What would be the ultimate theoretical solution to self deception

[Agrande]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Everyone has a different blindspot where the retard lay

Banger quotable  too true

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Malkom said:

Even not thinking is thinking

No. Not thinking is not thinking.

But all of these so-called enlightened people think. And they think poorly.

Ralston is very enlightened, but he still thinks, "Psychedelics don't raise consciousness" and "Love is just a human emotion".

Ramaji still thinks, "I can map consciousness on a scale from 1 to 1000".

So much for no-mind and not-knowing.

All these motherfuckers think stupid thoughts.

Edited 13 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Agrande]

5 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

An energy/wish/motivation to undeceive oneself, to be pure, to understand, to be unbiased, to be God-like in that way.

ACTED UPON. Not just once - but over, and over, and over, and over again.

I gotta first purify my intentions tbh. Gotta burn through all my karma and cravings till it’s exhausted. Acting upon it would be for me doing long solo retreats with 5meodmt and other psychedelics + meditations on the side 

[Hojo]

You cant stop thinking but you can stop adding to it. Which i call not thinking. The brain automatically thinks we add it. If you stop self reflecting on thought you aren't doing it.

Edited 13 hours ago by Hojo

[Agrande]

23 minutes ago, Malkom said:

Even not thinking is thinking . Even the absence of emotion is an emotion - I feel coldness, I feel alienation, I feel detachment, I feel indifference, I feel stunned, I feel confused, I feel perplexed... This spectrum and its shades of emotion are large. Yes.

I coin a new term:

nondual word play 

Edited 13 hours ago by Agrande

[Hojo]

God made its simulation so easy to navigate that its hard.

[Terell Kirby]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

So much for no-mind and not-knowing.

Both paths are not guaranteed to lead to God I’m realizing. Strange indeed

[Malkom]

1 hour ago, Agrande said:

just one ball of massive infinite potentiality or void

This is a beautiful image. But there is one tiiiiiinny nuance. So it is, and yet it is not (non-duality). And in order to comprehend it, you will have to abandon even it, all ideas of non-duality or duality, or whatever else you have imagined. Because it is all in your mind. In reality, everything will not be like this, but rather it will be something like this - everything you have heard, all 1000... variations and images about it, everything contains THIS and at the same time all these images dissolve in it, and you comprehend ONE, all this and at the same time an absolutely new state and at the same time infinitely familiar and infinitely close and dear. It will be neither this nor this and neither that. It will be such Elegant Simplicity and at the same time Infinite Complexity of Unimaginable Beauty of Endless Greatness of Incredible Fullness of Being. And also...you'll even have to give up this image, and most likely with pain, because the image is beautiful, isn't it? Anyway, don't fill your head with unnecessary information. This can only be understood by yourself, and the most truthful way to convey this to another person is Silence, or, as I do, Just Be, ahaha.

[Malkom]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Ralston is very enlightened, but he still thinks, "Psychedelics don't raise consciousness" and "Love is just a human emotion"

Isn't existence itself the same as love? 

[Malkom]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Ramaji still thinks, "I can map consciousness on a scale from 1 to 1000".

This is interesting. I love riddles when I'm bored. 

[UnbornTao]

Be honest with yourself and call things by their name. And keep going in that direction. Acknowledge something for what it is, not as something else. If you experience blue, don't call it an experience of red - even when doing so goes against your wishes and preconceptions. 

Of course, in practice, the challenge lies in not letting your beliefs, preferences, and so on get in the way of a sober and accurate assessment of things.

[Daniel Balan]

The best cure for self deception is to acknowledge that you are already self deceived this very moment. Is to constantly acknowledge that you could be self deceived in this very moment. To acknowledge that everything you pretend to know, all of your beliefs, all your opinions are the result of self deception. Acknowledge that you are constantly self deceived. 

The moment you think you are not self deceived, it is the moment you are the most self deceived. 

[VioleGrace]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The solution to self-deception is not-knowing.

Do you talk more deeply about that in your episodes about "not knowing".

 

[Yimpa]

God is Infinite

self-deception

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, VioleGrace said:

Do you talk more deeply about that in your episodes about "not knowing".

 

See video: The Power Of Not-Knowing

[Yimpa]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

See video: The Power Of Not-Knowing

 

[Davino]

Actually self-deception is a core aspect of consciousness. That sounds weird, but it is the case. There is a profound link between self-deception and self-limitation, consider that the very mechanism by which limits are created is actually self-deception.

In this light, one stops seeing deception as something human or bad to avoid, but actually as an intrinsic gear in the mind of God that makes this moment be the way it is.

There's nothing crazier than ultimately resolving all deception, that is the realisation of Truth and theoretically even all relative truths.

[ChrisZoZo]

Here is a good one. 
 

1. Studies someone who is highly deluded. (not mental illness.) 

2. realise the exact same mechanisms for them is happening to you and you will NEVER fully drop those mechanisms.

[Twentyfirst]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If only it were so simple.

Life forces you to think, anticipate, plan, predict, decide, model.

Not thinking is not an option. This is one of the stupidities of teachings like Buddhism or nonduality. There is no such thing as not thinking. Everyone who claims not to think is thinking, and thinking poorly.

I agree with you but why do we hear stories that Ramana didn't think for 20 years or something like that?

[Agrande]

Interesting answers thanks guys