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[gettoefl]

Communication is simple. You get 60 seconds to speak or 6 sentences to write. That is all my bandwidth accords you. This is a imparting style known as parliamentary procedure - look it up - which was adopted by Toastmasters. Intelligence and respect for others, is how to speak in a minute folks. Set the buzzer and then stop your six sentences.

[vibv]

16 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Ralston has created an echochamber around himself

That's kind of a general human tendency, it seems. I mean, who really likes to be truly challenged?

[Joseph Maynor]

4 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Communication is simple. You get 60 seconds to speak or 6 sentences to write. That is all my bandwidth accords you. This is a imparting style known as parliamentary procedure - look it up - which was adopted by Toastmasters. Intelligence and respect for others, is how to speak in a minute folks. Set the buzzer and then stop your six sentences.

I like how you put this into practice here.  This takes work to get in the habit of doing.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura come on Leo..I know you need some new challenges.

It would be so bad ass if you would invite Peter Ralston to a one to one discussion about love.  

Tell him your concerns about that he is just lecturing. Both of you would win from this discussion if it would happen.

If you are sensitive Peter Ralston can keep his face. His image  as a teacher will not be destroyed. 

[CARDOZZO]

22 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura come on Leo..I know you need some new challenges.

It would be so bad ass if you would invite Peter Ralston to a one to one discussion about love.  

Tell him your concerns about that he is just lecturing. Both of you would win from this discussion if it would happen.

If you are sensitive Peter Ralston can keep his face. His image  as a teacher will not be destroyed. 

My personal take is that Ralston is bothered of talking about Love because he doesn't want to appear that he is talking about a "hippie -dippie-new-age" kind of love.

I think he knows deep down what Love IS and he knows it is not a "human" thing, idea, feeling, belief system, paradigm.

I don't think he shares the idea that everything is infinite love either.

He doesn't want to create cosmologies. 

"The universe is one", "Solipsism", "Everything is infinite love".

I don't know, it is just his style.

Edited 14 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

It seems to me that he doesn't want to represent infinity within human paradigms, distinctions and language. 

It is not honorable, truthful or honest. My assessment is that he doesn't want to lie or misrepresent Truth.

He would agonize for years.

This is the kind of seriousness that you need to have to embody Truth.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[OBEler]

@CARDOZZO yes, if there would be a better word for love which fits into Ralstons terminology maybe he would be more open to discuss about it.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

It seems to me that he doesn't want to represent infinity within human paradigms, distinctions and language. 

It is not honorable, truthful or honest. My assessment is that he doesn't want to lie or misrepresent Truth.

He would agonize for years.

This is the kind of seriousness that you need to have to embody Truth.

 

I understand this of him as well.

But the fact remains he IS still trying to teach/communicate something. 

Terms like Love, God etc will always be loaded. ALL words are - no word has inherent meaning. Context defines the word.

Light (weight), light (rays), light (sleeper). All terms are loaded until we strip what context we do not want, and add that which we see fit to attempt to communicate.

I am sure there is a saying about ' Why teach? No one well get it. '

So I think it appears quite arbitrary Ralston won't speak on Love in depth, or with nuance. A full understanding usually creates a compulsion to want to flesh the truth out into some sort of word spatter. Especially from someone like Ralston, who has expressed the meaning of his life is his work. Teaching. I have heard him state this matter of factly in interviews.

I don't want to assume anything here, just pointing to the gap.

Edited 12 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[CARDOZZO]

39 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I understand this of him as well.

But the fact remains he IS still trying to teach/communicate something. 

Terms like Love, God etc will always be loaded. ALL words are - no word has inherent meaning. Context defines the word.

Light (weight), light (rays), light (sleeper). All terms are loaded until we strip what context we do not want, and add that which we see fit to attempt to communicate.

I am sure there is a saying about ' Why teach? No one well get it. '

So I think it appears quite arbitrary Ralston won't speak on Love in depth, or with nuance. A full understanding usually creates a compulsion to want to flesh the truth out into some sort of word spatter. Especially from someone like Ralston, who has expressed the meaning of his life is his work. Teaching. I have heard him state this matter of factly in interviews.

I don't want to assume anything here, just pointing to the gap.

Sure. I'll ask him about Love.

The gap is always there to be closed.

Contemplation and not-knowing are deep existential tools.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Sure. I'll ask him about Love.

Grateful! Appreciated ❤️❤️

I suppose it's not about being right or wrong for me - at this point I am genuinely curious ! Especially as he is getting on in years.

I wonder if his reply will be the typical mutant Ralston tongue lashing 🥹

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, OBEler said:

It would be so bad ass if you would invite Peter Ralston to a one to one discussion about love.

I don't do that because knowing him, it would be not a discussion. He doesn't discuss things.

I am not going to argue with him.

3 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

My assessment is that he doesn't want to lie or misrepresent Truth.

By denying that Infinity is Love, he misrepresents Truth.

Not calling a thing by its proper name is a kind of lie.

So he achieved the very thing he feared.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Once you call a thing what it is, name it. I think it has power. 

You can no longer avoid relating to it. You step into agency. It takes conviction and courage to definitively assert something.

It always gets my respect. Because you have to come to party to back the claim/naming.

Force Ralston to get those balls on the chopping block, hehe 😈

Edited 9 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Terell Kirby]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

By denying that Infinity is Love, he misrepresents Truth.

That’s heartbreaking.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Terell Kirby said:

That’s heartbreaking.

It's a good lesson for you guys. Even the best in the world make mistakes.

[Jowblob]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's a good lesson for you guys. Even the best in the world make mistakes.

I don't know if i should believe you, in all these years you have mentioned many things but did not execute them. That you would write a book and that it was almost finished years ago, including a course how to get god realized,  you planned to do a retreat, and probably many other things that i forgot to mention or think of right now. Now you plan to be on a podcast.

Edited 3 hours ago by Jowblob

[Carl-Richard]

13 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

Now you plan to be on a podcast.

My guy, he has already been on many podcasts. Pretty schiz ngl.

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

I don't know if i should believe you

I am not asking you to believe me. I am telling you to question things deeply.

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, in all these years you have mentioned many things but did not execute them. That you would write a book and that it was almost finished years ago

I have never promised a release date for the book. I always said it would take 5+ years.

I can't write a book and make videos at the same time. It is too mentally exhausting. I put a lot of the book content into the videos and blog to compensate.

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including a course how to get god realized,

Health issues have really slowed me down.

That course will be made, I just can't say when.

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you planned to do a retreat, and probably many other things that i forgot to mention or think of right now. Now you plan to be on a podcast.

I share stuff I am working on in an informal way, but I don't promise any release dates due to health issues and burnout.

I burned myself out making all the videos.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Lyubov]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't do that because knowing him, it would be not a discussion. He doesn't discuss things.

I am not going to argue with him.

I mean in all fairness neither do you and in general this community, including me. Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing, sometimes it’s worth stating your point of view and that’s all. But discussion is import I think and it’s sometimes worth the effort opening up to other’s POV even if we think we got it all figured out. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Lyubov

[Jowblob]

4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

My guy, he has already been on many podcasts. That's pretty schiz ngl.

I was talking about recent years, not his entire history. Amazing how my reply became a clinical assessment.

 

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I am asking you to believe me. Think for yourself.

I have never promised a release date for a book. I always said it would take 5+ years.

Health issues have really slowed me down.

I share stuff I am working on, but I don't promise any release dates due to health issues.

I remembering things differently, but thanks for clarifying

[Carl-Richard]

51 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

Amazing how my reply became a clinical assessment.

Pretty schiz ngl.