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Is God a Person?

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What is one to think of religious and spiritual discourse which refers to god anthropomorphically?

My own understanding is that such terminology exists primarily within a theistic and devotional context, as opposed to esoteric accounts of what is beyond even God such as the Absolute, the Unconditioned and Nothingness.


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God is not human but it's sentient 

God is intelligence 

God is alive

God is existence 

Truly this World is the living God

So God is both this Reality and unbounded by it (infinite)

Like a mirror that reflects all experiences and is all experiences potentially 

Also consider there's no God without you, nor anything without you. You are the the needle by which the thread of this world-dream goes through.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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10 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

What is one to think of religious and spiritual discourse which refers to god anthropomorphically?

Good question. 

If god is infinite then god necessarily possesses human attributes.

If god wants to be known, then it makes sense to reveal itself using these human attributes.

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the real question is, are you a person?

ponder that for a while:)

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14 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

the real question is, are you a person?

Yes but actually no..of course. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Which god, the Abrahamic one? Aren't we shaped in God's image?

Anthropomorphising God makes Him easier to reason about and understand for the masses. In the Bible He's portrayed as very much the head of the household of humanity and male, because reasons. 

Away from conventional religions, I don't see a problem with having a personal god or gods (Roman style) and making them non-human or even something completely abstract. Why not.


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I don't understand such posts . Bro ..Leo has videos on God from 10 years ago. People who sign up to this forum presumably have listen to that. 

The Jews naild Jesus on the cross because he said me and the father are one . They thought its blasphemy and now Leo is saying I'm God every five minutes it became redundant. 

There is this huge problem between Islamic sects over "does Allah really have an ass or is it metaphorical "?

 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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God cannot be a human, because a human is a limited finite form.

 


"Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. 

I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay.

 And it goes On and On, On and On"

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2 hours ago, Davino said:

God is not human but it's sentient 

God is intelligence 

God is alive

God is existence 

Truly this World is the living God

So God is both this Reality and unbounded by it (infinite)

Like a mirror that reflects all experiences and is all experiences potentially 

Also consider there's no God without you, nor anything without you. You are the the needle by which the thread of this world-dream goes through.

Thank you for your answer. The idea of God being alive intrigues me. What does it mean for God to be alive? In ordinary language, life is something which belongs to biological organisms.


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God isn't a person but all persons. When you pray to God as if he's a person this has value , just keep in mind the person who will answer your prayer won't be the "totality" but a very big, very  loving placeholder, like the avatars in Hindu mythology. This isn't a bad thing , if God was strictly speaking a person he would be limited, what you want if you want human connection with God is for an avatar to answer your prayer.

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Its the field in front of you, the field in front of you is your imagination. Its a human a person and way more. Imagine your personal imagination and the field in front of you were the same thing twisted. Enclosed in one side the nothing of the universe. 

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Yes. 

It’s also not a person.

What can be a person and not a person at the same time?

GOD

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"If triangles had a God, he would have three sides."


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Natasha Tori Maru hi:) can you catch me up briefly about what happened...did everybody agree to hide all the messages? i was away for a bit so i missed that part.

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6 hours ago, Oeaohoo said:

What does it mean for God to be alive? In ordinary language, life is something which belongs to biological organisms.

As in creating itself. DNA replication inside you is God creating itself, you forming thoughts/ideas while reading this or doing whatever else is God creating itself. Same for nuclear fusion powering stars and whatnot, but it goes far beyond the material; God also creates time, mathematical truths and their discovery. Any process and state is created by God through imagination. It creates every distinction too, such as organic vs. inorganic, life vs. death. Someone biologically alive and in otherwise perfect health can feel soul-dead (depressed) as they're God unconsciously creating a perception of reality as negative or meaningless. The more this is understood and integrated into baseline consciousness, the more alive one feels. 


Whichever way you turn, there is the face of God

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Dream bodies can never know their maker. It’d be like saying; consciousness created consciousness.

There’s no such thing as a creator, which would imply limitation and lack, where there is none in the totality of everything.

Once you think God is a noun, person, place, or thing, you separate yourself from it and immediately become a limited being. 

 


I AM The Last Idiot 

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46 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’d be like saying; consciousness created consciousness.

Ironic how this is framed as reductio ad absurdum, when in fact it's a tautology on par with "existence exists" and exactly how reality 'came to be'.
God created itself, causality, limitation, and separation. 


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He might be. That is essentially the entire tension between contemporary non-duality, analytical idealism, the mystical but still scientifically subscribing (naturalists), and Christians, Muslims, who are more open to the super-natural (and the brilliant cross-over: Christian perennialist panentheists, e.g. Rupert Sheldrake, who studies wacky shit like whether the Sun is conscious).

Threading the needle is to remain agnostic: if you're a scientific andy, not that much evidence of a God that more or less literally speaks the world into existence through his divinely ordained plan (at least that I know, maybe somebody could make the case better than I can). But it's not exactly a divine impossibility either.

I can't believe I'm linking this video of all videos on this topic, but Nick Fuentes (colloquially labelled neo-nazi) presented a similar tension here (not the meta-cognitive vs non-meta-cognitive God tension but the "tendency towards mystical phenomena associated with the Third Eye" tension, sort of tangential but anyway):

1:02-1:23 (when D starts talking, the clip is over).

 

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16 hours ago, Oeaohoo said:

Thank you for your answer. The idea of God being alive intrigues me. What does it mean for God to be alive? In ordinary language, life is something which belongs to biological organisms.

Everything is alive at different degrees, everything is consciousness at different states and spaces.

Your experience right now is not material, it's a phenomenology, meaning sensations, a soup of consciousness divinely harmonized.

Be aware that this world/moment is made out of Pure Consciousness, then you're Awake.

Realize this present experience is a manifestation of Pure Infinity, making Reality totally boundless (no edges/end) and groundless (ungraspable/self-evident). Awake into higher and more complete orders of Infinity, Consciousness, Love, Truth, Perfection, strange-loops, and so on so forth.

Then by the self-touch of Divine grace, One may be blessed to be God-Conscious or enter into God-Mode. Here words lack description, it's hard to walk, hard to take the next breath, God's Immense Presence Saturates all of Reality. One is God, nothingness is God, All is God; God and only God, for Infinity.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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