Leo Gura

Who Wants Actualized Psychedelic Retreats?

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11 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

There's nothing to remove, so what mechanism? The point is, you're looking for vegetables in a candy shop - and everything is a candy shop. (Again with the analogies.)

I refer to the illusory self in that .. it appeared to be present, then did not. As a deception we generate that acts as a sort of overlay between awareness and object.

But otherwise, I do not think I follow!? 

 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

We should take care not to use rhetoric to fool ourselves into thinking our own level of understanding is higher than it actually is. But hey, that's the human predicament. :P

I don't care what anyone thinks my understanding is. All I care about is to push someone just a little bit over the edge.

I sow seeds because I know that everything will eventually return to me. And it won't be alone, because it will always come back with a great gift. That's how Creation works.

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Finally caught up and did my homework.

What's the homework?

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On 03/10/2025 at 11:10 AM, Leo Gura said:

I am designing a new kind of psychedelic group retreat. It is fully legal and will be held in Las Vegas. The purpose is not for fun but to do serious God-Realization with guidance from me. This is an experimental thing which is still in the planning stages.

Who is interested?

+1

Will participate.

I'll be 24 flying from france, worldwide i would expect at least hundreds of serious people to be signing up.

And since not everything can be explained simply, i'm thinking :

Complementarily to the entry price it might be a good prerequisite for participants to have already worked on some of the upcoming course's material before signing up, for us to prepare deeper, and for you as another layer of the distilling process.
 

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5 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Do you think that opening up the brain and tweaking certain parts could eventually produce enlightenment?

I wasn't talking about figuring out a logical explanation for a process. And what is it that happens?

Nothing needs opening up. Psychedelics already produce higher consciousness than enlightenment.

5 hours ago, Water by the River said:

Your consciousness yes. But that consciousness is not the Absolute, it is a mere appearance.

All consciousness is absolute. All appearance is absolute.

5 hours ago, Water by the River said:

Ant and Ant consciousness arising, Human and human consciousness arising, Alien and Alien consciousness arising. Arising/appearing in THAT. YOU are aware of it. Aware of the Ant, of Leo, of the Alien. 

That which is truly aware, which is truly the Absolute Subject, the Ultimate Looker, never changes. No moving parts.

Selling "no moving parts makes maintenance free" by the River

You keep misunderstanding what Consciousness is through reductionism.

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Is consciousness a property that sentient beings have?

No. Consciousness dreams sentient beings.

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

As far as consciousness goes, what's a dog and what's a human? What is the assertion that consciousness is had by you, as a human self, based on?

And if we expand your argument, why wouldn't taking magnesium or vitamin D bring one closer to (or further from) awakening? Can we see the premise here?

Your position is so silly that you don't even understand that you are more conscious than a dog.

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Do you think God-realization depends on achieving the right chemical soup in the brain?

Absolutely.

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

The point is that brain activity and consciousness are not related, because, with the former, there's nothing to be related to.

They are totally related.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura serious question :

 

During the first retreat with your fellows, will you be mainly communicating through the perspective of sovereign subjectivity (albeit paradoxical) like you performed in the more esoteric Solipsism video (nothing exists but you), or will the communication be less radical (like with most of your videos) ? 

 


Im wondering if you've already been mastering this art, of guiding us while recontextualising the variety of each participant perceptions.


Somehow synergising holistically without the transmission getting too scattered or dilluted as the process goes from {me}, to {me&me}, to {me&many}, in the chaos of a live setting.



In my own experience during in-person retreats, even highly conscious teachers were missing crucial keys to unlock awakening in us.


Their sophisticated protocols were still missing like a holistic dimension of empathy for each student's reality.


Leading us to potentially understanding the protocol objectively, without actually experiencing it subjectively.

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4 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I refer to the illusory self in that .. it appeared to be present, then did not. As a deception we generate that acts as a sort of overlay between awareness and object.

But otherwise, I do not think I follow!? 

It's what's true already. There's nothing standing in the way of presently getting it. But we don't think it's really possible for us to grasp it while doing the groceries - we assume something needs to change and be achieved, like a special circumstance and state. (Since you mentioned the brain in the context of enlightenment, I assume).

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1 hour ago, vibv said:

I don't care what anyone thinks my understanding is. All I care about is to push someone just a little bit over the edge.

