Leo Gura

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3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@lnfinite There isn't any kind of point other than whatever you want.

For me the point is understanding reality. But that isn't anything normative. That's what I personally want. Most people do not want that.

There is no normativity in Awakening. You don't have to do it. It doesn't matter whether you care about it or not. Nothing at all can matter. It does not matter what you do or how you live or of you die or if mankind dies.

NOTHING AT ALL MATTERS.

There is no value, no purpose, no meaning, no point, nobody, no thing.

This post made me want to take a nap..-_-

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Only thing that matters if you enjoy it or not. Simple as that.


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I can say only God satisfied me. 

A saint once said: Only God is enough 

And it's true. Only God is enough, only God scratches that itch. Only God, only God.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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@Davino Oh yeah! And then it's back to if you enjoy it or not.


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@vibv No doubt you'll enjoy God, the point is most people won't enjoy the journey and sacrifice it takes, too high of a price for them, still a bargain though 


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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41 minutes ago, vibv said:

Only thing that matters if you enjoy it or not. Simple as that.

Even that doesn't matter.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Even that doesn't matter.

It does in a higher sense. That’s what Absolute Good means.


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14 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Heres how it went for me the order is a little fuzzy 

This is kind of how it goes but in no specific orders:

No Self realization 

(Enlightenment- ego death)

The mystical wind - (spirit)   Bliss - Divinity- amazing- miraculous- godlike  - mystical 

Infinity - 

(The God Wind - Absolure Infinity - reeling on the ground for momma.  You are Infinity and Infinity is reality. 

As a result of Infinity  - its Consciousness - Consciousness continues to expand encompassing all. Its a dream.  Everything is ideas not material reality. Mind blowing 

Nothingness. You are Absolutely Nothing ..as a result of Infinity

(Devastating a feeling of complete emptiness)

Complete Omniscience  - grasping it all.  Wonderful.   You grasp it all in one go.

God realization - You are God and are dreaming the whole thing.  All of it is yours. Satisfying.  Complete  

Oneness Solpsism)  self and other duality collapses  - it really hits you now.  Yeah you were God. But you're fucking God.  Like that's it. There's nothing outside of you..

 Beautiful but terrifying. 

Ego returns.  Somehow keep your sanity.

I've talked about this before but I think these are a gradual uncovering of different intellectual/doctrinal interpretations of the same experience. The fact that the order is fuzzy also indicates this. The cases where you have a fundamental different quality to them is more akin to the Ramaji map or other maps. If you're stuck in the "limbo" stage (Ramaji 590s or so), it's likely you've really only glimpsed 600s (Self-realization) or maybe 700s (Cosmic consciousness), but less likely proper God consciousness (800s). Jumping to 800s from below 600s is probably really only feasible with high-octane psychedelics like 5-MeO-DMT (I assume you also went through all of this sober), and that's of course also initially temporary.


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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21 minutes ago, vibv said:

It does in a higher sense. That’s what Absolute Good means.

The Absolute Good is that nothing matters!

Anything mattering is not good, it's bad. Only a fool needs things to matter.

Nothing matters -- so be happy.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

The Absolute Good is that nothing matters!

Amything mattering is not good, it's bad.

Define matter. Of course it’s not MATTER, but it’s MEANINGFUL.


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Just now, vibv said:

Define matter. Of course it’s not MATTER, but it’s MEANINGFUL.

No. Nothing is meaningful.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Just now, Leo Gura said:

No. Nothing is meaningful.

It is infinitely meaningful. That’s what LOVE is.


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7 minutes ago, vibv said:

It is infinitely meaningful. That’s what LOVE is.

You've lost the gist. Too much conditions. That's petty human stuff. Absolutely nothing matters and nothing is meaningful so go make a life of meaning for yourself. No such thing as infinitely meaningful. Love is the absence of separation. Meaningful is separation. This is meaningful - that is not. Only the dream needs meaning.

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What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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It is dynamically meaningful.

A Dymeano?

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10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You've lost the gist. Too much conditions. That's petty human stuff. Absolutely nothing matters and nothing is meaningful so go make a life of meaning for yourself. No such thing as infinitely meaningful. Love is the absence of separation. Meaningful is separation. This is meaningful - that is not. Only the dream needs meaning.

Meaning is created and it is Absolute Creation.

Choices are meaningful and God is a Huge Chooser.

He chooses only HIMSELF EVERY SINGLE TIME AND LETS THE REST BURN TO PIECES 🔥 

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I am definitely interested. Personally I would like to work with microdoses, but I think the opportunity of a space like that would help me to crack some code of reality. 

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22 minutes ago, vibv said:

Meaning is created and it is Absolute Creation.

Choices are meaningful and God is a Huge Chooser.

He chooses only HIMSELF EVERY SINGLE TIME AND LETS THE REST BURN TO PIECES 🔥 

There are no creations. There are no choosers. Not even the Absolute. It is choice itself. It is also the rest that burns to pieces. Nothing is being created. It's all immediate.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

There are no creations. There are no choosers. Not even the Absolute. It is choice itself. It is also the rest that burns to pieces. Nothing is being created. It's all immediate.

Your whole perception is literally a creative process that is happening right now.


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3 minutes ago, vibv said:

Your whole perception is literally a creative process that is happening right now.

Yes. Not real. Nothing belongs to me. Absolute appearing as a creative perception process. Ain't happening.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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