Conformity Examples Mega-Thread

[Raze]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I was more talking about wearing outfits in sports that are sexually suggestive out of conformity.

It defeats the whole purpose of not being viewed as sexual objects most of the time.

I'm not saying girls should wear a niqab:  

 

Wearing a niqab is also conformity, which, I think, dehumanizes girls.

This is also conformity then as you’re expecting them to wear clothing in a range in line with your values and culture. More covering is normal to some and less to others,

[Nemra]

34 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

American exceptionalism 

Some Americans think that they are the most racist country in the world. 

[Raze]

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Raze

[Leo Gura]

Girls in the West need to wear hijabs, and girls in the Middle East need to walk around in yoga pants.

Problem solved.

[integration journey]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Girls in the West need to wear hijabs, and girls in the Middle East need to walk around in yoga pants.

Problem solved.

I don’t why yoga pants are so distracting. 

[Nemra]

@Raze, are they wearing niqabs somewhat for their own choice or because it has religious meaning to them?

I see no problem with girls wearing those outfits for privacy reasons or perhaps some of them like those outfits for aesthetic reasons.

But you can't say to me that they aren't wearing them for religious reasons or to not be shunned by their society most of the time.

For example, Orthodox Christian girls wear a head covering when entering a church. That's conformity.

Edited 3 hours ago by Nemra

[Lila9]

23 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I was more talking about wearing outfits in sports that are sexually suggestive out of conformity.

It defeats the whole purpose of not being viewed as sexual objects most of the time.

I'm not saying girls should wear a niqab:  

Wearing a niqab is also conformity, which, I think, dehumanizes girls.

Yes, it can be conformity, self-objectification, and pornification in order to fit in.

Both the niqab girls and the Western self-objectifying girl fall to the social pressure as women to cater to the male gaze and are centered around male desire rather than authentic self-expression or individuality.

Yet, a woman can dress modestly or more revealing as part of her self-expression and individuality too. 

It is not always conformity.

Revealing the body is not always about wanting to be a sexual object or be objectified (as the body is not merely sexual), and dressing modestly is not always about covering or hiding the body to avoid "tempting" men or to signal moral "purity".

 

[Nemra]

28 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Revealing the body is not always about wanting to be a sexual object or be objectified (as the body is not merely sexual), and dressing modestly is not always about covering or hiding the body to avoid "tempting" men or to signal moral "purity".

Sure, but sports are physically demanding, not about trying to look attractive. The sportswear must be pragmatic.

Looking attractive is the least they should care about.

I was specifically talking about sports.

I'm not trying to be being moralistic here.

Edited 2 hours ago by Nemra

[Terell Kirby]

Think tanks / mastermind groups

[Lila9]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Sure, but sports is about physical activity, not trying to look attractive. The sportswear must be pragmatic.

I was specifically talking about sports.

I'm not trying to be being moralistic here.

I see. The thing is that revealing clothes can be practical as well.

Saggy and modest clothes can be uncomfortable in sports and not as practical too especially in a hot climate.

This can be the equivalent of men training without a shirt when there is warm weather.

[Nemra]

13 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

The thing is that revealing clothes can be practical as well.

Perhaps it can be, but then why aren't they trying not to make it more revealing?

Why aren't men's clothes not as revealing as women's?

Would you like it if men's clothes were as revealing as women's clothes? Wouldn't you get distracted or maybe disgusted?

Do you want to solely watch sports to see who's more attractive?

Edited 2 hours ago by Nemra

[Lila9]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Perhaps it can be, but then why aren't they trying not to make it more revealing?

Why aren't men's clothes not as revealing as women's?

Would you like it if men's clothes were as revealing as women's clothes? Wouldn't you get distracted or maybe disgusted?

I personally don't think that women's sports clothes are that revealing. Wearing a bra and shorts or leggings is comfortable and practical.

They may want to look good and attractive while wearing them, but again, they are part of a culture that judges them for not being attractive enough according to social standards. In a society in which the main thing valued in women is attractiveness, being perceived as not attractive for a woman is like death or invisibility.

Also, men can wear sports clothes and want to look good at the same time. We live in a stage of body image obsession that men take part in too.

If women were wearing thong underwear and a cloth covering only the nipples to the gym, then I would say, yes, this may be too much and unnecessary. But this is not the case for most women wearing sports clothes.

If men's sports clothes were revealing (which they already are, given that men often train without a shirt to showcase their muscles), I wouldn't mind and would not look at them, regardless of how I feel about it, because this is their body and their lives.

I trust that what they are wearing is comfortable enough for them, and if they do it merely to attract girls, this is not my business.