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If you think you’re enlightened, go and live with your parents for a week.

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29 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Leo Gura this is an interesting philosophical question though.  What if you were absolutely forced to? How would you turn it into a positive?

These questions that we do not want to face- those are the ones that make or break us.

So its not about this particular question.

I would commit seppuku

Death before dishonor 

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@Natasha Tori MaruI just saw my mother today. We get along fine we argue about stuff but nothing personal,mostly politics. Once I told her to leave me alone she dosent bug me about stuff anymore. She knows Im super sensitive or was super sensitive. After awakening I stop caring how people see me. The drugs showed me I was a hyper empath so I would feel negativity from everyone and hold onto it, and I dont do that anymore.

My dad is not in the picture. I have a step dad who is an asshole but I can see he is an asshole because he desperately wants to be needed by people so I ignore him. He tries to guilt trip me for not contacting him when he never has tried to contact me once. I dont really care what he thinks.

I had bad death anxiety, and hyper empath (I direct peoples feelings toward myself) ,that and it spiral me down into negativity, beyond what I could handle. When I awaken the neuron for death was deleted and I shot so high into vibration that I could see my life changing in real time. I got a house everyone left me alone I got a new union job in a new town and everyone in the town giving me gifts and is being very nice to me. My entire house was furnished by people giving me stuff for free.

If you are a hyper empath its actually terrible to be empathetic, its gotta be I see it i feel it but im just going to leave it alone it has nothing to do with me.

I figured out the easiest way to get along with people is to not say anything. They will automatically start talking and you dont have to say anything but ask questions. When my mom visits I dont say anything and she will talk to herself. Its only awkward if you feel awkward. Awakening stops that feeling now you are friends with everyone.

If you sit in a room with someone there is a tug of war of awkwardness and you will always win once you master this.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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2 minutes ago, JoshB said:

It is a absurd fantasy that'll you'll get along with anyone and everyone just because you are awake. If anything you'll get less along with your family the more awake you are.

I disagree.

I just feel compassion for how unconscious they are. I learned tolerance. Acceptance. 

Discernment over judgement.

The ability to totally disagree with someones ethics, morals and life choices and not judge.

That is not to say one should have them in your life if they are toxic or dangerous. A loving action can be to remove someone from your life, if there is mutual benefit, despite how upsetting this can be. 

But they became like water on telflon as I elevated my consciousness.


It is far easier to trick someone, than to convince them they have been tricked.

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3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Natasha Tori MaruI just saw my mother today. We get along fine we argue about stuff but nothing personal,mostly politics. Once I told her to leave me alone she dosent bug me about stuff anymore. She knows Im super sensitive or was super sensitive. After awakening I stop caring how people see me. The drugs showed me I was a hyper empath so I would feel negativity from everyone and hold onto it, and I dont do that anymore.

My dad is not in the picture. I have a step dad who is an asshole but I can see he is an asshole because he desperately wants to be needed by people so I ignore him. He tries to guilt trip me for not contacting him when he never has tried to contact me once. I dont really care what he thinks.

I had bad death anxiety, and hyper empath (I direct peoples feelings toward myself) ,that and it spiral me down into negativity, beyond what I could handle. When I awaken the neuron for death was deleted and I shot so high into vibration that I could see my life changing in real time. I got a house everyone left me alone I got a new union job in a new town and everyone in the town giving me gifts and is being very nice to me. My entire house was furnished by people giving me stuff for free.

If you are a hyper empath its actually terrible to be empathetic, its gotta be I see it i feel it but im just going to leave it alone it has nothing to do with me.

I figured out the easiest way to get along with people is to not say anything. They will automatically start talking and you dont have to say anything but ask questions. When my mom visits I dont say anything and she will talk to herself.

Thank you for sharing.

You really took control and made something better for yourself.


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@Natasha Tori MaruGod did it I literally just sat there lol. It was forced on me. Once you raise your vibration you dont have to do anything else. All you have to do is raise your happiness. Im still the same person with an illusion of doing something. I didnt do anything differently it just happened to me. I saw vibration changes state in real time.

If you can figure out how to raise your vibration you will see you are the ruler of the universe and you dont have to do anything but sit there and God will do the rest.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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I already do, and it’s chill. Where are my followers 😌

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19 minutes ago, JoshB said:

I would commit seppuku

Death before dishonor 

Hahaha 


 

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32 minutes ago, Hojo said:

You are one space cadet I tell ya - the eyes get me 🤣


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This was a good reminder that i stumbled into the other day, Alan Watts <3

If i shared the full story about my family and my life with them, you'd probably be amazed how I am still around, but at the same time I'm finally learning to master the art... I feel if you master living with your parents while remaining at peace within yourself, that's something grand my friends.

