Who Wants Actualized Psychedelic Retreats?

[Carl-Richard]

@Inliytened1

Btw, if you are in the limbo state and you take psychedelics, unless it's a teeny tiny microdose, you will either have an insane ego death (granted you drop the moth identity) or you will have a 5150. So think about that if you want to go on a psychedelic retreat (it might become a psych retreat 😝).

Edited 4 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[BlessedLion]

On 10/3/2025 at 8:18 AM, Daniel Balan said:

But I'd never take psychedelics. I'm totally against them. I believe that psychedelics are  a corruption element on my ability to have accurate sense making of reality.

I live by the principle that you can only have an accurate, truthful worldview and sense making of reality by being 101% sober. 

In my eyes there is no way of making accurate sense of the world and reality while you are high on psychedelics. To me psychedelics are like pouring gasoline on the fire that is self deception. 

It is just my take, don't take this personally, do as many psychedelics you want. But I'll never try them. I'm all or nothing. I'm either doing spirituality the most hard core possible in a sober manner, or not at all. 

Im 100% in agreement with you on this. I quit psychedelics long ago, and the path of intensive yoga meditation and study has created a stable sense of God Realization, not a state but a permanent shift. It’s now glaringly clear to me what God is, what I Am, and it’s so simple. I feel like psychedelics blast your nervous system and send you into weird and strange corners of consciousness which cause confusion about the Truth. Many people come back with all sorts of wacky and dark ideas about reality that always have this tinge of fear and darkness to them, rather than love and perfection. Another problem with them is once you start doing them they become your door way to God (or what you think is God) it creates a dependency. Your mind will always compare your weak meditation with being blasted by 5 MEO DMT. Notice how none of the great masters of past of modern times recommend psychedelics as a legitimate path. The people who go all the way just by developing their consciousness have a certain sturdiness, embodiment and aura that people who use psychedelics to awaken simply don’t have- not even close in fact. For example compare Peter Ralston or Yogananda to Aubrey Marcus or anyone else you know who uses 5 MEO to become enlightened- big difference. 
 

I’ve been blessed in life to study with true masters of consciousness, in person, and seeing that makes me know it’s possible in this lifetim, without drugs. So that’s quite final for me. Also once you awaken the subtle energy centers you want to preserve them- I think drugs deplete your energy centers. 
 

But I think it’s cool Leo is going in person, I find in person much more fulfilling these days. I’ve actually been off the forum for a while now as I’ve been in real community, offline, chatting, learning languages, doing yoga, dating. My YouTube channel is fun but teaching yoga in person is much more of a growth path and fulfilling in that I see the fruits of the practice in real time. 
 

All the best to the people who did this though, I hope it works for them, or at least shows them what is possible through a life of devotion, discipline and contemplation. 

[vibv]

7 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes. Not real. Nothing belongs to me. Absolute appearing as a creative perception process. Ain't happening.

It's indistinguishable, aren't you ever content?  

[vibv]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The Absolute Good is that nothing matters!

Anything mattering is not good, it's bad. Only a fool needs things to matter.

Nothing matters -- so be happy.

Geez, this is the issue when talking about this stuff. Language just gives up at some point.

Nothing matters.

Everything matters infinitely.

We create our own meaning.

All those statements are part of Truth.

But that we do create the meaning on this planet is the most significant.
Nothing matters, yeah, but so what. Let's not stop there and go beyond.

My point begin: We have to go beyond it not mattering and MAKE IT MATTER.

Edited 1 hour ago by vibv