A Critical Perspective on Psychedelic Use

[Eskilon]

1 hour ago, Oppositionless said:

That was a really nice video.

Title was kinda click baitey lol. For those who didn't watch it, Dakota gave 5 meo to three different Sadhus. Two of them had profound experiences. So the ratio isn't 100% non-response but 33%.

The guy who didn't get much from it, you can just look into that guy's eyes and see the realization. And after talking to him Dakota says something really deep: "There's a difference between experiencing something profound and becoming someone profound."

When people don't respond to psychedelics, I'm mindful of the genetic component, but  looking into that Sadhu's eyes I'm convinced it's more than genetic for him. Dude is simply There.

Becoming someone profound isn't flashy, often isn't fun, and isn't easy, but it's the core of spirituality. 

The video is nice. And I agree with you, the eyes of this yogis are totally different from a normie eyes. You look into their eyes and you start to wonder stuff. Meanwhile you look into a normal person eyes and its full of ugliness(usually). Not just the eyes, the face have a totally different quality to it.

Edited Tuesday at 10:26 PM by Eskilon

[Oppositionless]

3 hours ago, Eskilon said:

The video is nice. And I agree with you, the eyes of this yogis are totally different from a normie eyes. You look into their eyes and you start to wonder stuff. Meanwhile you look into a normal person eyes and its full of ugliness(usually). Not just the eyes, the face have a totally different quality to it.

Some people are genuinely ugly, but most of the people I vibe with are just anxious and a little (or a lot) sad.

[Carl-Richard]

On 1.3.2026 at 2:05 AM, Eskilon said:

 

This video is on point at what we are talking here. Psychedelics are powerful but they are momentary and they dont seems to liberate people. They give glimpses and might even change your baseline for the better, but they might not be the ultimate tool like people in this forum tend to believe.

The forum used to be like this, it used to have this view, then something very wrong happened. It was a slow change that culminated with the kicking of @Nahm. The forum was never the same after that. That was the best time, all the best people and conversations were had. Now it's a forum of suck-ups and outcasts.

[Joshe]

18 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Now it's a forum of suck-ups and outcasts.

😂

It would be interesting to get a comprehensive, accurate account of Actualized.org's evolution. 

[Joseph Maynor]

On 3/3/2026 at 6:55 PM, Carl-Richard said:

The forum used to be like this, it used to have this view, then something very wrong happened. It was a slow change that culminated with the kicking of @Nahm. The forum was never the same after that. That was the best time, all the best people and conversations were had. Now it's a forum of suck-ups and outcasts.

I spent years on his forum as a caveat.  I'm curious why you think he is the crux of the turning point.

Edited Friday at 08:15 PM by Joseph Maynor

[Carl-Richard]

On 6.3.2026 at 9:15 PM, Joseph Maynor said:

I spent years on his forum as a caveat.  I'm curious why you think he is the crux of the turning point.

Leo didn't just kick out Nahm for talking funny. He actually started cracking down on non-duality (if in name only; I can't remember him actually banning anybody for it). It was quite funny actually because nobody actually knew what he (Leo) was talking about, only him, so he had to crack down on literally everybody, but using non-duality as a scapegoat was the simplest way.

Him kicking Nahm for talking "incomprehensively" was ironically likely only a projection of his own inability to make himself understood (which he now directly vocalizes as "you don't understand what I'm talking about"). Then he calmed down over time (we know why that was). And now I'm back, talking about non-duality again. I had to take a break, not because I needed, but because I wasn't allowed to talk about it.

And if you think I'm making this shit up:

First read the "Nahm Demoted" thread with the hints towards "non-duality teachings do not resonate with God-realization or Actualized.org teachings" (paraphrasing), then read these comments:

 

On 5.11.2022 at 4:22 AM, Leo Gura said:

@vladorion I'm tired of listening to your nonsense. If you do not open your mind I am banning you.

You have zero idea what Consciousness is. Zero. Yet you keep acting like you do.

This goes not just for you, but for any others here who subcribe to Buddhism and nonduality. Your arrogance knows no limits and I will be banning all of you if you do not start to demonstrate openmindedness.

Consider this your last warning.

Bonus post (response to this comment, echoes what has been said in this thread):

On 5.11.2022 at 6:16 AM, vladorion said:

You just don't see how arrogant you are.

It seems that the more trips you have the more arrogant you become.

You should use psychs to do shadow work instead of boosting your ego.

 

On 10.7.2023 at 5:53 AM, Leo Gura said:

Nonduality is a wave in a cesspool made by scurrying rats.

Do not corrupt my forum with your rat-waves.

 

On 10.7.2023 at 7:41 PM, Leo Gura said:

Nothing induces more false insight than human science, nonduality, and Buddhism.

All human spirituality is false insight.

 

On 10.7.2023 at 7:45 PM, Leo Gura said:

Usefulness has nothing to do with insight. Insight is true regardless of whether is has any use to you. There is no connection between raw insight and your attachments. You are parroting Buddhist dogma without actually thinking it through. That is the evil of Buddhism and the misinformation you spread on this forum.

You will NEVER AWAKEN through Buddhism.

 

Bonus posts, legend @Osaid implicitly reflects my concerns on Infinity of Gods (as Maya), and Alien Awakening too:

On 6.11.2022 at 11:38 PM, Osaid said:

On 6.11.2022 at 10:15 PM, Space said:

Leo mentioned a while back that he was considering (maybe half-jokingly) sprinkling in a bunch of false claims and ideas into his teachings in order to make sure we don't just believe everything he says. I feel like Alien God is one of those - or maybe not.

I've had that exact comment in my mind ever since his infinity of gods video

 

Bonus post ("who understands? Only Leo"):

On 5.11.2022 at 3:14 AM, Leo Gura said:

[...)

There is only one true Awakening, and it is Alien Infinity. I am the only Being on this planet who understands this.

[...]

 

And of course, all the comments linked happened in the time after Nahm got demoted and he created a non-dual exodus when he started recruiting to his forum and eventually got banned on this forum. Those left were the suck-ups who could tolerate "you don't know what you're talking about" and only Leo being "the only awake being in existence".

 

By the way, most of the comments are taken from a thread by @ardacigin, a rare genius, deconstructing solipsism and also Leo's various backflipping Mickey Mouse alien awakenings as MAYA (a thread I had forgotten about but which I channeled in spirit when I made my own threads/comments on these topics later).

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Joseph Maynor]

@Carl-Richard  I feel like we want to wash away the fact that we have had many gripes against people.  Even as spiritual egos.  Me included.  Generally speaking, if you look at actual history you can see the story that actually unfolded.