I sow seeds because I know that everything will eventually return to me. And it won't be alone, because it will always come back with a great gift. That's how Creation works.

Just consider that one can't possibly get enlightened dishonestly. It's usually quite clear when someone is speaking from an intellectual conclusion. Conflating an experience or state with direct consciousness is a common trap.

1 hour ago, vibv said:

What's the homework?

Replying to past mentions.

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20 minutes ago, BlurryBoi said:

During the first retreat with your fellows, will you be mainly communicating through the perspective of sovereign subjectivity (albeit paradoxical) like you performed in the more esoteric Solipsism video (nothing exists but you), or will the communication be less radical (like with most of your videos) ? 

I will guide you to deconstructing the most core aspects of your worldview so that you can experience various facets of God directly for yourself.

It is not about pushing ideas upon you but helping you deconstruct all human constructs so the chemical is then free to show you the rest.

We will deconstruct time, space, substance, external world, other, birth, death, humanity, nonduality, sanity, etc.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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On 03/10/2025 at 0:13 PM, Leo Gura said:

I am not against workshops and seminars. There is much value in them if done right. Ralston does very good workshops, for example.

I do want to teach more in-person. Making videos all the time gets isolating. Too much time spent online is not good.

@Leo Gura  i could feel this move coming in you work/life. I think that in Video Material you already gave a lot contribution to the Awakening field. Plus the other topics like Politics etc..

Time to do so facilitation in person for the ones who wish to go deep.

 

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Imagine actually making money out of teaching people who they are .😂


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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On 10/10/2025 at 2:30 PM, Someone here said:

Imagine actually making money out of teaching people who they are .😂

They're all suckers! -Tai Lopez

God is everything that you hate

And you ate.

And you ain’t ;) 

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@Yimpa I'm becoming the new forum comedian. watch out baby :x


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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Just now, Someone here said:

@Yimpa I'm becoming the new forum comedian. watch out baby :x

Batter up, you little baby ;)

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23 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Okey-dokey.

:P 


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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

All appearance is absolute.

Um....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy)

The essence of the ring (appearance) is gold (Absolute). But the essence of gold (Absolute) is not the ring (appearance).

"In philosophy (often specifically metaphysics), the absolute,[a] in most common usage, is a perfect, self-sufficient reality that depends upon nothing external to itself.[2] In theology, the term is also used to designate the supreme being or God. While the notion of the absolute varies across traditions and thinkers, it generally signifies something that transcends all forms of limitation, relativity, and contingency"

I guess appearance depends upon "something/nothing/THAT"... Take away appearance, and THAT remains...

The Reality of appearance is "the" Absolute. The Reality of "the" Absolute is not the appearance.

Of course, emptiness is form, and form is emptiness. But appearance, or illusion, is.... not quite the "self-sufficient reality that depends upon nothing external to itself". Because its, um, temporary. Reality = permanent.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You keep misunderstanding what Consciousness is through reductionism.

Or maybe there is some realization which you have not yet had about "that" which watches the whole Ant/Human/Alien/God gig.... Who knows?

But you do you, and I do.... apparently also you. Ain't "we" are having fun. Uhum. ^_^

Btw., in case you guys start a discussion about Solipsism during the gig in the usual forum style, I guess even the Godess doesn't want to miss that.

Something for WbtRs Bucket List for this lifetime: 10 tripping ladies & gentlemen in a nondual boundless state with remaining egos "residual-individuality-arisings" discussing with each other which one is now the One (and only). A pity heretics like poor me probably won't get admitted.

Did you notice that your event is also in the (literally) Selling Water by the River business, as in

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Imagine actually making money out of teaching people who they are .😂

Well, its an honourable endeavour, at least if not approached too seriously - because of the absolutely hilarious nature of the self-contradictory gig if taken too seriously.

So I wish you and all participants good luck in not getting into too serious solipsistic discussions during the event while tripping & selling Water by the River. My recommendation would be: 

Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses by the River

 

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1 hour ago, vibv said:

@UnbornTao I am directly conscious of God.

An "I" conscious of "God"? 

Well, um, some chaps would say that is a "I" and a "conscious of" and "a" "God" too many....

"There is neither Ox nor man" Yaeko Iwasaki’s in Kapleaus, Three Pillars of Zen after her Full Enlightenment.

Strange, hm?

 

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