I find what helped me a lot is living in nature with my van or camping / traveling for long periods of time, connecting with the indigenous and living more attuned to the land, building those deep roots, then returning when it feels aligned or natural and being that example. I find our deepest healing cannot occur in the environments that wounded us or made us sick, so its vital to retreat somewhere from time to time and become strong again.

Parents often hold out biggest challenges and triggers, and if we start to master them, all other relationships become so much easier.

I basically have had to be the parent for my parents all my life, they are absolutely spoiled and crazy, but to them I am the crazy one :P

Thank god my parents divorced when i was 13 though, my dad was near impossible to live with, very violent and aggressive, was never taught how to love and had no emotional capacity besides anger, and even tho my mum can be a pain in the ass, its easier to manage and navigate around her, and my sister, i don't even wanna get started on her, its basically like living with angry trolls who endless suppress their shit, complain, argue, use one another and so on... They have no understanding of space or boundaries or needing silence, and i can always see exactly what they need, and i do my best to help, but if i am not being on top of them 24/7 feeding them like feeding old people vitamins or food to a baby, the do not keep up the practices and healthy lifestyle changes, they are in a constant toxic cycle and simply cannot see what is so blindly clear to me.

6 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I am not sure how you experience this - but my sister is a narcissist :( and very materialistic.

I just end up really confused around her now. I don't understand her or relate. It is almost like she hasn't got a fully formed personality yet (at 34 with kids) so has substituted integrity and substance for materialism and attainment.

Yeah my sister is almost 26 now and still in the same mentally or conscious-awareness I had when i was around my teenage years...

Darling your a different species altogether, you weren't built for this world, you were brought in to change it and create a new <3 

Connecting with your Soul Tribe and having that Support is very needed in this day and age.

Blood only makes us related, and sometimes bad roots need to be cut, but family is something different altogether. 

Family is those who are loyal and true to you, who honor and respect you, who can support and hold you in both your darkness and light. 

We aren't really designed to live in these [boxed-in] family structures, we evolved with a community, a tribe, elders, aunties, uncles, circles and all these things are crucial for long term healthy relationships.

That's why people today get separated so easily, and relationships don't last, there is no support, our elders, our trees, our tribe is missing, our greater family is missing, who can hold and support us when shit hits the fan between the smaller dynamics.


I am but a reflection... a mirror... of you... of me... in a cosmic dance ~ of a unified mystery...

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2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I already do, and it’s chill. Where are my followers 😌

They're too shy. 


“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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@Hojo Thanks for sharing your story, although i feel ignoring them is not always the wisest thing, i feel they are put there and part of our lives for a reason.

Sometimes when its the only place we have, we have to learn actually live with them and engage in more healthy ways than just to block them off, because that only means that same lesson or challenge or obstacle we may have learned to shield ourselves from, will appear in another form, until that lesson/character/form finally becomes integrated. This is something I am relearning to master now since i am back home.

A brother shared something beautiful with me the other day around this. When this finally happens, when you finally come in alignment with the greater mastery in all of this, your mother then becomes your sister, and your father becomes your brother, and that hit home for me. 

After all, under the house of God, we are all brothers and sisters. And who knows, maybe our children will be our parents in some way :P


I am but a reflection... a mirror... of you... of me... in a cosmic dance ~ of a unified mystery...

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9 hours ago, Ponder said:

Quote by Ram Dass (rip).

I think this is accurate. If you’re truly ‘free’ there should be no tension between anyone in your life, including your family members. 
 

Open to discuss. Let’s hear what y’all think. 

I know nothing of spirituality and of enlightenment, but this has to be profoundly inaccurate. Who says that if you increase your consciousness you must put up with the bullshit and backwardness of others? You could be the most enlightened person on earth, if your parents are radical fundamentalist Christians, you will have conflict with them. 


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28 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

They're too shy. 

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"If you think you're enlightened, you should spend 2weeks on this forum." 

All your love for humanity will fly out the window. 

Edited by Salvijus

“Love is the whole thing. We are only pieces.” ~Rumi

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It's a problem if your identity isn't in stone. My 24 hours barely change no matter what. I go anywhere. All are family. Parents aren't lepers.

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I'll wait it out in hell, thanks.

Damn, that’s heavy. 
I’ve got one question, and one question only.

Are you conscious? 

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3 hours ago, Salvijus said:

"If you think you're enlightened, you should spend 2weeks on this forum." 

All your love for humanity will fly out the window. 

Lmao so true. Hence why I took like a three day break to actually live lyf ahah 

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3 hours ago, gettoefl said:

 Parents aren't lepers.

I look at mine as a pair of broken people with issues who did the best with what they had. My Dad feels like just another person who makes mistakes, with his own inner demons 🙏

I didn't need to have kids to understand this perspective. Although many do.


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