Conformity Examples Mega-Thread

[Hojo]

Intellectual Cowardice: Sacrificing truth or honest analysis out of fear—often the fear of social retribution, controversy, or offending a particular group.

Intellectual Dishonesty: Deliberately maintaining or advocating for a position you know is false, or avoiding a conclusion you know is true, typically for personal or social advantage .

Self-Censorship: The act of restricting one's own expression or intellectual pursuit to avoid giving offense or causing controversy.

Politically Correct Discourse: Sometimes used to describe language or ideas that are filtered to strictly adhere to norms intended to avoid offence, potentially at the expense of clarity or truth.

Motive over Truth: A situation where the motive is prioritized over the pursuit of objective truth or integrity.

Reading books

Cutting nails/hair

Sucking gut in

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Hojo

[Yimpa]

 

[Nemra]

Relying on AI by deceiving oneself into thinking that they can write like the AI generated responses or that AI is for all purposes instead of trying to make it useful for you.

[UnbornTao]

Now, bring up some positive examples of conformity that you engage in or benefit from, even if unknowingly:

wearing clothes, using the metric system, updating your mobile apps, or checking expiry labels.

Or, hey, using language and participating in cultural customs.

It seems to me we are more comformists than we're willing to admit, both individually and collectively. And, again, that's not necessarily bad - or good, either. It's part of being a social animal, deeply embedded in our biology and psychology.

[ArcticGong]

6 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

It seems to me we are more comformists than we're willing to admit, both individually and collectively. And, again, that's not necessarily bad - or good, either. It's part of being a social animal, deeply embedded in our biology and psychology.

Most types of conformity that supports survival is worth maintaining like using cutlery, hygiene. 

[Schizophonia]

Anything you consider conformity is what you would do out of conformity because you don't like it; it's projection.

We could replace the question with "list of things I don't like," it would amount to the same thing.

[Human Mint]

13 hours ago, Hojo said:

Reading books

Cutting nails/hair

All of your examples were good. But reading books? There's more nuance to it. And cutting nails/hair? Actually healthy, in fact the conformity exists in tribes that let them grow dozens of inches.

[Leo Gura]

You guys need to contemplate deeper: What actually is conformity?

Because you don't have a deep grasp of it. You are just throwing things at the wall.

When does a thing actually become conformity?

Figure out this distinction!

Don't ask, contemplate.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

Conformity is a key ingredient to the functioning of human society.

An extreme example- some of us are less inclined to murder someone in broad daylight because of social consequences. Anything that we do that is influenced by the opinions of the groups we identify with is conformity in a nutshell.

Non conformity may not look like going out and murdering someone in the face of social pushback, but it does start the process of asking why we put value in social acceptance in the first place. To do this- we have to start identifying less with social groups in which we belong to. This is risky depending on what degree we are attached to such groups.

Participating in conformity can be done from a higher plane, but first requires questioning why we do the things we do.

Edited 3 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[Hojo]

@Human Mint the first time someone put a book besides a picture book at me I said fuck this theres not a single picture in this book.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Anything you consider conformity is what you would do out of conformity because you don't like it; it's projection.

We could replace the question with "list of things I don't like," it would amount to the same thing.

Would it be conformity if you like doing it

[Yimpa]

Defending a correct position is conformity 

[Terell Kirby]

1 minute ago, Yimpa said:

Defending a correct position is conformity 

That’s deep

[Human Mint]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When does a thing actually become conformity?

Yeah, good question. I picture something being done for the first time for example by accident, and then gets replicated out of conformity and low consciousness, and that's the heart of it. Then you have thousand of traditions because of that. And the key here is questioning

I see a lot of confusion with participating in social dynamics and conformity. Being social is just baked very deep, but doesn't mean it is conformity. And at the same time they're tied to one another, that's probably why it gets so confusing.

Like, you can pursue social interactions without participating in conformity. 

30 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Human Mint the first time someone put a book besides a picture book at me I said fuck this.

But how do you know if a picture book is more valuable? Does it really replace a traditional book?

[Nemra]

I think that conformity requires not taking the responsibility of making one's own decisions knowingly.

A conformist would care less about having the authority of their own mind.

I think that something becomes conformity when it's treated as normal, given, and not questioned.

[Xonas Pitfall]

Conformity is the absence of self-reflection (consciousness).

A system that does not allow for self-reflection, feedback, or correction is a system that inevitably becomes dogmatic.

A system without self-reflection turns into dogma because reality is infinite.

When you "isolate" yourself from infinity, you do so by blocking self-reflection.

Ego is that isolation. The ego is a miniature god that separates itself from the actual God or infinity in an attempt to control it.

This is why cults, ideologies, and abusive tactics thrive on limiting knowledge, consciousness, expansion, and liberation.

Consciousness, or infinity, is the ultimate truth. The moment you limit consciousness, you diminish it by reducing self-reflection (reducing more consciousness).

A system that suppresses self-reflection then becomes dogmatic, egocentric, limited, conservative, false, and ultimately untrue.

AI is a system that allows for feedback loops, self-reflection, and self-corrective behavior. This is why it is considered "intelligent", it can learn and adapt, unlike basic if-else programs that only handle binary logic (true/false) and can't deal with complex problems or recognize patterns.

The wisest minds are those that embrace and harmonize complexity. The most closed-minded minds are those that only think in black-and-white terms.

This is a global pattern.

Fundamentally, all spirituality boils down to consciousness.

Edited 2 hours ago by Xonas Pitfall

[Hojo]

@Human Mint a picture speaks 1000 words. way easier for the brain to comprehend. The amount of brain power it takes to read a book vs look at a book is probably 1000 times more power to read a book. Probably why ancient peoples words were pictures. Why write 10 pages of descriptions when you can just draw a picture. Anytime you can use the right side of your brain vs the left side its way easier on the brain cause the left side is limitations of the right side and the right side is infinite.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Schizophonia]

47 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Would it be conformity if you like doing it

no

[Terell Kirby]

Conformity vs non conformity-

Is like the difference between buying brand name products for superior quality vs buying it because all your friends have it.

most iPhone users couldn’t tell you what makes iPhone superior to Android other than all the fact all their friends have iPhone

Apple conformity!

[AtmanIsBrahman]

I contemplated conformity. Here are my thoughts:

Conformity is based on a sense of other, so it's baked into survival. We are all conformist, but it's possible to be way less conformist than the average person.

Something becomes conformist when you don't know why you're doing it or where the idea came from. For example, a Christian doesn't really know where all his beliefs about Jesus came from, and if he realized it he wouldn't be a Christian. An antivaxxer usually got their ideas from social media, conservative politicians, and fearmongering. They didn't actually study how vaccines work and come to their own conclusion- that's why it's conformity.

Conformity is closely connected to consciousness, because consicousness allows you to see where ideas come from. The more conscious you are, the less conformist you are. But it's not always a 1:1 correlation-- e.g. Sadhguru is highly conscious but conformist about Hindu beliefs and practices.