if you are there to practice approaching, that comes with anxiety, at least for me. That's where the "work" comes into play.

[Leo Gura]

22 minutes ago, bazera said:

Just to be pushed to approcah?

Yeah. And often not even that.

RSD bootcamps are notoriously sloppy and directionless.

Depends on the instructor and location.

Edited 19 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Raze]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The irony is this:

Before pickup you are just you.

Doing pickup you try too hard to be better than you, so you come across as insecure.

And after pickup you are just you.

The notion of holding frame itself creates a dynamic where you are insecure and lose frame. Whereas someone who doesn't even know about frame is just comfortably himself.

I think all of Owen's technical game can be simplified down to: learn how to go out and party. That's really what pickup is emulating.

Why are people out at clubs in the first place? It is not to get laid, it is to party. Guys who don't know how to party are the nerds who can't get laid.

If I was teaching bootcamps, all I would do is teach guys how to truly party.

Any drunk frat boy can party with their friends. 

You still won’t know how to game sober, be confident in new or intimidating environments, and actually seal the deal beyond the drunk girls who essentially pick you up. 

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Raze said:

Any drunk frat boy can party with their friends. 

But I mean party sober by yourself.

And of course you need experience handling girls.

I was oversimplifying it.

[AION]

7 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AION You are applying one solution to a completely different domain.

Wooosshhh

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Proper socialization and talking to chicks will do it. Social game - they call it?

You will end up desensitized to the novelty / nervousness. Which will let you sink into authenticity. Which women love.

You will walk away with skills in how to read girls. I know they teach spam approach, but I also surmise they must be emphasizing assessing women's body language, signals etc? I am also assuming you get to a breakpoint where you see less rejection because you read the 'yes' signals from the chick better and are hitting the mark.

 

 

[Miguel1]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I disagree with that.

Value mismatch and growing apart are natural things. They should not be framed as mistakes the man made.

"If only I gamed her harder we would not have grown apart" is a really wrong way of thinking about relationships.

You misunderstood me.

I tried to be cheeky. I agree with him, if you date immature, highly unconscious club girls.

These girls do not know what they value, and simply follow blindly where strenght, leadership and status takes them.

I wrote ”nore” last night and meant ”not”. I literally fell asleep 10 sec after that 

Been a brutal week.

[Butters]

@Leo Gura what is a girl? Should they be treated like a human? Why are we learning all these strategies on how to deal with "girls" like they're some sort of alien creature? Why is this pickup so unnatural? So it goes against nature? 

[LordFall]

2 minutes ago, Butters said:

@Leo Gura what is a girl? Should they be treated like a human? Why are we learning all these strategies on how to deal with "girls" like they're some sort of alien creature? Why is this pickup so unnatural? So it goes against nature? 

Everything in life you know you have spent a very long time learning. You spent a lot of time learning to walk, think, read, write internet comments, get a job, etc. Existing is hard and thriving even more so. If you wan't high quality relationships with girls you're gonna have to work for it as well just like anything worth getting in this life. 

 

[Miguel1]

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I think part of Owen's problem might be that he is trying to date 9s and 10s, models, but he is not good looking enough to keep a model. He can bullshit a model into dating him, but he probably can't keep her for long because she has so many other options. And this makes him paranoid and insecure about losing girls, needing him to frame control them and so on.

This!!

I have been contemplating that idea on and off for months.

Because putting myself in a hot girl’s shoes, it’s very hard to imagine myself dating seriously someone who looks like Owen, even if he has other great stuff going on for him.

Like, why the hell would I be settling with Owen’s looks when I can get a much hotter guy.

Looks matters. Way more than PUAs like to admit.

[Miguel1]

20 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Ha! To think anyone could frame control me.

You are:

 

 

A song I’m highly vibing atm lol

Edited 6 hours ago by Miguel1

[Miguel1]

But yeah, I gotta give it to Leo again.

Deeply insighful thoughts about relationships here. I pretty much agree with everything.

Truly, the key to a healthy loving relationship, is to screen HARD for sane, mature people.

[Miguel1]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I think all of Owen's technical game can be simplified down to: learn how to go out and party. That's really what pickup is emulating.

To be fair, his whole shtick behind the endless rambling is to get people to let go, let loose and to have fun.

Edited 6 hours ago by Miguel1

[Zenterus]

On 15/03/2026 at 7:09 PM, Leo Gura said:

Real relationships don't require so many games.

You don't need to be frame-controlling your wife. That is so stupid.

Owen makes the problem out to be that women leave him when he stops frame-dominating them. When it truth they leave him because he is a narcissistic asshole with an insane lifestyle who will never change, and that no healthy woman could tolerate.

 

Guys, I feel like a lot of what is said here is completely disregarding the fact that OWEN IS LITERALLY ON THE SPECTRUM.

There are people who have met him who have said that when Owen isn't actively gaming, his autism is VERY obvious.

Game for him is his lifeline to being cool, which is a big desire for him due to his childhood wounds. Couple that with his autistic obsession with status, social dynamics and influence and voilá!

The reason Owen can't keep a woman is BECAUSE of his autism. He can't relate to women normally, so he has to rely on status and game tactics to attract and keep them.

