What are some things we do today that future generations will see as "savage"?

[BlueOak]

20 hours ago, Elliott said:

Read a recent article somewhere, the industry is talking about the data centers being ridiculously underwater already. Lifespan is estimated to be 10 years on the expensive processors, and the cost was well more than 10x annual revenue. It could come crashing down by itself soon, although Blackrock is buying them up so maybe they know something we don't. 

You have to imagine, electricity cost is substantial for the first one built, now build 1,000 on the same grid, not only will costs go up, but competition does and therefore revenue declines as well.

Interesting. Though I have been corrected just today, actually, apparently we are talking about a common myth.

These data centers are needed to train the AI. To run the AI, a laptop on a battery is fine already.

[Twentyfirst]

Anytime they put something up your dick hole at the doctors. Barbarism at its finest 

[Elliott]

 

[Oeaohoo]

Democracy…

Whatever one thinks of it, I don’t think democracy has much of a future. Regimes with stronger leaders like Russia and China are already taking over the effete and decadent West. The capacity for long-term planning and the absence of the whole circus of distractions created by party politics are two of the most obvious benefits. If the West wants to compete with them, it will have to rise to this challenge.

Political systems tend to alternate in cycles, though. New forms of democracy might reemerge in the distant future.

[Basman]

59 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

Democracy…

Whatever one thinks of it, I don’t think democracy has much of a future. Regimes with stronger leaders like Russia and China are already taking over the effete and decadent West. The capacity for long-term planning and the absence of the whole circus of distractions created by party politics are two of the most obvious benefits. If the West wants to compete with them, it will have to rise to this challenge.

Political systems tend to alternate in cycles, though. New forms of democracy might reemerge in the distant future.

I think your specifically thinking of technocratic centrism.

Regulations on power is absolutely necessary for a healthy society, or you get regimes like that of Russia who's main priority is regime security as opposed to national interest. Regulations on power is in my opinion the de facto selling point of democracy.

[Oeaohoo]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

I think your specifically thinking of technocratic centrism.

Interesting. I haven’t heard this term before but it strikes me as an accurate description of the Western system. Somebody like Tony Blair comes to mind as the embodiment of this.

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Regulations on power is absolutely necessary for a healthy society, or you get regimes like that of Russia who's main priority is regime security as opposed to national interest. Regulations on power is in my opinion the de facto selling point of democracy.

Isn’t that basically the situation in the West too, though? Call me cynical but I don’t believe that any of our politicians care about what is in the national interest.

Anyway, I mustn’t talk about politics. The bottom line is it’s all over and we’re all doomed. Hallelujah!

[Basman]

2 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

Isn’t that basically the situation in the West too, though? Call me cynical but I don’t believe that any of our politicians care about what is in the national interest.

Trump's tariff scheme recently got shut down by congress. Imagine if such checks on power didn't exists and Trump was politically unshackled? Politicians being corrupt is one thing, but being a tyrant is another. Russia is a country where the leader's whims dictates the entire country's fate. For someone like Putin, policy that is bad for the economy doesn't matter because he's "writing history" in a mythical sense. He's not accountable to the state and starts pointless wars. That's unchecked power.

Politicians tend to act more in alignment with national interests, and by extension humanity, when what's best for the country aligns with what is best for their careers. We need better incentives for politicians to be good politicians. Politicians are arguably underpaid relative to the amount of responsibility they carry and how much they are hated, though that's unpopular to say, let alone act on.

[Karmadhi]

1. Industrial scale farming will be seen the same way as the Holocaust is seen by our generation in my opinion. As pure evil.

2. The process of visas and denying entry to people who want to study/work/live in another country. I believe in the long term future open borders will be a thing.

3. Having to pay for health care, education, electricity and other basic necessities. 

4. Lack of an universial unconditional income, the idea "if you want to eat, you have to work".

5. The illegality of psychedelics and the whole stigma around them

Some that came up to my mind

[LoneWonderer]

4 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

1. Industrial scale farming will be seen the same way as the Holocaust is seen by our generation in my opinion. As pure evil.

2. The process of visas and denying entry to people who want to study/work/live in another country. I believe in the long term future open borders will be a thing.

3. Having to pay for health care, education, electricity and other basic necessities. 

4. Lack of an universial unconditional income, the idea "if you want to eat, you have to work".

5. The illegality of psychedelics and the whole stigma around them

Some that came up to my mind

I agree with all your points except for maybe your second point about visas and travel. This one may happen eventually if humanity evolves for another 1000 years uninterrupted.

Edited 13 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Oeaohoo]

Plot twist: there aren’t going to be any future generations because we’re all going to die in a nuclear holocaust.

[lostingenosmaze]

Skateboarding without a helmet

[LoneWonderer]

This. Makes me sad shit like this happens.

Edited 5 hours ago by LoneWonderer