Conformity Examples Mega-Thread

[UnbornTao]

Do the terms comfort and conformity share etymological roots?

[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Feeling forced to do something after you announced you would do it

That could be seen as a matter of keeping one's word. 

[Kid A]

The idea that you should be happy with being single.

People mean well when they say this because it gets a lot harder to get a (healthy) relationship if you're desperate, but I don't think it's very realistic for most people and I think this saying does more harm than good overall. If you crave love, you shouldn't let yourself be gaslit into believing there's something wrong with you. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Kid A

[Jannes]

4 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

That could be seen as a matter of keeping one's word. 

True. I mean when you dont make a promise and people dont rely on it and you still feel forced to not change your plans to fulfill peoples perceived expectation of you. 

[UnbornTao]

12 minutes ago, Jannes said:

True. I mean when you dont make a promise and people dont rely on it and you still feel forced to not change your plans to fulfill peoples perceived expectation of you. 

Ah, got it.

[MuadDib]

35 minutes ago, Vali2003 said:

@MuadDib Of course you could argue that it’s some sort of conformity. What I tried to say with my previous post is that conforming to speaking a language vs. something like acting as though you like redwine even though, in truth, you have to represss your urge to puke every time you take a sip  — and yes there are thousands of people who say they love redwine — are two very different things. So maybe it doesn’t make so much sense to call both ‘conformity.’ 

How do they say they love it? And in what context? 

There is more to language than the face value of words... because all words are meaningless, and to grok another's meaning you have to conform to their expression in the specific context.

1.5% of all wine sales are non-alcoholic. So 98.5% of people love the alcohol component of the overall experience of drinking wine. 
I would wager that of that 1.5% who don't, a significant proportion are alcoholics, kids and asians who can't process aldehydes ... hence the lack of red wine consumption in asian cultures, and the lack of the use of the english word "wine" there as well; people conform to different things, like enjoying a dog bbq, which I'm sure is delicious although I haven't tried.

[UnbornTao]

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Do the terms comfort and conformity share etymological roots?

Apparently not.

[Alexop]

3 hours ago, Vali2003 said:

@Alexop Could be. I think the high heel increases the risk of ankle injuries so I wouldn’t wear them but I don’t doubt they’re comfortable.

That is correct, I would only wear them while running. It is a tradeoff, You save your knees from strong impacts while altering the complex biomechanics of your feet. They are ok in moderation. Like alcohol

[Vali2003]

4 hours ago, MuadDib said:

How do they say they love it? And in what context? 

There is more to language than the face value of words... because all words are meaningless, and to grok another's meaning you have to conform to their expression in the specific context.

1.5% of all wine sales are non-alcoholic. So 98.5% of people love the alcohol component of the overall experience of drinking wine. 
I would wager that of that 1.5% who don't, a significant proportion are alcoholics, kids and asians who can't process aldehydes ... hence the lack of red wine consumption in asian cultures, and the lack of the use of the english word "wine" there as well; people conform to different things, like enjoying a dog bbq, which I'm sure is delicious although I haven't tried.

You’re missing my point. I agree that drinking wine can be conformity. I used it as an example to show that this type of conformity is different from, say, speaking english if you’re from an english-speaking-country. 

[Alexop]

JAPAN 

 

[Leo Gura]

12 hours ago, Vali2003 said:

@mmKay

Actually, running shoes like above is the worst kind of conformity. Everybody wears them now.

 

Lol. I was just looking at this shoe in the store today.

[Rigel]

It’s crazy that they market these atrocities for running & people buy it. It goes against every principle of bio mechanics that are true & work. You literally make yourself more incompetent & crippled every time you put these on.

[Jannes]

2 hours ago, Alexop said:

JAPAN 

 

Wow, thats quite insightful. 

What a case study of stage blue. 

[CARDOZZO]

14 hours ago, Vali2003 said:

@mmKay

Actually, running shoes like above is the worst kind of conformity. Everybody wears them now.

 

Even Wolfram does science using Hoka, because the ruliad runs to infinity.

[Vali2003]

2 hours ago, Rigel said:

It’s crazy that they market these atrocities for running & people buy it. It goes against every principle of bio mechanics that are true & work. You literally make yourself more incompetent & crippled every time you put these on.

The problem is that people already rely on strongly cushioned shoes way too much, which makes their feet relax and their tensegrity structure less ‘bouncy.’ To counteract that loss of bounce and elasticity, they then need shoes which give it to them. 

They create the problem first, and then sell the solution.

Not saying they’re doing it consciously but all shoe companies do this by selling more and more cushioned shoes in general, which only makes the feet degenerate — to a degree that most of you can’t even imagine, actually. 

Cushioned shoes are conformity. They serve no real purpose and do a BUNCH of damage. 

[Leo Gura]

This is a conformist shoe:

https://www.trailspace.com/gear/vibram/fivefingers-classic/

[Vali2003]

How to deal with conformity:

1. Ask yourself which value of yours something serves. If it doesn’t serve any value, discard it.
2. If it does serve a value, ask yourself if it’s the best way to live this value and think of potential alternatives. 
3. Choose the way that best serves your value —independently of what is the conform choice.

[Vali2003]

This is the only non-conformist shoe that exists :

[UnbornTao]

2 hours ago, Rigel said:

It’s crazy that they market these atrocities for running & people buy it. It goes against every principle of bio mechanics that are true & work. You literally make yourself more incompetent & crippled every time you put these on.

@Vali2003 I was wondering what kind of (running shoes) footwear would actually be functional or healthy, and why. I've seen some barefoot shoes, and they look kind of funny to me.

Edited 1 hour ago by UnbornTao

[Vali2003]

@UnbornTao It depends on the state your feet are in. The problem is, if your feet are weak then it would be a bad idea to just start running with barefoot shoes. 

Some people have such strong feet — and the tensegrity network that results from that — that they can run marathons without shoes altogether.

This guy, for example, won the Olympics 1960 barefooted. 

It’s quite a complicated issue, honestly, because the feet are not isolated. Through fascia, they connect to your glutes. However, if this fascial connection is weak, your feet will be weak and you’ll need cushioned shoes which try to ‘replace’ this connection. This only makes the glutes connection weaker over time, though and so all sorts of problems will appear. 

Anyways, sorry for the rant. I’d recommend slowly transitioning to barefoot shoes — there are a couple ones that look decent. If you don’t like them, I’d pick shoes that have a flat sole and low heel. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Vali2003