In his program Hot Seat at Home, he literally admits that women such as strippers naturally gravitate to him because he is good at playing the "pimp role" as he calls it.

Social manipulation is how Owen relates to the world. His empathy is performative. Jeffy said so himself in RSD Luke's social circle program. He revealed that Owen has TERRIBLE social calibration because he lacks the emotional sensitivity to other people's emotions, so his whole "game" hinges on doing approaches that are SUPER STRONG - like, picking the girl up as an opener - which ends up massively polarizing the girls so much that if he meets a girl who is down then she's DOWN, but every other girl (probably 99.9999% of girls) just harshly reject him.

Rsd Luke and Jeffy even mentioned that Owen regularly gets kicked out of bars and doesnt even REALIZE that he's been kicked out. He is that socially unaware because of his autism!

 

Here is a video of another PUA coach who also noticed the peculiarities of Owen's psychology:

https://youtu.be/P_lNGuuJtAo?is=efVnLFwKNLAjwrsJ

 

 

[LordFall]

I'm sure Owen's particular psychology doesn't help him keep order in his personal relationships but let's not pretend that relationship issues are unique to autistic people lol.

You don't think average people with no noteworthy psyc diagnosis deal with issues in their relationships?

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/

Pick random threads and read through. After you read a bunch you'll see most relationship problems are very common. Lack of self-awareness, poor communication skills, repressed identity, lack of leadership from the man, etc. 

 

[Zenterus]

21 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I'm sure Owen's particular psychology doesn't help him keep order in his personal relationships but let's not pretend that relationship issues are unique to autistic people lol.

You don't think average people with no noteworthy psyc diagnosis deal with issues in their relationships?

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/

Pick random threads and read through. After you read a bunch you'll see most relationship problems are very common. Lack of self-awareness, poor communication skills, repressed identity, lack of leadership from the man, etc. 

 

Of course everyone has relationship issues, dude.

What is peculiar about Owen though is his extensive pickup and dating experience 

You'd think after nearly 30 years in the game, he would have figured shit out already. Pickup does have its traps when it comes to relationships, but most mentally healthy (and neurotypical) men eventually realize this and make the necessary changes.

RSD Julien is married, Todd is settled down with a child and a girlfriend, Jeffy is settled with a girlfriend too, same with Max.

The only ones still struggling are the neurodivergent ones such as Mystery, Jmulv (if the rumours about his relationship are true), Owen Cook etc..

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Zenterus

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Zenterus said:

Guys, I feel like a lot of what is said here is completely disregarding the fact that OWEN IS LITERALLY ON THE SPECTRUM.

There are people who have met him who have said that when Owen isn't actively gaming, his autism is VERY obvious.

Game for him is his lifeline to being cool, which is a big desire for him due to his childhood wounds. Couple that with his autistic obsession with status, social dynamics and influence and voilá!

The reason Owen can't keep a woman is BECAUSE of his autism. He can't relate to women normally, so he has to rely on status and game tactics to attract and keep them.

In his program Hot Seat at Home, he literally admits that women such as strippers naturally gravitate to him because he is good at playing the "pimp role" as he calls it.

Social manipulation is how Owen relates to the world. His empathy is performative. Jeffy said so himself in RSD Luke's social circle program. He revealed that Owen has TERRIBLE social calibration because he lacks the emotional sensitivity to other people's emotions, so his whole "game" hinges on doing approaches that are SUPER STRONG - like, picking the girl up as an opener - which ends up massively polarizing the girls so much that if he meets a girl who is down then she's DOWN, but every other girl (probably 99.9999% of girls) just harshly reject him.

Rsd Luke and Jeffy even mentioned that Owen regularly gets kicked out of bars and doesnt even REALIZE that he's been kicked out. He is that socially unaware because of his autism!

Yes, thanks for sharing this. I don't know Owen personally, but this rings true.

Over-compensating for autism and looks makes sense.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

Like, why the hell would I be settling with Owen’s looks when I can get a much hotter guy.

He's also an overweight dad with 3 kids who never gives a girl exclusivity.

It's a hard sell.

Haha!

But if anyone can sell that, it's Owen.

I think that's why he feels the need to spend a lot of money on girls. If you pay a stripper $250k, she will stick around. That's like 2 years of stripping.

If you had $250k to give, you could literally just walk into a strip club and hire a personal girlfriend for 2 years. Then she will run away and probably cheat around on the side.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Zen LaCroix]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's also an overweight dad with 3 kids who never gives a girl exclusivity.

It's a hard sell.

Haha!

But if anyone can sell that, it's Owen.

I think that's why he feels the need to spend a lot of money on girls. If you pay a stripper $250k, she will stick around. That's like 2 years of stripping.

Owen loves those crazy BPD girls which is why he always talks about them

 

He's also a super night owl. The whole team that he has is. His lifestyle is not conducive to dating a woman with a regular job. He lives a fast life with lots of sex, partying, traveling, networking at all hours of the day. He travels a lot too

He actually clicks with women that care a lot about status get lots of plastic surgery etc from what I've seen but I don't know that much about him

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Zen LaCroix said:

Owen loves those crazy BPD girls

I see now why he turned to Christianity.

Only God can help him there.