Pickup artists would be great nazis

[OBEler]

I had the realization that pickup ideology is similar to Hitlers ideology.

the following shows that "ruthlessness" isn't just a political trait—it's a psychological system that can be rebuilt anywhere by anyone who understands how to weaponize "nature" against "humanity. With the help of Gemini here is the comparison:

The reason why "Pickup Artists" (PUAs) would theoretically fit into the Nazi framework comes down to the structure of their thinking:

1. The "Predator" Mindset

In both ideologies, the world is divided into predators and prey.

The Nazi view: Nations and "races" must conquer or be conquered.

The PUA view: Men must "target" and "game" women.

Both reject the idea of a "win-win" scenario based on equality. They believe someone must always be "on top," and if you aren't the one dominating, you are the one being victimized.

2. The Suppression of Empathy

A core part of PUA training is "outcome independence" and "detachment." You are taught to ignore the emotional signals of the other person to achieve your goal.

This is exactly what Hitler meant by "overcoming the chimera of conscience." To be a "great" Nazi, you had to be able to look at suffering and feel nothing because you believed it was "natural." PUAs practice a smaller, social version of this by treating social interactions as cold, mechanical scripts.

3. The Rejection of Modernity and Equality

Both groups share a deep hatred for liberalism and feminism.

Hitler blamed feminism and the "softening" of men for Germany's decline.

PUAs often blame "feminized society" for their lack of success and want to return to a "traditional" (often imagined) hierarchy where women have no choice but to submit to the "Alpha."

4. The "Secret Knowledge" (The Red Pill)

Both ideologies rely on the idea that the "masses" are being lied to by a shadowy elite (for Hitler, it was the "Jewish press"; for PUAs, it’s "the Matrix" or "Mainstream Media").

They offer their followers a "Red Pill"—a secret truth that explains why their lives aren't perfect. This creates a bond of "us vs. them" and makes the followers feel superior to the "clueless" people around them.

The Danger of the "Alpha" Myth

The "Alpha/Beta" logic is the most direct link. When you start believing that humans have a "biological rank," it is a very short step from saying "I am a superior man" to saying "My group is a superior race."

Scaling Women (Rating by Numbers)

In the PUA (Pickup Artist) scene, women are often referred to as "HB" (Hot Babe) followed by a number from 1 to 10 (e.g., "I approached an HB9").

Dehumanization through Data: This serves a specific psychological purpose: it removes the woman's personality, history, and soul. She becomes a "target" with a value assigned to her.

The Nazi Connection: The Nazis were obsessed with categorizing people into "grades" of value. They used health scores, "racial purity" certificates, and eventually, in the concentration camps, replaced human names with numbers tattooed on skin. Both systems use numbers to silence the conscience—it is easier to manipulate or hurt a "9" or a "number" than a person with a name.

The Alpha/Beta Hierarchy (The "Führer" Principle)

The PUA obsession with being an "Alpha" is almost a mirror image of the Nazi "Führerprinzip" (Leader Principle).

The Alpha/Führer: In both ideologies, the "Alpha" is a man who stands above the law of the "weak." He is entitled to take what he wants because of his perceived biological superiority.

The Betas/The Masses: PUAs view "Beta males" with contempt, seeing them as "providers" who are "genetically programmed" to be losers. Similarly, Hitler viewed the masses as a weak "feminine" element that needed to be dominated by a strong, masculine leader.

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:48 PM by OBEler

[Schizophonia]

Both pickup artists and Nazism stem from paranoid mental structures yes.

Just look at how bizarre pickup artists are most of the time.

That is why communism (even with fairly conservative values) is ultimately the only political opposition to Nazism; because it is the lack of social cohesion that generates paranoid structures.

[Leo Gura]

A weird strech.

[OBEler]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A weird strech.

Why do you think so. the bridge between them isn't the actions, it is the intellectual architecture behind them.

[Raze]

Pickup artists just emulate what men who are successful at seducing women do. You’re just saying women are attracted to nazis.

[OBEler]

57 minutes ago, Raze said:

Pickup artists just emulate what men who are successful at seducing women do. You’re just saying women are attracted to nazis.

What I say is, pickup artists use an ideology based on biological laws to manipulate and exploit others without remorse for their actions 

On the other hand you don't have the sacrifice aspect and other things of Hitlers ideology. Its not that extreme.

[Tenebroso]

I would say men like you are the manipulative one's OP. Men like yourself who moralize the natural instinct of wanting to get better at attracting women are far more dangerous and toxic than the pick up artists. YOU ARE THE NAZI. The funny thing is guys like you come up with self righteous crap and it often turns you are the toxic one. Pick up is outdated anyway, you probably know that but your intention is not to share any real insight but to give yourself a pat on the back as one of the "good guys"..........Who's a good boy, want a cookie?

[OBEler]

@Tenebroso I think there is a lot of projection from you to me going on. What you think about me is wrong. I never see me as a good guy, I still use basic principles of pick up and I find pickup useful to a degree.

Don't make this topic about me, I am far beyond such insecuritys you might have in you and project onto me.

 

Edited Thursday at 01:51 AM by OBEler

[Looks]

yeah, but smagmatizing ppl who barely try to putout approach foids to be straightup nazis? 

 

i am a nazi my self but i don't connect it with approaching. i am very normal when approaching, alone with my thoughts its different.

[Human Mint]

Incels fits better I think

[Leo Gura]

I met many decent pickup guys.

[Miguel1]

This is a bit too much brother. You can practice healthier version of game. Not all game have to be full toxic devilry.